Glock vs Deagle vs ?
 

I am looking into buying a Gbb or some gas powered gun of some sort. I want a nice gun that is common cause I am being annoyed with my main being hard to get a mag or two. I want above average or average bb/gas capacity. I want something easy on gas but lots of FPS and I want something that will last. I appreciate all your suggestions.

Consider getting a SOCOM NBB. They shoot great with propane and you don't have to buy a metal slide for it.

TM 4.3" Hicapa, M1911, or P226.

Uh those things leave a lot to be desired, like most TM guns, but this one is ultra plasticy and sounds and looks nothing like a really gun when fired.

I hear all good reports on the KSC G19. A metal slide/barrel for it doesn't cost too much.

However, the choices are mostly cosmetic. Just get something that has been proven to not suck ass.

G19 is a nice buy for KSC Glock, comes with steel recoil guide and loading ramp, which is originally plastic on the KSC G17 and 18. The only thing is if you want to accessorize your GBB some parts can be a bitch to get(threaded outer barrel...). The one I got off a member here now has metal slide and barrel with ungraded recoil spring and shoot straight through both side of the coke can with propane....

thanks for info but I think I am going to get a few days of data to collect lol. Sifting is always a fun thing lol. Time to get back to major projects due tommorow.

tokyo marui coming out with the new glock 17 gbb in a matter of time already. just another choice for ur consideration

all posts appreciated thanks

wow thanks that is truly appreciated I think that may have just made it alot more difficult but that is neccasary thanks.

If you also get a DE, your gonna need a large holster to hold it.

never thought of that thanks

KJ P14.45 or a TM 1911
 

I love my p14

I have had glocks and m9's and other ones but nothing has the kick of the kj p14

Wow you always are making my day endymion. I have a feeling you are going to be the major factor for now as to which i get as first. HAve d eagles ever had bad reliablilty?
Thanks

All new releases for GBBs from Marui can take propane well without the metal slide, but it's something you'll want to consider.

KSC Glocks are good, with proper care/handling they can go a long way ... otherwise you're subjected to replacement parts etc. G18C that is.

The Desert Eagle is for CS fanatics otherwise it's too big and not common enough, however it can take propane well.

Forget electric uzi's and get a KSC M11A1 or the HFC versions.

In all honesty, it comes down to what YOU want in a gun. You'll find alot more information from using the SEARCH button and Google. Youtube also has a ton of videos of several guns you may consider.

If you let other people decide what you should get, there is a very good chance that you will end up with something that you will not like. The best thing you can do is read all the information you can on each choice, weigh the pros against the cons and Decide for yourself what's best. Everyone has a different style of play, or a different look they're going for.

ya i have heard to decide for my self just i like to get ideas and a nice starting point that way i know there is some experience that is truly in the field that i am reading about not jus tsome softcore wannabe player.

Didn't read any of the opinions here, but I go full out for the KSC G19. I had two of them, my main one is metal slide/outer barrel, 6.04mm tightbore, enhanced recoil spring and guiderod, enhanced hammer spring and metal mag catch. I can get mansized target hits using 0.30g BBs (or heavier, up to 0.43g done that more than a few times) and propane past 100ft (just gotta aim it right, top of rear sight in line with bottom of white front sight's dot, same as I do at 30ft in my basement........ besides, it points naturally that way). And, when I played at Rawdon for Quick Pass 2 this past July, later in the day I was among the small group securing the area arounf the objective (comm tower) we had just blown up. My MP5 plugged on me (those that don't know, there is a LOT of sandy areas around that field, if not half & half desert and woodlands) I resorted to my G19 and 5 mags loaded with 0.43g Bbs (the heaviest BBs I had without using my $25 per 500 Super Grand Master sniper ammo) to do may part in holding the area. Got a number of hits on guys, but the point I'm making in this, is that I got hit once, out in the open, I holstered my G19 in my drop leg while lying on my back, the medic ran to me, grabbed me under my shoulders while "under fire" and tried to drag me to cover to apply the 'bandage'. I was pushing with my legs to help him carry me, my G19 fell out of my holster into the sand and my pushing with my legs covered it with sand. After being medic'd, I ran back and grabbed it, knocked it against my hand a few times, then went back to firing off the rest of my mags (were about 3 left). It fired no problem. Try that with a GBB that has an exposed hammer!

Stock, the gun is impressive, has good kick to it and is pretty accurate, more so when using more stable (heavier) ammo and propane. Can get an easy 1000 shots or more when stock (mileage varies though for some, whose slide breaks after a few hundred, not my experience with my stock G19 though) and running propane. Only thing I saw was the slide catch notch wore out some on the plastic slide, but a knife fixed it up just fine.

One advantage I can say compared about the KSC G19 compared to the DE is that the slide is a short action slide, unlike the Beretta, Desert Eagle, 1911, etc. Since the slide action is so short, it has a higher "rate of fire", kinda a 'snap, snap, snap' as opposed to a 'snaap. snaap, snaap' of larger "calibre" guns (based upon the real gun it was modelled after).

As far as KSC Glocks go, the G19 has manufacturing upgrades that other KSC Glocks don't have. The heavy weight frame for example (has metal powder mixed with the plastic to make it feel heavier and 'cold to the touch') but also comes stock with a steel recoil spring guide (the others are plastic) and steel feed ramp (same, others are all plastic, heard about a couple feed ramps snapping on KSC G18C).

Ok, nuff said, back to cooking I go.

ok that is a good idea but i am curious what was the value on the stock g19 then upgraded like yours.

Stock KSC G19 you can get for anywhere from $200 used (unless you find a great deal) to about $250 new.

Upgrades, well, my main one I bought used with a metal slide, cost me $200, metal mag catch was about $15CDN, Enhanced hammer spring ( bought a new one and moved my old one to my stock G19 to absorb more propane powered recoil) for about $10CDN, enhanced hammer spring was less than $10CDN, Guarder metal magcatch was I think $12CDN, and the HEAD 1950 tightbore was I think about $20USD from WGC. So overall upgrades without buying a GOOD metal slide kit (avoid at all costs G&G made ones, they are shit and lock up more than they fire) upgrades are about $40-60 depending on what you decide to buy. In case anyone is wondering, it shot 341fps one day with 0.20g BBs, and right after got about 267fps with 0.36g BBs.

I have a G19 with a metal slide and upgraded recoil and 150% hammer spring. Really acurate, easy to strip and hard hitting. It Never fails. Tons of aftermarket parts around. without a doubt a tough act to follow.

glock is a good buy, just about EVERY mag for a glock is interchangable, mags usually dont leak, and mags are super cheap (usually under $40) and theyre one of the more reliable gbb's. i dont have one myself, but i do reccomend it.

i have a ksc usp... its good. my metal slide upgrade was dissapointing tho. mostly because the barrel on chamber block wasnt drilled out enough for my inner barrel to fit through like it did on my stock slide, so i had to manually drill it out myself to fit my barrel in and put together... pretty ghey. and mags are friggen expensive, like $60+ and they leak... my one mag is only 2 months old and its leaking already. the one thing is i can go through 5 mags before i have to refill it.

i also have a 5.1 hicappa dragon. i really like this one. mags are cheap, they dont leak, can usually do 2-3 mags on one fill. but theyre goddamn expensive to boot.

a team member has a kjw sig 226 (now im not a big fan of kjw's!) but his gun came all metal, its solid, heavey, very reliable, and was pretty cheap. down side is one mag - one fill, mags are rare and expensive ($40-$60)

id reccommend either a glock, or the hicappa... or even the sig, i lean towards ksc or we other wise.

TM M1911a1, nice stock gun, with 0.2g mine shoots an average 290fps on propane, although mags are a little hard to come by. But enjoy searching for the one GBB too call yours
cheers
andrew

ty so far everyone for your input it really has helped

TM Sig P226R. I'm not debating it.

For a Glock sized (midframe size) gun, I can't argue either that the TM P226 is a pretty sweet gun for the accuracy and consistency. Except too many functions (external hammer, decocking lever, etc.) compared to the Glock. Glock only has a mag catch and a slide release lever, making it very simple. Add in the trigger safety, there ya go, keep your finger out of the trigger.......... ready to go under extreme stress.

Ok i am narrowing it down to glock vs d Eagle. post pros and cons if you don;t mind.

Glock
Pros:
-many mags are interchangable
-mags and guns are plentiful on the market
-small to large frame size so pick the model that fits you best
-millions of aftermarket parts and accessories(ok not millions)
-lots of holsters avalible
-good quality as in durable
-simple to use
-personally I love the look

Cons:
-the full auto glocks eat bbs like popcorn and can destroy there internals that much faster
-some people really dont like the look

Deagle:
Pros:
-long inner barrel
-powerful
-more conventional handgun look
-larger capacity mags

Cons:
-hard to find as tm is the only major making of this gun
-heavy
-looking for spare mags at retailers
-propane guzzler
-have fun finding a holster.


personally if I were you Id go with a safe bet. The KSC glock 19 almost every ksc glock mag can go in this gun and is a medium sized frame so your shots will have some accuracy. Mags are like $40 a mag and there seems to be the most aftermarket parts for this gun.

Having said all that I own a tm glock 26. Either way have fun thats what this game is all about.

I agree my favorite sidearm this gun rocks

GLOCK 34
 

HAVE A GLOCK 34......GOOD KSC GUN ....VERY ACURATE

tm glock 18c for its durability rather than ksc/kwa just because it costs way too much for gas, parts that may wear down faster such as slides and internals.

I love my KSC Glock 19 HW, and KSC Glock 18C.

I would never part with the 19, but the 18C is about as good as any other full-auto still in production.

If you want a damn good full auto GBB, I'd say go for a Prokiller Mark II. If you can find one.

g18c

Full auto GBB's need regular maintance, you have to take care of them, failure to do so ends up with them failing completely but if you do take care of them properly I've heard of people going years and tens of thousands of rounds with nothing breaking.

I have a caps lock key............ good key to have.............. doesn't jam on me. :D

Para ord 1911

I am narrowing it down to mainly guns able to run well amd long on propane with little to no maitence

tm p226. its an awsome gas gun, absolutely suggest it.

Para-Ordnance 14.45

Gorgeous gun.

Desert Eagle all the way!!!!!!

I think I may have made up my mind.Thanks so much guys.

I have a G26 advance and i tell you that thing is pretty fucking sweet, but it is a propane whore.. 24 bb's + one in the chamber = 1 mag fill.. and sometimes getting low on propane she likes to lock up

but other then that its frickin sweet

SIG Sauer P226/P228. I don't look at pistols that much so I can't specify the best brand for those models.

KSC made HK USP Compact

the best gun i have ever used, and i ve used quite a few pistols.

It's a huge frikin gun, I hope you have big hands. Before getting a gun like this I'd personaly like to feel how big it is, I don't really like the size/look of them.


Bestest gun IMO is the full metal KJW M9. I've not owned many different brands of GBB's but I do like full metal slides/guns. I tried Memels Glock...I think it was the 17 and it was pretty sweet. It fired so well I was impressed, I'd not used such an accurate GBB before. Apparently Illusion worked some special mojo on it.

If you could get out to a game you'd be able to see/touch/feel/smell a bunch of different GBb's. So much easier to pick one you like.

Out of the two guns you list I'd not take the Desert eagle without holding one first.

TM 4.5 hicappa - Because its accurate fun and looks better than a gloc
M11 - Because nothing says I love you like a 2 sec 49 bb spray

I like your idea of the d eagle thanks.

Freddy get one of you parents to bring you out to one of the games in Saskatchewan (either Regina or one of the few we host in Moose Jaw), between us players here we have just about every gun you've mentioned in various different version and stages of stock vs. upgraded not only internally but external as well.

Are you refering to the TM version SOCOM? Have you ever tried propane in it? The mags are unable to handle propane and require some serious tinkering ... good with a dremel and like headaches? Sure, go with a crappy, cheap plasticy TM Socom. You'll love it ... or is that love to hate. Ya, the second one.

FREDDY
Unless you have large hands the Eagle is just too damn huge. My hands are not exactly tiny but the gun is monsterous.

Glocks work great and are accurate. I personally hate them but that's only due to preference, nothing performance wise.

I own a number of full metal KJW M9's ... not for everyone but that is the one and only gun I would suggest. Be sure to get the new version with hop-up. That is the absolute only downside of the old ones, no hopup. They are still accurate, but it's nice to have some adjustability.

Also Freddy, try reading more and posting less m'kay? There's lots of information readily available on this site.

get the DE .50 chrome version its a total pimp gun

If you're still looking at the desert eagle, there is a nice metal slide version on RedWolf: KWC Metal Slide Desert Eagle
It's the first one at the top. I can't comment on the quality as I have never owned it. But if I were you I would go with a 1911 of sorts (I'm a 'big gun' guy myself, plus I like the classic style) like this one: WA S.C.W. Ver.3 Colt Government M1911A1 Military
Once again I cannot personally comment on the quality of this gun, but one of my buddies owns it and it hasn't failed him so far.