FELIX TACTIK - POOL - Custom BDU and camos
 

Pour aider nos développements actuels, j'aimerais votre avis concernant nos camouflages NX. Lequel aimeriez vous avoir en premier?
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To help our current developments, I would like to get your opinion concerning our NX patterns. Witch one would you like to get first?

http://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/temp/swatch_NX.jpg

I picked highland, although I'm interested in Gaia as well. It would also be interesting to see how vampire actually performs at night.

I don't know why but I really like Highland too. Vampire and Sandstorm are definitely looking great.

Ok, added the NX swatch on top.

very curious to see Vampire, as I've said before :D

I'm torn between the Gaia and the Highland, but went with the Highland Because it's a new twist. Really interested in getting my hands a set of these if they're in my price range, and size also, since I'm a little bigger than the average guy.

Well, the vampire was initialy developed for low light environments. The blend of dark gray, gray and dark red with little blue splotches are made to adapt to changing light source, like a dark alley in a city, as well as NV spotting.

It's a really hard one to get the proper mix of colors. Printing with so subtil dark colors octaves is a challenge.

I like Terracat, too. But chose Highland since we'll likely see some greenery here in the spring.

Well, I find it odd that no one picked the TerraCat yet. Almost all emails and PMs that I received are about that one. Maybe when more people will logon...

I would have chosen terracat first, but it looks similar to Multicam to me, and I already have some MC BDU. (got them from you, and they're great, I might add.)

Well, I cannot hide the fact that the TerraCat NX is there to "steal" some MC market share. The color palette is almost the same but with some twists. Beside, my NX systeme is made to be modular... try to imagine a terraCat NX1Jacket, Sandstorm NX2 pants and CP Armor rep. in Concrete N2.

In time, I will make a camo "Mixer" on our new website. With background changer too. I'm working on that.

I want them all hehe, but specifically highland.

TerraCat is awsome...though, I would go for a little bit more green in it...not much, just a bit. Same size splotch, just a bit more intense.

though, highland is nice, Im totally feeling the arid camo lately, be perfect if you had an intermediate step between terracat and highland.

I like multicam, but at times i think it needs more green to it. Terracat fits nice. Id defiantly consider it as my next BDU set.

the last 3 are neat also...though I dont care for camo at night, since color is lost anyways...but for urban, I dig it. When I see someone playing with ACU on, I think to myself "shit, I could do that, just let me tape newspaper all over my current BDU" atleast this looks upban and not like your running around with the business section on your back.

A good one Droc, Taping newspaper... funny. I'll take not of your TerraCat/Highland blend. Thanks for the comments!

I thought a newspaper was black and white and "red" all over? hahaha

Terracat all the way Walter. Although, a bit more green like Droc said would be good.

I think people are choosing the greener patterns first because of when they'll be released. For the most part we've found that primarily tan and brown patterns such as Multicam and Terracat have nothing to blend in with during the lush summer months, and only become truly effective in the autumn when everything begins changing to those colors. Leafless bushes and trees combined with dead yellow grasses, with the occasional holdout splotch of green, make for a perfect environment for either pattern.

I chose Gaia first because I think it would work best in central Manitoba summer, when the first pattern is set for release. Highland is very nice as well but I feel it's more suited to rockier areas where you're more likely to encounter heavier ground-level shades of brown and grey such as the Canadian Shield or the Rockies. That's not to say we don't have that out here but primarily the prairies are grassland and deciduous woods and I get the impression Highland may work better in coniferous environments.

I'd love to try the Vampire pattern for CQB and outdoor night games.

Thanks Gryphon, I love thoses detailed posting. I'll go back to the dev lab an see what I can do with the TerraCat with a little more green in it.

Gaia Looks Cool

Well I tried what Droc said... A blend between HIGHLAND and TERRACAT. I had to do some tweak, but It quite acceptable for a sim. Anyway, here's the new MUDCAT. I put the 2 contenders aside... Tell me what you think.
http://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/...r_mudcat01.jpg
http://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/...r_mudcat02.jpg
http://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/...terracat01.jpg
http://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/...terracat02.jpg
http://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/...highland01.jpg
http://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/...highland02.jpg

I think that stuff is great it looks like its mud and stuff its so real i give it a thumbs up

Easier to compare that way...
http://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/...l_highland.jpghttp://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/...all_mudcat.jpghttp://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/...l_terracat.jpg

It looks fantastic, I'm excited to see how it works out in the field. Once the website reopens I'll have to look into it.

Mudcat is awsome looking.

MUDCAT has gotten my attention, I would have voted for that one instead of highlands.

mudcat seems too much like higland to me, maybe a little less green and slightly more tan

highland, sandstorm or vampire .i voted for highland, as I believe it'd work the best in our playing areas

The Mudcat is an interesting blend of the two, but I'm still a firm believer that camouflage is a lot like guns - you can't get one to do everything. As there are assault rifles, sniper rifles, pistols, etc. camouflage has to be tailored not just to the environment but to the season, because a Manitoba summer looks absolutely nothing like a Manitoba autumn.

Given my experiences in the bush I find that we play in deciduous areas far into the fall season and encounter a significant amount of browns, yellows, and tans, with some areas containing large crops of birch trees with their signature white bark. Personally I feel the Terracat pattern is perfect for this condition as it is, and while the Mudcat does have a good look to it I feel it would be a bit too time-specific in its application. Just as the leaves are turning and beginning to fall you still have green in the bush, but this part of the season passes relatively quickly so theoretically you'd be transitioning from something like Gaia or Highland, to Mudcat, to Terracat in a short period of time, so the cost to "time worn" ratio would be a lot higher than the others. I would prefer to go straight from Gaia/Highland to Terracat myself and avoid an intermediary.

This picture of me at the MAA's FNG Day in October (?) 2006 highlights what our typical autumn looks like, as well as the obvious disadvantage of having a camouflage not tailored to the season. Cool pattern though, eh?

http://www.mts.net/~molly160/149_4997.JPG

This is of course my personal opinion only, and applicable only to the areas that *I* play in. Others may find Mudcat would work not as an intermediary but as a primary pattern for their fields. However opinions were solicited, so there's mine. :)

Here... I just put 3 CP Armor on the picture. TerraCat prove to be the most effective.
http://www.felixtactik.prelogik.com/temp/test01a.jpg

Cool, just as I suspected. I would really like to go with Gaia for spring/summer, and Terracat for autumn. At the moment my team uses tigerstripe for autumn because it is available locally and works very well.

This also illustrates readily why the first release pattern should NOT be something that is effective mainly during autumn - a season which is more than a half year away - and explains why Gaia and Highland are leading the poll. I'm a little disappointed that Gaia isn't quite neck and neck but I suppose people have already got their CADPATs if they need the lush greens and are yearning for something different.

Unfortunately I suspect most people are voting on the poll based on whatever looks cool rather than viewing it practically in terms of what would be effective at their play fields, and when. I suppose for the moment it's more of a fashion show for a lot of people.

Walter, have you got any estimated price range for a BDU set at all? I'm sure that's been asked and I'm not looking for firm figures, but do you know if it will be like $50 per piece or more like $100 per piece? Or...?

Well, I'm not here to judge if people will get my gears for a "cool" look or for practical uses. This is part of Airsoft. As for myself, this fact is part of the marketing strat.

For the prices, I've answered that question. I cannot give any figures for now. But obviously, the cost will be higher that a regular, of the shelf, BDU or CIRAS. Remember that I'm not doing mass-market. Here, it's more like a winery. Small batch of high quality product.

I always try to reduce cost of production, finding the best fabrics at lower cost and so on. But the process of printing complex patterns ain't cheap and I'm not aiming at entry level BDU or gears, this market slice is saturated.

Just make sure you post when the decision has been made and the site is back up... I wouldnt mind getting my hands on any one of those patternns for some good gear

Fair enough. I'm not judging anyone, for the record, I just put substance before style for the most part. However if the two can be combined successfully, you're golden. :)

I can provide a few more pics of various Manitoba seasons for comparison if you'd like, Walter.

I'm with you on that Gryphon, and I think I got that "Balanced". For the pictures, just wait. I'm a bit overcrowded here!

Will the fabric be printed like parklands (fades like crazy) or dyed like frontenac (can't get mine to fade at all)?

Personally I chose highland because I have CADPAT and Multicam and its the closest one to inbetween...at least until that mudcat was posted.

Camoflage should be mixed with local foliage to be most effective, but for airsoft we really cant be stripping trees and bushes without consequences.

I voted for the second most popular one until I saw mudcat, seems like the best of all so far!

I disagree, the emplacement of the terracat armor makes it blend in more. Light colors around it make the eye perceive lighter colors at first glance so this picture is not fair for the other 2. I dont remember ever playing around washing machines hehe.

I agree, if you are going to roll something out for the springtime, I hope It'd be one of the more green ones. Terra cat looks hella cool for autumn/winter though.

With out grey highland will look like m84. Wich is very effective camo, sort of mix of cadpat and flecktarn.

Even if I don't like to compare, it's obvious that some of my patterns will look like M84, flecktarn or Multicam. It's like art...

LUTNIT. Of course, I don't want my fabric to fade. The final product will be 50/50 NYCO ripstop and/or twill. It's hard to dye, but It worth the cost.

In case you didn't saw them on the other thread, I made some sims of mixed patterns:

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...t=34016&page=7

*AHEM*

Something wrong with looking like M84? ;)

/points to userbars

Not at all Gryphon! I find it great.

Voted Concrete, only because i think it looks kick ass, but for practical playing purposes i'd definately go with the MUDCAT, splits the difference and looks killer.