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Walmart... and SoftAir... 56k Warning.
Look what I found last weekend when I went to visit my local Walmart. (Markville Mall)
A bunch of SoftAir guns. All of them were electric blow backs + a few non-blowback mini electrics. There was a few tubs of crappy 6mm bb's left though. Theres no age requirement in purchasing them. I saw them nearly next to the kids toys section. I saw a group of I'm guessing around 12 year old kids buying A STACK LOAD. They took all of the springer shotguns + several EBB's + tubs of those crappy softair bbs. As you can see the p226 is out of stock same with many of the other EBB's walmart had. I over heard them talking about how they were going to shoot cars and have a "team deathmatch" guessing they mean team skirmish. No age requirement AT ALL. I was suprised. No wonder we have kids running around parks playing with softair and shooting each other without wearing proper eye gear. Pictures below. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...0/DSC00500.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...0/DSC00501.jpg The shotguns were all sold out. It looked like a M3 shorty from what the kids were carrying. What do you guys think about this? Should Walmart have put these behind their cages or freely let kids buy softair without their parents knowing? Update: Last week at Markville Walmart, me and my buddy were going to buy some Propane and we encountered 2 teenaged kids(brothers), if I were to guess their age they were around 13-14 years old. We saw them buying the shotgun, and they tried purchasing it by themselves however the cashier prompted the 18+ question. They ended up calling their mom and begging her to buy the shotty for them. I'm not sure if they ended up picking up the shotgun however, they sure begged their mom for it. Another group of skateboarding dickheads came into walmart and were trashing up the place, they were yelling out loud talking to each other saying, O HEY LETS HAVE SPRINGER WARS OUTSIDE! Man markville mall is full of those skateboarding teens! |
In the wal-mart I work at they are behind glass and its 18+ to buy, I don't know if they enforce it because I work nights.
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at one walmart here in london they are much like the pics above, totally exposed and usually sold out, but at another across town they are all behind the glass wall.
dont know if they enforce the 18+ rules at either, i've never been carded buying them... |
did you see how much one of them targets costed haha ??
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Locked up. Hell on the back of the crappy crosman guns It says must be 16 yrs or older to use.
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They dont check ID at the store in Barrie south end. Atleast not from what I have seen. Besides... the kids at the cash arent even over 18.. so it isnt like they are going to ask if the buyer is over 18 ... |
It's 18+ here for WalMart and Canadian Tire. Strange that some stores go against policy?
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Stores that are caught doing that can be "coached" so you should complain. Coaching is having to talk to your head boss.
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And then they make you do the walmart cheer.... *shudder* |
Reminds me I need to buy more red 0.12g BBs for next season. Seriously, I use them! Cuts down wear on my mechbox.
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at the canadian tire near my place theyre behind the glass, but theyre also stored with the real steal shotgun buckshot.
id imagine the press will get a hold of this "Team deathmatch" stuff after one of the kids loses an eye, and the soccer moms will win again. |
At my local Walmart the softair guns are in the same section of paintball and firearms stuff, near the toys section, locked up though. I don't know if they enforce the 18+ to buy such things I should check some how.
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Yeah It's pretty stupid how they don't keep the stuff in the cages. They keep GPS systems the cages but not the softair that could potentially take out a persons eye. I can buy airguns at Canadian Tire. The staff do not even bother carding or even asking how old I am. Last time I asked to take a look at those crappy Softair AEGs. I just wanted to see the internals and the guy opened the cage and asked if I wanted it. The whole 18+ doesn't apply at many stores. People dont really care to bother carding or even asking. |
Best Buy has a stupid cultish so called team building clap dance too. Really childish.
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I would be so tempted to get my kids to go buy one and then sue Wal-Mart for it. But then I don't have kids.....
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Who the HELL are gonna buy those....seriously... If it was in an AEG it ll be gone in a second. How much are a pack of those?! I ll take a million of those. |
^^ Looks like $2.50 or $3.50 Id just buy a tub of 6500 for $15
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zOmg a mini aug!
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Those are for slingshots |
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Isn't that the Wal mart at Markville |
Wow, I just noticed how crappy that peg board is and it's half gone haha If that was in my wal-mart who ever did that would get fired, or if it was natural wear and tear we'd fix it right away. By the way the Wal-mart I work at is going to be the first super store in Canada, on Wensday I think. Ancaster, Ontario come check it out the curtain drops on our new Grocery store with bakery, deli, meat shop there should be some good deals I think. Sorry if that sounded like an advertisment, just a heads up for cheap groceries.
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Man you gotta pay more attention LOL. |
Identity don't laugh at your elders and betters, douche.
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I don't really see what all the big deal is about. The guns pictured bear no similarity to the products of our hobby except that they shoot a similar diameter projectile.
Brightly coloured disproportionate plastic guns have been around longer than airsoft. Some shoot darts, some shoot aspherical pellets. These ones shoot spherical pellets. Do you plan on raggin on at length about transparent cap guns at your corner store? As long as unrestricted TOYS do not output sufficient energy to seriously harm a childs eye, there isn't a huge necessity to limit it's sale. |
I know the local walmart here in Rh sells some "high end" pieces of shit. And I was tempted to buy one. Just so I could pick it apart and learn how to rebuild it from scratch. I walked off for a bit and my friend said he get it for me to take apart. I gave him an evil look and said "a tub of ammo for it says you cant get it with out stealing it. I sat there waiting looking at the lego section.(Yes I like lego your never too old for it.) He comes back with a tub of ammo the pos electric gun and a bill and says "you owe me 15 bucks." I stopped off and asked the guy at the glass wall how old to get the stuff. He just shrugged I asked him for a box of shotgun ammo payed for it he gave it too me. I walked my way to returns holding my bag with ammo in it. And then demanded to see the manager. I seen him pulled out my wallet emptied my pockets and said "how the fuck was I able to buy this and my friend whom is only 15 able to buy this." Manager gave me a funny look and said "don't know don't care get out of my office." Left the shells on his desk took the pos aeg and its now in pieces at friends it is his after all.
Moral of the story "walmart just don't give a shit." And correct me if I am wrong but don't you need some sort of licence to buy shells? And yes it was a true story happened recently like 2 weeks ago. |
If it really bothers you, speak to the store manager. Failing that get a bunch of soccer moms riled up about it.
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Speaking of WalMart.... They finally broke into the medical world by openning up medical clinics down here (US). They're planning to open 60 or so clinics so that kids who shoot their eyes out can return their crap soft and get their eyes checked and looked after at the same time.
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If a bunch of kids running around the neighborhood with their soft air guns is that final push the gov't needs to ban airsoft and not softair, I say we all strike back and run around with soft air guns in public and ban the sport for the little bastards.
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Hahahaha strike back. :rolleyes: I dont think those little basterds even call it a sport. From what I heard they were playing "team deathmatch". |
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Hahah I know eh, what fools. They probably thought they were playing some reallife counterstrike. |
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Man when I went to buy BB's at CT (BB's for god sakes, plastic ones at that!) they carded me. Now your saying they let kids buy the actual guns! I feel wronged in more ways than one... actually wait... scratch that just one :D .
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I walked into WalMart -AND- CanTire here in Saskatoon. Both had the guns and ammo behind glass and lock.
Thankfully. |
They Should leave them out in the open so that me and my friends( who are 15 and 16 years old) will be able to buy them. we are into airsofting but however some of our parents dislke airsoft, so why not buy them, hide them and be able to airsoft decently well with decent guns. i have a stinger r34 which my mother bought me, but some of my friends parents are like all NO GUNS and shit wich i think is B.S, so leave it open!!!
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I am happy your friends parents have a brain, becouse the average 16 year old is an undisciplined, I know everything turd bag, and is not smart enough to not get him self shot by the cops. there are kids aroundf my house that run around with soft air, I want to find out where they live and slap there parents.
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Umm, is there some way i can defend my maturity and common sense as a 16 year old? This is for me only here, because there are a lot of 16 year old idiots. I ve seen em all.
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i think you just did
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Erm...16 year olds unite!:eek:
Just cause some of them are idiots, and do regrettably stupid things, (We all have to admit we have, no matter how old/young we are) but a small percentage of us wouldnt run around outside with airsoft/softair. Respect the ones who kick ass! |
woot!:salute:
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somebody hand Skater_maclennan a prize.... quote of the year here people.... quote of the year.
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Really stupid of a company to risk a lawsuit over that. It's funny that eye protection is required, but there are none near the product. There have been recent cases at Canadian Tire where ammunition sales have been made to people without a PAL. Bottom line, companies don't care until they are sued. Personally I don't care if some dim wit shoots his Own Eyes out. What bothers me is that the fallout and media coverage may prompt further restrictions of our hobby. If you think a store is selling airsoft to underage, drop an email to head office. You are protecting our hobby. I think that we are one or two well publicized incidences from huge restrictions or an all out ban.
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18 years, no if and's or buts. I have no doubt that you are a mature, decent guy. There unfortunately is no means test to prove that. The accepted bench mark of adulthood and "maturity" is 18. And sometimes, I and many other players just want to be around other adults. Most players are well into their mid 20's plus. Quite frankly it's nice a nice break to be around adults for a few hours and not have to worry about adolescents and children. In a few years I have no doubt that you will agree.
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Thats bullshit the law says that you must be 18 or with a parent.
I guess those guns are for target shooting? |
Just bought a .177 BB gun/Pellet gun (combo gun!) from wal-mart, to hold me over until I get my AK47S fixed. I noticed that the soft air guns were not behind the glass! I've never noticed this before, and then the traditional kids walk up with their parent/guardian, and ask said parent/guardian if they can buy one of the cheap crapsoft guns (although they're far more enthusiastic about it).
I bought a cheap Daisy air rifle, that said on the box "for ages 10+". The highest it went on any of their products was 16+...but all said with supervision by an adult. When they were ringing in the items: bbgun, bbs (6000 for $13!), pellets...each time the register said Check for ID/Check age...did the lady at the counter do so? No. Over at Canadian tire though (I looked around for the best price) all you could see was "AIR GUN POLICY" stickers on nearly every corner of the different sections of glass. I didn't buy anything, but I would assume they would check for ID...what with all those labels and stickers and such. P.S. Does anyone have a link to the law saying that it is 18+? From what I've seen today, it appears to be a guideline...depending on store policy only. |
What's all the fus recently with minors and airsoft. It's been decided it's 18+. It aint going to change. No amount of wining will get minors a gun.
Wallmart is being stupid with crapsoft. I'm sure it will change because those crap guns are all over the schools and more bad exposure is waiting to happen. Where are all the soccer moms when we need them? I never knew I would say that one day! |
Skater_maclennan you serousely need to get your head examaned
I still cant beleve I can get any walmart ammo with out a pal. |
My walmart in lower sackville nova scotia no longer has them behind glass.
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i was just at walmart and i tried to buy one. (wasnt serious about the purchase just wanted to see if theyd let me) and they wernt letting me:mad:
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Perhaps someone should ask the folks at wal-mart why the softair guns are not behind glass?
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I dont think they should be selling them to kids that young. I think it'd be okay if the kids were 16+ cause then they'd have the sense to wear eye gear and such. At the wal-mart nearby here (Windsor, Ontario, Canada) they ask for ID to prove your age of 18+. I don't know if they do that all the time though. I think it just depends on which employee is serving you.
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and i was at a walmart yesterday and i was looking at them they all suck but this like 7 year old runs up grabs an mini uzi and runs to the counter with his mom sitting there waiting for them i don't think it's most of the parents faults they probly think it's made for little kids
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someone beat you to it dogmeat, anyways would wal-mart really change there policies? anything for a penny right. they must be competing with canadian tire, by keeping there softair outside of the glass walmart is getting an advantage over CT.
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the walmart wear i live has em in the cages with the paintball and reall steel related stuff... and i tride buing one a few years ago and they didn't let me so its probably just that store that dosn't enforce it...
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(this is a little unrelated to softair but more to dagerous things out in the open)
I went to crappy tire for some epoxy and new saw blade while i was waiting in line i look over to a shelf and there was like 3000$ worth of fire works just sitting there in the open literally no word of a lie 5 steps away from the doors what have the excutives and ceos come to in today's modern life? |
Or just your store that does.
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the walmart at lougheed has some locked up and some not, pretty stupid if you ask me. i thought walmart was like a mcdonalds. anywhere you go its always the same. dont i guess i was wrong
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lol you shouldn't be taking pictures inside walmart, it is actually considered a criminal offense. Well keep in mind, not just walmart but pretty much any store you go into. Either they'll get mad or you'll get fined.
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Hello 911? Someone is taking pictures of my store. Yes its a Wal Mart...what stop laughing this is serious...what did you just put this call on speaker phone so everyone can hear me? Hello hello... |
lolol oh its just some privacy thing
I actually got kicked out of safeway for taking a few pics for my school project |
In that walmart they should have a cage or something. Jesus christ like a 7 year old kid could get one and the parent wouldnt think any wiser because it was free to grab. =/
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If that were true, there would be a police station inside Best Buy and Future Shop. |
thats gay, near my place the walmarts and canadian tires sell them for 18+ just like the realy guns and Bbs...
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And how is that 'gay'? Are you afraid of homosexuals? Are you 12 years old?
How about you buy a real airsoft gun? hmm? |
He's 13, be prepared for the flame about your age mistake ;)
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whats that mean?
i may be 13 but i know allot, and also, im not afraid of homosexuals, i think people can be whatever they want to be expept Brandon Mundy. He was Bi and he had a crush on me so there.... It "gay" that kids can but guns without permission and go shooting them off into space |
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*heads blows up* |
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graylocks vs theendisnear
**hands graylocks his tool kit.** might i sugest the blowtourch I am all for mature 16 plus players in airsoft but when one that is 13 shows clear signs of imaturity thats a difrent story. and sighns he wants to force his wAy into it. Put straight its the immature assholes that ruins my sport. if i had graylockses extencive knolage I would do it my self. i am dam glad some wallmarts keep crapsoft to 18+ only |
13 year old kid with buddies doing ONE stupid thing+crapsoft= possibilit of being shot dead by police.
AIRSOFT ONLY FOR 18+++ Airsoft is not for kids running around shoting each other. Get faken cap guns or water guns for that!!! Forget about airsoft till your 18. |
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well i dont see wahts wrong with kids shooting clear "soft air " guns at each other they dont have anymore than like 200 fps right? well i dont think thats enough to do any damage even to the eye, also i doubt a cops going to see a bright blue seethru mp5 and shoot him expecially when the kids that are using them are going to be around 13. i dont like the idea of kids playing soft-air guns but i dont think that its an entirely huge problem.
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Long story short, shooting yourself point blank with a clear Crosman can cause you to bleed from your arm. |
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who shoots someone with a gun even if it softair point blank??
anyhow well im doubting that it would do any dmg but then again im sure kids are bound to do something stupid like shooting a guy point blank in the eye( i unno why they would) i doubt kids would but u cant tell which kids are retarded when u sell them the gun at wallmart(doubt they would care if they even knew that he was) but it should be ok if they are playing under adult supervision with some type of eye protecting where ppl dont just walk by and get in crossfire |
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when isnt someone trigger happy? lets be serious
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good point i guess i didnt think it through :P
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Yea, I'm all for mature 13 year olds playing airsoft
I'm also all for mature 14 year old's renting porn I think 14 is a prime age as well for legalized drinking heck, 16 year olds should be allowed to buy AND sell cigarettes. Shit.... I think 15 year olds should be allowed... no... ENCOURAGED to get married and have children. Many... many children. As many as they can pop out of them ie: stfu. |
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japan 13 for airsoft most of erop 14 for sexual acts germany 14 leagel drinking(beer only) mexico 16 for cigs the last one is more historical britten but ya thease are corect to the best of my knolage i might have the locations wrong |
You guys are right.. that is the way things may have been in the past.. but these are changing times. In the olden days and girl that was over the age of 12 was ripe for marriage and kids. But now you go to jail for that.. plus you have to be kept away from other prisoners because they hurt people that do that.. but thats not the point.. the point is.. just because things WERE done that way in the past doesnt make them right for current times. I dont care how mature a 13 year old acts.. they shouldnt be playing airsoft without a parent with them.. they should NOT be allowed to buy anything that shoots things.. that can be used to hurt people.. that goes for clear soft, sling shots, paintball guns, and BB guns.. god knows your just asking for trouble..
Most of the time I believe some rules are made to be broken.. but then there are times like these when I believe that they should be enforced better.. We live in a time when most people get away with so much.. and they still try to get more. I mean.. you can't beat your 13 year old anymore.. or they can call the cops on you.. they smoke, and do drugs.. and some even get knocked up.. the world is going to hell.. and they feel the have a right to do what they want.. So come on people.. join with me.. Down with Teens.. Down with Teens.. you know.. the under 18 ones... If I have offended anyone please let me know.. I dont mean to be a complete ass but sometimes it comes out that way. |
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sadly I can also think of numerous adults who should be kept seperate from the same. what ever happened to the good old days where children were considered property, and a cheap source of labour. damnd spca starting the snowball rolling on getting kids rights. |
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