Just shot my Glock17 Metal from buyairsoft
 

This thing is crazy. Seems quite powerful, and when I shot it outside my door, the sound echoed in the street. Nice blowback action and the metal slide contributes to a really nice cycle sound. I'll get back to you once I can test it a little more. Such as accuracy/range etc. Can't right now because it's friggin cold outside, and people are asleep right now inside.

rofl you shot out your door... probably not the best idea...

Heard many good things about the HFC G17. I personally wanted to own one myself but because of the HFC trademark, I didn't get it. I instead got the KWA G19 which was the greatest investment for a GBB (for glock lovers). I have a nice lenghthy review on it at A&A, check it out if you're interested in other good glocks. I can probably say HFC and KWA (or KSC) are comparible in durability but others may say differently.

finally got ur g17 from buyairsoft? cool to ear the product seems nice at first look! cant wait to ear more.

"Finally?" It arrived less than 48 hours after I entered my info online!

Maybe you're thinking of the other thread I had? Where I ordered a propane adapter on Feb 5th and it arrived today (13th).

It was night and there was no one around.

regardless of night time or not, #1 rule in airsoft is to never fire in public, not even your backyard. Basement for plinkering around or on a designated airsoft field should be the only time you can shoot. Sorry to be blunt but our sport is diminishing as it is, it doesn't help to have more cases of airsoft guns in public all over the news. just my 2 cents

Question: why not in your backyard? For me, both my neighbors know me well, and wouldn't really think anything of it.

i agree, if the know u and what ur doing there's nothing wrong there.

it the simple matter that you can't control who sees you outside ant anytime and what they will interpret from you actions. in you basement you have a higher degree of control for who sees you. most of the items in this sport are real enough that a police officer will shoot you, if he sees you with it in any threating manner, and considering that this sport attracts a lot more negative publicity its better to keep this sport out of the spotlight. so needless to say its in both your best interest not to use it anywhere but your basement or the feild. after all we want our sport to have a good reception if it ever does come into the lime light.

edit: to Naerah -> I thought you guys would have greater care for this considering recent events in and around your area?

well said :)

I disagree, as do most of the members on this forum.

Why even risk it? keep them to your basement, and the playing feild.


not worth more bad controversy

i was lookin at a glock from there myself

Guys you are both very new to this (both joined in 2007), many of us have been around long enough to see the countless reports of people shooting airsoft/bb guns/cap guns in their backyards/property/in the street and some unknowing person calling the cops and having the nice fellas from the local SWAT team show up...so play it safe and don't take them outside unless they are in an appropriate case. I don't want to see anyone shot or arrested for having airsoft, no matter who they are or what they were doing with it. Just don't be morons and use them in public...

well i mostly agree, i was thinking about a house with neightboor only on the side and a wood behind like where one of my GF friend live. if i call the polices, it takes at least 30min to an hour before they arrive.. and with the kind of neightboor that always wanna borrow ur gun to try it... so i admit i didnt tough about an house in a city. wich in this case it was dumb yeah.

I DO realize that you shouldn't be waving around and shooting it in public. It's just a shame that the only place I can really use it is at a game, which will start up in summer I suppose. (*Edit*: Never been to one) That and my basement, which isn't that big to play around in. :(

The I guess you;ll just have to wait. it will make your first game all the better

That is unfortunately true for the majority of us. The longest section of my apartment is 23ft, which is a huge improvement over my last place of 15ft and roommates.

Well I suppose my basement isn't that bad. About 10-15m.

Anywho, is a GBB handgun appropriate for a primary? Can it be used effectively in a game? Does anyone use a handgun as a primary?

As a primary? Maybe in CQB, but not in an outdoors arena.

yup!what if a cop drove down ur alley??

GBBs are only good in CQB, and though I'm not from around your area I haven't heard of any CQB places. Pleas read the FAQ guys ... be responsible ..this is stuff we tell under-aged folks that come in all the time.

I know stalker has a comment to prove you wrong on that one!

I have seen his G19 in action.

I've seen someone run around with a M11 and just one mag. He took his shots very carefully. Another time, there was a guy with just a springer. He has however airsofted longer than many of us. Using only a GBB is more of a handicap than a complete death sentence, it's really up to how good you are. That's assuming your playing field isn't flat as Sasketchewan as far as the eye can see.

Oh, wait.

Even then..

Do you really want to take the chance and be charge as some people have been all around canada, because they are playing with they friends in some ( supposed own forested land )

I don't think you want to try that !

And quebec right now is worse than the rest of canada about airsoft ! So be reponsible and go play on Airsoft field or airsoft organised game with ATF or Felix tactik or werewolf teams. They are many games in your area.

JF

Do you mean read the FAQ about using a handgun as a primary? Cause I don't really see anything.

The only safe place to discharge an airsoft gun is at a field, or at the top of your wrap around staircase as a hundred men of Sosa's hit-squad assault your empire.

I think he was refering to the shooting in you backyard statment styrak.

but anyways,... using a GBB in any situation can be a handycap, especialy in full auto games. you will not have the long range accuracy but I've seen gbbs that have shot farther than some AEGs, and a lot of GBBs that hurt more than aegs.

thats true. Some of the newer model TM GBBs shoot harder and farther then full sized stock AEGs. On the other hand, some low end GBBs, your better with a BB and a straw.

lol too true, anyone see my d-egale doorstop?

Ha! Have you seen the late SCWII/SCWIII WAs? Farrkkk... They're like mini laser canons... O_o;; and I'm only using 4.3s! I can only imagine the accuracy/power of a "full size"...

Well fine, but I already said that I realize that's not the best idea.

Its that narrow, sadistic mindset that will do the diminishing around here. Mind you, I do agree with you on the point of airsoft in public.

some of you guys take yourselves way too seriously. I've shot a bb gun in my back yard plenty of times. Granted I had a 5' tall privacy fence around my yard, but still, the way some people on here talk you'd swear every would call the cops if you lean over and fart. He shot a handgun out the door it's not like he went and stood in his front yard in broad daylight shooting off a gun.

Ahaha, we had a new guy come out to a game just recently with his crappy tire soft air...it was bust obviously but he had tried to fix it himself....and guess what, my loading tube shot further....no joke...

I've also shot an ACTUAL pellet gun in my backyard, many times. Neighbors just go, what's that, oh.

Now, it doesn't look as real as an airsoft, but nevertheless, it looks like it could be a .22 and it actually destroys stuff/could pierce you badly.

*Edit*: not trying to prove anything. Just stating facts.

i JUST been pointed to teams in my area, and exept my father 1km/1km land in the mountain, i have nowhere to play. (and dont wory lol i have no backyard).
thx for naming some

Then again, there have been cases of people simply being seen with a crosman getting the full ETF shabang.

A gun is a GUN.....
 

Dude you said it yourself, it may not look as real as airsoft(pellet gun) but your talking airsoft.... Well I tell you if I sat in my backyard with my TM G26 GBB firing shots... well it makes enough noise and resembles the real thing(after upgrades) enough to have cops callled trust me. Lets just be smart about this, in my 30 some odd years alive I've shot many firearms, and I treat each and every gun whether it airsoft or real steel with the same respect and saftey precautions. Thinking this way you would never have stuck the barrel of that gun out the door, just my 0.02$. Take care.

Speaks

does anybody know if that glock would be better off with .2 bbs or .25?

I think the problem is people not taking airsoft guns seriously enough. As with all pellet/airsoft/replica firearms, they should be treated with the same respect as real firearms, kept out of sight from the general public, and not be treated as toys. They are all capable of scaring the shit out of someone who is not into this sport. Most people don't like guns being pointed anywhere near their neighborhoods wether they are real or not doesn't matter to someone who sees one being pointed out a doorway or window. The bottom line is we have enough negative publicity as it is, and it's not going to change untill people start respecting the tools of the trade.

toy guns or not, you can never take a gun to seriously.

just FYI .

in most places in canada it is ILLEGAL to discarge any type of firearm in the citty. this means firearms,bb guns, and airsoft.

but what everyone is trying to say. we all know you just got your first gun and REALY want to try it out... see if it works... i know the feeling BUT.. EVEN IF YOU KNOW YOUR NEGBORS AND BEST OF FRIENDS WITH THEM. dosent matter .. you are shooting a gun in your backyard and what if someone was walking there dog by your house and heare the shots or worse yet you don't see someone in the next yard and a rebound BB hits them in the EYE and calls the police tells them they herd gunshots... then your F%$ked.. your gun gets taken from you. you get fines and maby criminal charges for possesion and discharge of a firearm in citty limmits or possestion of a resticted wepon.

get the idea.. DON'T BE STUPID. keep the gun's inside and locked away untill it's game time. then and only then pull them out to test them.

wow...

I soot in my back yard all the time i rip throu so many bbs a day and im damn acurate now

Thats not gunna go over well...

I agree whole-heartedly. To anyone who isn't familiar with airsoft, and even to some who are, an airsoft gun from any distance can be mistaken for the real thing. If you want to test your new gun out, do it in your basement or in a secluded part of your own home, away from windows.

Treat airsoft guns just like real steel. Would you discharge a real Glock out your door like that?

Someone please take this guys guns away-please.

... and replace with a dictionary and book on English grammar....

Umm what about firing ranges?
Posession of a a restricted firearm? HUNH?
A I'm pretty sure it is not illegal to shoot a pellet gun in the city.
No offense, but your argument is a little thin.

No offense, but I'm not going to treat an airsoft gun like real steel. If that was the case, I would NEVER fire it ANYWHERE except at a range or during the appropriate times (self-defense, etc). I'm not going to NOT fire my airsoft gun in my basement or wherever. And I'm not going to keep it in a case and only take it out when I get to a range(?!) or a game.

How about you go into your local police station and ask them. You being "pretty sure" doesn't mean diddy squat as far as the law is concerned. A firing range is a designated place to do so, has safety regulations in place, and everyone in the range is aware of the dangers and has been trained in the safe operation of firearms.

You should treat your guns as real steel in public, because everybody else not related to airsoft certainly will if they see you. Do whatever you want out of public view.

But if you don't believe me, go ahead and wave it around in public. You'll find yourself with 10 warning shots in your back.

But you're from Nanaimo....

how bout doing that stuff when U go out in public! or u can tote around ur gun like a tool and get all of airsoft banned! i think i will treat it as a real firearm! my club, if ur caught outside not at paintball wilderness u get a life time bann

Most municipalities in Ontario have bans against discharging anything that fires a projectile inside city limits, except in a designated place ( such as a range)
this includes, pellet guns, bb guns. sling shots, bows, cross bows.. even throwing stones... its a by-law infraction.. subject to fines.

not sure if it is the same in SK

It's not like I'm going to do that though.

Uh.. I vote for a ban right now.

Dude, you've proven you're an irresponsible gun owner.. and it seems like you're kinda proud of it.

Guns should be held with the highest regard, and so should the safety percautions attached to them. If you are not able to follow simple rules, then I don't see why you should be allowed to own a ASG.

How is only firing a real gun at the appropriate times bad?
And I'm just saying that I'm going to do things like shoot in my basement. I meant that I'm going to take it out and use it in my basement, not just leave it sit.

Styrak: It was your initial statement about firing it out your door that sparked this whole thing. If your basement is set up safely and no-one can see you I'm sure you won't have a problem. Wether it's legal to do so is a different story. IMO If you take safety seriously and respect the sport no-one here is going to give you a hard time.

Yeah well I do. Maybe it's just the first thing I said, and then people picking things out of my posts, that makes it sound bad.

If people could see me in my basement they are the ones with issues.. LOL
Damn perverts, trying to catch a peak

ranges are made for safe discarge of firearms.
the are there for that.
now read the law before you start to shoot that gun in public again

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/info_for-r.../airguns_e.asp

if you read that link you will see your gun is a prohibited device and will be treated the same as a real firearm. in witch if you are found with such a device in public.... even if you are in your backyard... you are not alowed to use it..
and to reply to your other question .. not all pelet guns are baned in the citty ... you are right about that but it must meat standers that the police have deemed as not resticted.

quote
"These are air guns that are not powerful enough to be classified as firearms and that do not resemble a real firearm closely enough to be considered a replica. An example would be a harmless air gun made out of clear plastic or a device that is obviously a child’s toy. "


as for airsoft falles into this

quote
" 3. Air guns that are replica firearms

These are air guns that are not powerful enough to cause serious injury or death, but that were designed to resemble a real firearm with near precision. Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices. "\


also here is a bi law for the citty of st jhons NS
http://www.stjohns.ca/ByLaws.nsf/wByLawNum/1316
quote
" 3. Except as hereinafter provided it shall be unlawful for any person to fire or discharge an airgun in the City of St. John's. "

so it depends on your citty laws

i know for a fact you can't discarge a BB gun in montreal even in your backyard.

so next time you think that it's ok to just shoot your new AEG or GBB in your backyard you might be doing something stupid

just becuse you dident know that the law is there dosent give you the right to do something stupid.

now...

please for your own safety don't do that...
your just asking for something bad happen to you..... and what some people are trying to tell you is that you could hurt someone or hurt yourself.. and we don't want to see it happen to you or anyone else..

just try and use your brain before you act and say to yourself ... himm is this a good idea?

As a now owner of many real steel guns, and airsoft, keep them locked up unless they are in propper use! Listen to what these people are saying, do not respond with your "But what ifs" or any other argument because you think you know the law. Always keep it in a case, even in your room, closet, basement, under transport espicially. Because for any reason if you have a police visiting your property, and they come accross it unsecured anywhere, your in trouble. They would not deal this exact same reaction if it was secured in a case. Dont be ignorant, just follow what people tell you, as they are way more experienced.

Three words... "Company" "Passer by"

I just order mine last sunday. been 2 day now... and I didn't receive it.
So hope it will be send before next week, its spring break and I want to test it.
I may post my review on it!

Actually, all of your posts, as a whole, illustrate to me, that you are an asshat. Possibly just as or (but probably not) as bad as Mr. "im dam acurate now". You would do well to unfuck yourself. Shooting guns out your door, pellet or not, is unsat.

In Toronto, using any projectile slingers in the city that aren't on fields or ranges, etc. Is illegal. This of course can be taken with a grain of salt, but using it outdoors in full public view is idiotic.

[QUOTE=Styrak;423910]Question: why not in your backyard? For me, both my neighbors know me well, and wouldn't really think anything of it.[/QUO
I shoot in my back yard all the time, and no one ever thinks anything of it. Then again, I live out in the country, but still...

wow, no kidding with the necro... i was about to say, "metal glock 17 from buyairsoft!?!?!"..

zzzzzzz....

Nobody ever brings back a useful thread. This one was fucking limping from the get go. It still hasn't had enough time to heal...

Holy necropost. And my crappy thread even. Oh how I was so young and stupid on the subject on airsoft guns...

So... nothing's new then...?

:p

Interwebs are fun.

Naw, that wasn't a rip on you Styrak. I just meant things got out of hand and went WAY too far for a straightforward thread.

And yeh. Nothing to see here. I don't even have an avatar. How boring.