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Chubby May 2nd, 2007 23:48

Do you think customs would seize this?
 
Hey gals 'n pals.

So yeah, since I've been out of the loop for a while, I find that things have gotten even more strict with airsoft and the government (or whoever's responsible for hating our sport). I'm left now to wonder "Geeze, what's to say they won't take away a scope cover if I order one?".

Anyways, without going through too much of an off tangent, I was wondering if anyone would know if customs would seize something like this if I tried to order one in:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...eburoMN-23.jpg

From what I understand, it's a conversion kit for the TM FAMAS, but with it's hefty price tag, I'm feeling pretty cautious about the whole thing.

Mike

Graham May 3rd, 2007 01:04

why on earth would you want that?!

and I'm not sure I'd try to get it through, might be out quite a bit of money

vatek May 3rd, 2007 01:27

Good luck finding one. The Seburo kits were a very limited run a couple of years back, and it's basically impossible to get one new, or even used.

To answer your question, though, no. If you did manage to locate something that rare, I would not take my chances with customs if I were you. That would be a hell of a thing to lose.

Lisa May 3rd, 2007 02:08

I'd say it would get seized.

Aquamarine May 3rd, 2007 02:50

I shipped three of those back to Canada, each were seized. I marked them as different items during each shipment
1: Plastic Toy
2: Toy replica
3: Cartoon Toy

None made it back, sorry :(

Chubby May 3rd, 2007 03:04

Damn...

And this is why airsoft forums exist kids :P That's a shame, I was curious about it but I guess early disappointment is a lot better than future disappointment. Heh well if they weren't so rare, I probably would have saved up and picked one up.

All said and done, they do like pretty cool though.

philstructo May 3rd, 2007 03:12

I agree that looks cool

I wont comment on customs there kinda weird =P

Aquamarine May 3rd, 2007 03:41

For what it's worth, it looks good but is shitty resin construction. You're better off making your own out of fiber-glass, at least it'll hold up if you drop it on the ground.

The Saint May 3rd, 2007 10:27

Custom can seize that, they can seize anything they want to, the question is if they can make it stick.

I'd say you'd have a good chance of successfully appealing a seizure. Assuming you have competent representation, anyways. CBSA seize airsoft on the ground that they are replica firearms, and past appeals at CITT were thrown out based on the items' in questions' resemblence to real firearms. Seburo doesn't even exist as a company, much less as real steel.

Probably isn't worth the gamble, though.

Aquamarine May 3rd, 2007 10:53

Yepper, Customs are (at present) nothing more than legalized pirates in my opinion. I had ordered a book from the USA called 'Louis Riel" by a gent named Chester Brown. It was seized at the border and not released until I called and spend about two hours worth of long distance telephone tag.

It was held as being suspicious in nature..

EXCUSE ME!? HOW IN THE FUCK IS A HISTORY BOOK ABOUT CANADA SUSPICIOUS?!?!?

Last time I vote Liberal.

kalnaren May 3rd, 2007 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 464780)
Last time I vote Liberal.

Yep, and now that we have conservativers, your legalised pirates carry guns :p

Brian McIlmoyle May 3rd, 2007 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 464780)
Yepper, Customs are (at present) nothing more than legalized pirates in my opinion. I had ordered a book from the USA called 'Louis Riel" by a gent named Chester Brown. It was seized at the border and not released until I called and spend about two hours worth of long distance telephone tag.

It was held as being suspicious in nature..

EXCUSE ME!? HOW IN THE FUCK IS A HISTORY BOOK ABOUT CANADA SUSPICIOUS?!?!?

Last time I vote Liberal.


Well Louis Riel was a "home grown Terrorist" at least in the eyes of the government at that time... can't be too careful.. you could have been subverted by Metis propaganda

wey ferro May 3rd, 2007 12:32

hopefully they seize it so no one in canada owns it.

Aquamarine May 3rd, 2007 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 464826)
Well Louis Riel was a "home grown Terrorist" at least in the eyes of the government at that time... can't be too careful.. you could have been subverted by Metis propaganda

Could have been subverted??? Hell, I'm a card carrying Métis myself! Louis Riel is (was) my great great great great great (X 5) Uncle, hence why I bought the book to begin with!

Fucking customs.

Ridiculous132 May 3rd, 2007 17:06

Well duh, they'll seize that, it's black and evil.

Kids these days...









Stupid customs

Moderate May 3rd, 2007 21:08

Was just browsing around, and I was wondering if resin models (not airsoft, non functioning) could get past customs?

i.e. This

http://www.newmoonprops.com/BSGPistol.JPG
http://www.newmoonprops.com/BSG75Fin.JPG (too big for this page)
There is also a completed model, unpainted is $40, painted is $65 (US I assume). Just as a collectible/display piece, because I really enjoy the BSG series :)

or higher quality:

http://www.scifimodels.com/bsgbs2.html

http://www.scifimodels.com/bsgb.html

Moz May 3rd, 2007 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by moderatesniper (Post 465057)
Was just browsing around, and I was wondering if resin models (not airsoft, non functioning) could get past customs?

i.e. This

http://www.newmoonprops.com/BSGPistol.JPG

There is also a completed model, both are $40 (US I assume). Just as a collectible/display piece, because I really enjoy the BSG series :)

fucking awesome.

Moderate May 3rd, 2007 22:03

I would assume that they would make it through, because it's not a replica of a real gun and can't fire anything...it's all hydrocarbon secretion of many plants in the shape of a futuristic gun. But I would prefer someone telling me that it can make it through (painted?)

Styrak May 3rd, 2007 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by moderatesniper (Post 465057)
Was just browsing around, and I was wondering if resin models (not airsoft, non functioning) could get past customs?

i.e. This

http://www.newmoonprops.com/BSGPistol.JPG
http://www.newmoonprops.com/BSG75Fin.JPG (too big for this page)
There is also a completed model, unpainted is $40, painted is $65 (US I assume). Just as a collectible/display piece, because I really enjoy the BSG series :)

No offense, but that one and the painted one look like shit. They're not very good looking "replicas".

Lakonian May 3rd, 2007 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 465106)
No offense, but that one and the painted one look like shit. They're not very good looking "replicas".

cause it's resin... and whoever painted it, wasn't very skilled.

Moderate May 3rd, 2007 23:17

The only other replicas pop up on ebay now and again for $200, these are cheap guns (as mentioned on the site) and not "hero weapons". There are many replicas out there, but I can settle for this one (I doubt I would buy it anytime soon, and by the time I do I may try for a better one).

That aside, will any of the non-functioning prop weapons (resin?) get past customs?

EDIT: If I did end up buying from this site, I'd get the original resin because the painted one does look awful. The paint on the grip has empty spots, and is getting on the reciever, etc.

Capt. T/O May 7th, 2007 14:48

functionality of a gun is not at issue
if it looks to resemble a gun, then it may be called a replica firearm and be seized.
it does not have to shoot anything.

Styrak May 7th, 2007 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. T/O (Post 466736)
functionality of a gun is not at issue
if it looks to resemble a gun, then it may be called a replica firearm and be seized.
it does not have to shoot anything.

Doesn't it have to replicate or resemble a production firearm to be considered a replica?

Steve_U1S May 8th, 2007 18:55

It was a while back, but I got the SciFi Models miniseries-version kit, and later, a Matsucorp season 1 kit, and neither was seized... Although, in hindsight, I may have gotten very lucky on both occasions.
Matsucorp's version has a base revolver (like the actual ones) which he cast using transparent resin upon learning that it would be coming into Canada.
The SciFi Models version had just a grip/partial frame (I had to build a surrogate revolver to support and fill the clamshell vents properly), so that may have helped.

JacoNB May 13th, 2007 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by moderatesniper (Post 465057)
Was just browsing around, and I was wondering if resin models (not airsoft, non functioning) could get past customs?

i.e. This



I got one of those things from a replica prop forum (except mine was molded and rotocast in black resin (no bubbles/cracks/warps) etc. Mine came from somewhere in the States, no problems with Canada customs.

(and it's purty, too, by the way.) lol

I could've simply been lucky, though.


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