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Thunder Kimerson September 24th, 2006 23:04

Merceneries
 
What does one really look like?

mcguyver September 24th, 2006 23:08

Just like your sig, but only in eastern europe and the Middle East.

Everywhere else, they look like Donald Trump in pink camo.

Amazing KG3 September 24th, 2006 23:22

mercenaires were so last season, PMCs are the new black.

Hades September 24th, 2006 23:30

google image search, it works wonders. Though as stated above pink camo seems to be the regular

Johnder July 10th, 2007 07:10

They look like BAMF !!!

www.mercs.xt.pl

cheers
Johnder

testtube July 10th, 2007 07:31

It's not PINK it's SAMON.

Echos September 9th, 2008 01:40

So then where is the PMC theme section?

Jimski September 9th, 2008 09:16

they wear beige, and they have a big pixellated head.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...8D_213006a.jpg

Porkchop September 9th, 2008 09:57

Here you go:
Modern mercenaries:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...peter_dome.jpg

DENZILDON September 9th, 2008 10:16

You mean this thread?

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=24525

burningashes October 6th, 2008 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porkchop (Post 813765)

LMAO, they look like retards in circus wear

Brian McIlmoyle October 6th, 2008 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by burningashes (Post 834525)
LMAO, they look like retards in circus wear

Swiss Guard .. at the Vatican .. the Swiss have provided a contingent of security for the Vatican under contract since the 16th century. The wear the original uniform of the unit originaly contracted.

All the members of this unit are trained to elite status .. this cerimonial duty is a fraction of the work done by this unit at the vatican.

As you can imagine there are a lot of potential threats to the Pope and the Vatican in general.. These guys look after all of that..

They may look like "Retards in Circus wear" but you successfuly proven yourself ignorant..

Blackthorne October 6th, 2008 12:39

They cross train with everyone

JTF27 October 6th, 2008 12:57

Play the game mercenaries. It will answer all of your questions. For your patch put the phrase "OH NO YOU DIDN'T!"

elite soldier August 23rd, 2009 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by burningashes (Post 834525)
LMAO, they look like retards in circus wear

those are swiss guards not mercs...hehe they do look rediculous:lol:

elite soldier August 23rd, 2009 16:08

to make a good mercenary impression, just wear a mix of stuff, make it unique. mercs usually will buy their own stuff and dont have a specific uniform guideline (unless banded together or something)

DuffMan August 23rd, 2009 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 834531)
All the members of this unit are trained to elite status .. this cerimonial duty is a fraction of the work done by this unit at the vatican.

This is often claimed, but is only partly true. These guys are chosen based on their proficiency yes, but even more important is that they are Catholic and that they are presentable (good looking). Further, the training for their ceremonial duties takes a lot of their time. They train with halberds for instance, when they could be training in actual modern TTPs.
They're pretty good at what they do, and this is a pretty big generalization, of course. They have their own division like any military/LE organization, but looking at their LCD, I wouldn't say that they are as tactically proficient as a Tier-2 SOF unit or LE body like the USSS or Shabak.

Kit August 23rd, 2009 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by elite soldier (Post 1051188)
to make a good mercenary impression, just wear a mix of stuff, make it unique. mercs usually will buy their own stuff and dont have a specific uniform guideline (unless banded together or something)

X2!

Jbone 11 11 September 2nd, 2009 08:05

GOt a couple of friends who do PMC work in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are not allowed to wear camo in those places, full stop. Specially MARPAT. Aparently, the Marines get mighty pissed if they see anyone sporting there colours.

I have seen pics of what are obviously PMC's wearing various camo in Iraq and questioned the guys I know. Answer: Them were the old days.....so to speak (or the pics were taken outside out of theater while in training)
Too many PMC's in theater wearing camo makes it difficult to tell who's who (as if it was easy before) so now the SOP is no camo. 5.11's and shit like that are the norm now.

So... if you want to look like the modern day merc/PMC 5.11 and royal robins under that gucci assualt vest ; ) A good representation in recent cinema is the PMC crew in the hurt locker.

colint94 November 27th, 2009 20:31

Yeah, like said above, its not just frowned upon but illegal for privatized forces to use camouflage. I use a PMC loadout and have 5.11 pants, a black underamor shirt, a tan rig, and have some various pouches and my Echo1 CPW. Some people will go for grey or white shirts, but I like the breathability, and black looks cool, :P

-Skeletor- November 28th, 2009 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by colint94 (Post 1112422)
Yeah, like said above, its not just frowned upon but illegal for privatized forces to use camouflage.

Where'd you get this info from?

When I was in Afghanistan last year majority of the PMCs I saw were in Camo(Multicam)

Con Murder November 28th, 2009 17:38

To add to the real question of a PMC load out.
It is loaded with pouches as these men rely on what they have to get the job done. Military can rely on what the military has. Lots of mags with a STANAG firearm (get creative man, give a back story for your merc and his choice weapon) if you work for NATO and well get creative if you don't. The number of mags is staggering, like 10-14 so remember that molle is a must. Add grenade pouches and fill with a balance of distraction devices and grenades, 40mm grenades if you got them.
Remember that these people hit hard and have to get in and out all with out resuply. Take that into your role in airsoft, playing as a PMC? Fill up on ammo at the start of the day and don't reload. Takes the role to a new level.
As for looking the part on the airsoft field, you gotta convince your friends nothing more. If they are CODM2 freaks you can probably go jeans a T and your tac rig. If they are a CADPAT clad team maybe rock the pants or a hat in CADPAT. Your still on a team and trying to make it easy for your teammates to tell friend from fiend helps everyone. Your choice of camo should be blend of where you are and where your from, if your team is in desert colors you could use DPM pants with a tan T shirt as a British pmc. Or OD shirt with Alpenflage plants if your a Swede on say a Woodland team.

Small things can help with your BDU looking custom. Have a lady friend customize some stichting for you or put in mesh (armpits and crotch). The collars and the pockets can be altered to prefrance, remember under a vest you can't reach breast pockets. Get some character specific extras to fill out loose ends and make it convincing. A German pin or union jack bandana can say alot with out being drastic. A novel watch or glove set can help set you apart, along with eyewear and head gear. Remember it can all be customized to look like it was made for you as a pmc, but airsoft is a team sport so try plan as part of a team.

Huron November 28th, 2009 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Skeletor- (Post 1112694)
Where'd you get this info from?

When I was in Afghanistan last year majority of the PMCs I saw were in Camo(Multicam)

Perhaps he meant a primarily issued camo like CADPAT or ACU.

colint94 December 5th, 2009 13:37

Yea, I was thinking like CAD/MARPAT, ACU. I'd understand MC though, just curious, do you have pics?

And for the OP, heres my kit for PMC (using an AK):
-5.11 Coyote Brown Pants
-Black Underarmor HeatGear Shirt
-Coyote Brown MOD Vest
-2 Dual AK Mag Pouches (holds 4 each, 8 mags total)
-Coyote Brown Admin Panel
-Coyote Brown Dual Grenade Pouch
-Coyote Brown Dual 40mm Pouch (for an M79)
-Coyote Brown iPouch (so I can listen to Danger On The Track all game haha)
-Coyote Brown Radio Pouch

I'm mostly basing my off of Blackwater Contractors I've seen in footage, photos, and books. My gun is an Echo1 CPW, which is perfectly tailored to a mercenaries needs, I love it. I'm gonna be getting an M79 soon, hence the 40mm Pouches. If you want some good information on Blackwater and other mercenary companies and policies I'd recommend reading Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army by Jeremy Scahill. Its a great read and goes really in depth on the company.

DuffMan January 12th, 2010 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by colint94 (Post 1117366)
If you want some good information on Blackwater and other mercenary companies and policies I'd recommend reading Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army by Jeremy Scahill. Its a great read and goes really in depth on the company.

I recommend the exact opposite. The book is a load of shit and Scahill is an asshat.

R.I.T.Z February 10th, 2010 20:12

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My kit almost done

pugs144 February 10th, 2010 20:31

It's such a smashing good photo my monocle dislodged itself in amazement!!!!

R.I.T.Z February 10th, 2010 20:43

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Originally Posted by pugs144 (Post 1161816)
It's such a smashing good photo my monocle dislodged itself in amazement!!!!

lmao I will take that as a .... compliment yeah I think that works :p

Conker February 10th, 2010 20:50

Hmmpgf..... what kind of "mercenary"? As in video games and movies, or a more realistic PMC-ish?

R.I.T.Z February 10th, 2010 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conker (Post 1161825)
Hmmpgf..... what kind of "mercenary"? As in video games and movies, or a more realistic PMC-ish?

nothing in particular actually, just whatever gear I use in game, it just doesn't fall into any specific category so its PMC ish I guess

DuffMan February 10th, 2010 21:20

A beret? Seriously?

R.I.T.Z February 10th, 2010 21:22

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Originally Posted by DuffMan (Post 1161842)
A beret? Seriously?

damn skippy :p lol its to keep the hair back, until I get my Mohawk back :p

Jimski February 10th, 2010 21:25

executive outcomes

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http://konstipation.com/stuff/eo/ExecutiveOutcomes.jpg

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blackwater

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/07..._230awidec.jpg

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/080317_cote.jpg

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http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/134.JPG

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/138.jpg

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/139.jpg
the one in the middle is oldschool :)

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/14...cpefaph3bl.jpg

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/14...ozbgwph4au.jpg

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/1559.jpg

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http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/32234770be7.jpg

pugs144 February 10th, 2010 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuffMan (Post 1161842)
A beret? Seriously?

Yeah dude I wasn't gonna say anything at first......

Shirley February 10th, 2010 21:30

... You could've used any other cap.. even a paper bag..........

Conker February 10th, 2010 21:44

Exactly... that's why I asked. A movie/game-ish setup could always pass a beret, but any realistic or PMC would never wear a beret.

And please, adjust correctly that CIRAS. Plates would be a nice thing, too...

R.I.T.Z February 10th, 2010 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conker (Post 1161862)
Exactly... that's why I asked. A movie/game-ish setup could always pass a beret, but any realistic or PMC would never wear a beret.

And please, adjust correctly that CIRAS. Plates would be a nice thing, too...

whats wrong with the vest?

Jimski February 10th, 2010 21:51

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/BA...ATTACK-DOG.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1161867)
whats wrong with the vest?

it's beige

Gerkraz February 10th, 2010 21:51

the shoulder pads actually being on your shoulders would be a good start...

Jimski February 10th, 2010 22:01

try to beat that much beige

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/pmcraidstupidtext.jpg

and look at this amazing outfit inspiration for a VIP

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/z4542817zgv5.jpg

R.I.T.Z February 10th, 2010 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerkraz (Post 1161871)
the shoulder pads actually being on your shoulders would be a good start...

ok anything else? the shoulders slipped sorry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimski (Post 1161876)

wtf?

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Originally Posted by Jimski (Post 1161876)
and look at this amazing outfit inspiration for a VIP

http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/z4542817zgv5.jpg

[/QUOTE]
LOL i'm gonna have to use that in a scenario

Conker February 10th, 2010 22:36

Well it just looks loose, empty (no plates) and to sit too low on your torso.

Gerkraz February 10th, 2010 22:40

^this

You need to adjust the shoulder pads, bring the vest up so it actually covers your torso, and get some dummy plates in there. You might also consider putting your mags in it when you're taking pictures.

Also, as others have said, ditch the beret. Get a low-profile baseball cap or, at worst, a boonie or watch cap.

You might also consider getting a tan/OD shemagh instead.

Conker February 10th, 2010 23:12

Also sunglasses or something... For the shemagh, I personally believe you can keep it.

Obviously, you don't want to look like an afro-american hippie in a white supremascist hunt party (don't ask my where I got this comparison, lol) but you don't need to be ubercamouflaged either... So a non-camo shemagh is good enough.

The Lettonian February 10th, 2010 23:23

Screw the lot of you. Berets freaking rule. So he wants to go game-ish...let him. Airsoft is half gameplay, half looking aweome while you do it. And berets are awesome. Do your thing, RITZ. I'd imagine a real PMC doesn't go for a "PMC look"...they just do what works. If a beret works for you, then rock it. But if you really do want to go full-out milsim, then listen to what these guys are telling you. ASC is a goldmine of info like that. But don't get sucked into the "perfect my kit as per pictures of real soldiers" trap if you don't want to.

R.I.T.Z February 10th, 2010 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerkraz (Post 1161897)
^this

You need to adjust the shoulder pads, bring the vest up so it actually covers your torso, and get some dummy plates in there. You might also consider putting your mags in it when you're taking pictures.

Also, as others have said, ditch the beret. Get a low-profile baseball cap or, at worst, a boonie or watch cap.

You might also consider getting a tan/OD shemagh instead.

the shoulder pads are a given
the mags are in the pouches,
the shemagh is getting replaced with a tan one
the sunglasses, I wear goggles I can't wear sunglasses because I'm nearsighted
and the hat, I'm just temporarily using the beret until I bring back my mohawk
as for plates I personally find no use for them.

Conker February 10th, 2010 23:42

Well FNG, you're quite right, but I've asked him if he was going for either PMC realistic-ish or game-ish, and he said PMC, so we answered considering this ;)

As for the beret being useful... Well, I can certainly understand people's opinion saying it looks cool, but I don't see any other situation where (outside of military dress) it could actually be usefull.

R.I.T.Z February 10th, 2010 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conker (Post 1161966)
Well FNG, you're quite right, but I've asked him if he was going for either PMC realistic-ish or game-ish, and he said PMC, so we answered considering this ;)

As for the beret being useful... Well, I can certainly understand people's opinion saying it looks cool, but I don't see any other situation where (outside of military dress) it could actually be usefull.

well I appreciate your help guys there are a few things missing from my kit, and a few things I'm still changing

DuffMan February 11th, 2010 00:23

If you're going to wear a beret for supercool 80s euro commando look, wicked. Break it in. It looks like a chef's hat. Cut the liner out and put it on in the shower. Let it dry on your head or similar shaped/sized object.

R.I.T.Z February 11th, 2010 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuffMan (Post 1162027)
If you're going to wear a beret for supercool 80s euro commando look, wicked. Break it in. It looks like a chef's hat. Cut the liner out and put it on in the shower. Let it dry on your head or similar shaped/sized object.

did it, the beret is from my cadet days so cut the liner, stretch shaped dried over a volley ball, but my heads gotten bigger. and hair is too long. I'll be rocking a patrol cap, and my mohawk again this season. I'll track some more pouches down after I'm done the rest of my gun

mills0 February 11th, 2010 02:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNG_13 (Post 1161922)
Screw the lot of you. Berets freaking rule. So he wants to go game-ish...let him. Airsoft is half gameplay, half looking aweome while you do it. And berets are awesome. Do your thing, RITZ. I'd imagine a real PMC doesn't go for a "PMC look"...they just do what works. If a beret works for you, then rock it. But if you really do want to go full-out milsim, then listen to what these guys are telling you. ASC is a goldmine of info like that. But don't get sucked into the "perfect my kit as per pictures of real soldiers" trap if you don't want to.

+1

Just do what feels right mate ;)

Ballcancer February 12th, 2010 02:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by mills0 (Post 1162138)
+1

Just do what feels right mate ;)

++1

RITZ you need to rock what you think looks badass in your eye.. not anyone elses.. for example.. the deltoid protector i put on my vest.. ya of course I used a MOLLE leg panel but it works and I think it looks good ... so dude you keep rocking that Baret.. if you don't want to use plates who cares... and so on and so forth. If this is the kit that works for you then keep on using it!

sticks February 12th, 2010 11:38

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MrEvolution February 12th, 2010 12:54

Tacticool AK...drum mag...oh my eyes THEY BLEED.

Everything else looks top notch, but dont show your socks :)

sticks February 12th, 2010 13:17

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Brian McIlmoyle February 12th, 2010 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by sticks (Post 1163074)
lol ya i would have had my boots on, if they weren't covered in paint from FR's

I have to take my boots off before i clear my mom's house too.

Conker February 12th, 2010 14:26

Well, apart that PMC's are forbidden to wear any military camouflage, eg ACU.

That is, to be accurate.

But yeah, sure it's airsoft do what you like.

KNIVEZS February 12th, 2010 14:36

PMC ish load out

http://i50.tinypic.com/mt5sw4.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/zc28h.jpg

pugs144 February 12th, 2010 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by sticks (Post 1163074)
lol ya i would have had my boots on, if they weren't covered in paint from FR's

And more POOOOSHHUUUUUPS!!

carllehot January 9th, 2011 22:27

The American Tier1 look like merc for me ! I know they are Special Forces..... But merc are special forces too !

Karma_ January 9th, 2011 22:56

They aren't special forces. Some may come from a special forces background but it wouldn't be a high number.

carllehot January 9th, 2011 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karma_ (Post 1384023)
They aren't special forces. Some may come from a special forces background but it wouldn't be a high number.

So what are they?

FOX_111 January 10th, 2011 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by carllehot (Post 1384026)
So what are they?

Ex military or crazy yahoo.

rustysniper January 10th, 2011 15:56

Surpisingly enough...having sat on a Trans Pacific flight next to one....they are often guys who can't get into the military for one reason or another.
And a number of them are also guys who were military and didn't fit back into civilian life.

carllehot January 10th, 2011 19:28

But did they are US property ? or just running for contract to contract ?

-Skeletor- January 10th, 2011 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by carllehot (Post 1384601)
But did they are US property ? or just running for contract to contract ?


The PMC companies based in the US are not Government or owned by the US. Some have had contracts from the US Government for different jobs overseas but they are not owned by the Government, it is still a private organization.

dantheman April 21st, 2011 02:49

Just get a black vest which holds your mags and other stuff (I wouldn't really go with a plate carrier though) and underneath just wear a tshirt or maybe some brown or greyish coloured shirt/long sleeve (or whatever else you think is comfortable). For pants I would also get some black or khaki coloured pants, just something that doesn't have a camo pattern on it. for head gear wear goggles or safety glasses that look like sun glasses and wear a black/khaki/greyish baseball cap (but not those "gangsta" Bape or G Unit crap hats).
Thats what many PMC look like in pics.
Or you can dress like the guys from Army of two with their skull masks xD

Don.McClain April 16th, 2013 14:36

Are polo's no longer worn by merc/ PMCs?

pugs144 April 16th, 2013 14:51

Wat?

Brian McIlmoyle April 16th, 2013 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don.McClain (Post 1785041)
Are polo's no longer worn by merc/ PMCs?

no longer pemitted by international law.. and will be phazed out for the general population by 2020

pugs144 April 16th, 2013 15:12

Nobody's taking away my black polos.

Danke April 16th, 2013 15:21

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Originally Posted by pugs144 (Post 1785056)
Nobody's taking away my black polos.

Since you were in the ad you've been grandfathered for all colours.

FOX_111 April 16th, 2013 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1785054)
no longer pemitted by international law.. and will be phazed out for the general population by 2020

What? why?

Deadpool April 16th, 2013 15:44

Because of these:

http://www.douchearchives.com/douche...1301650124.jpg

D-Rock April 17th, 2013 00:45

Find old archived copies of 'Soldier of Fortune' or any other military history magazine. YOu'll find the weirdest pics...

I wish I still had this cover, there was this musclebound guy, with a black beret, mirror shades, and an olive drab t-shirt, blazing away with twin machine pistols. It was circa early 80's. Total action hero stuff, I kid you not. So check out old military magazines. At least you'll get a laugh out of them, and get some inspiration.

gfh September 23rd, 2013 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 834531)
Swiss Guard .. at the Vatican .. the Swiss have provided a contingent of security for the Vatican under contract since the 16th century. The wear the original uniform of the unit originaly contracted.

All the members of this unit are trained to elite status .. this cerimonial duty is a fraction of the work done by this unit at the vatican.

As you can imagine there are a lot of potential threats to the Pope and the Vatican in general.. These guys look after all of that..

They may look like "Retards in Circus wear" but you successfuly proven yourself ignorant..

well said brian like the saying goes " better to keep your mouth shut, and let ppl think you stupid....then open it and prove it

CR0M February 5th, 2014 18:42

plaid makes the tacticool, you cant be cool withoutz the plaid. And white shemaughs tooz

@ op Pike

http://airsoftcanada.com/picture.php...pictureid=6173

Wilkie February 5th, 2014 21:19

When you think about it a merc is kinda like an armed hipster, what with the plaid, and the white shemaughs :D

Lol j/k. Good looking kit

j_march February 5th, 2014 22:11

Cigar is a must there Hannibal.

Chemo March 16th, 2014 19:08

@CR0M
I'm digging the plaid, but I think my friend here pulls it off better ;)
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5475b968.jpg

Theesire December 6th, 2014 18:00

I really wish none of you used imageshack seeing as this thread started in '06 and so much of it is gone.

Unsung Hero January 19th, 2015 21:42

From what I've heard the majority of guys doing contract work wear gear comparable to the american military if able to do so. Apparently certain companies have policies that can make that impossible, but the british companies encourage their employees to emulate american military uniforms (not directly, but using civilian companies that have similar camo patterns, etc.) this has two benefits. 1: everyone looks like their on the same side, so less chance of american soldiers lighting you up, and 2: You create a much lower profile in regards to any potential media attention/local attention. It takes more than an initial glance from a reporter to make the connection. By all accounts though contracting companies are working more and more at shifting their "image" from guys gnucci'd up in tac gear while wearing polo shirts and jeans to essentially pure emulation of standing military forces (PSD in non-warzones aside).


Just what I've gleaned/ my two cents.


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