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Merceneries
What does one really look like?
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Just like your sig, but only in eastern europe and the Middle East.
Everywhere else, they look like Donald Trump in pink camo. |
mercenaires were so last season, PMCs are the new black.
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google image search, it works wonders. Though as stated above pink camo seems to be the regular
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It's not PINK it's SAMON.
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So then where is the PMC theme section?
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they wear beige, and they have a big pixellated head.
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...8D_213006a.jpg |
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All the members of this unit are trained to elite status .. this cerimonial duty is a fraction of the work done by this unit at the vatican. As you can imagine there are a lot of potential threats to the Pope and the Vatican in general.. These guys look after all of that.. They may look like "Retards in Circus wear" but you successfuly proven yourself ignorant.. |
They cross train with everyone
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Play the game mercenaries. It will answer all of your questions. For your patch put the phrase "OH NO YOU DIDN'T!"
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to make a good mercenary impression, just wear a mix of stuff, make it unique. mercs usually will buy their own stuff and dont have a specific uniform guideline (unless banded together or something)
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They're pretty good at what they do, and this is a pretty big generalization, of course. They have their own division like any military/LE organization, but looking at their LCD, I wouldn't say that they are as tactically proficient as a Tier-2 SOF unit or LE body like the USSS or Shabak. |
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GOt a couple of friends who do PMC work in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are not allowed to wear camo in those places, full stop. Specially MARPAT. Aparently, the Marines get mighty pissed if they see anyone sporting there colours.
I have seen pics of what are obviously PMC's wearing various camo in Iraq and questioned the guys I know. Answer: Them were the old days.....so to speak (or the pics were taken outside out of theater while in training) Too many PMC's in theater wearing camo makes it difficult to tell who's who (as if it was easy before) so now the SOP is no camo. 5.11's and shit like that are the norm now. So... if you want to look like the modern day merc/PMC 5.11 and royal robins under that gucci assualt vest ; ) A good representation in recent cinema is the PMC crew in the hurt locker. |
Yeah, like said above, its not just frowned upon but illegal for privatized forces to use camouflage. I use a PMC loadout and have 5.11 pants, a black underamor shirt, a tan rig, and have some various pouches and my Echo1 CPW. Some people will go for grey or white shirts, but I like the breathability, and black looks cool, :P
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When I was in Afghanistan last year majority of the PMCs I saw were in Camo(Multicam) |
To add to the real question of a PMC load out.
It is loaded with pouches as these men rely on what they have to get the job done. Military can rely on what the military has. Lots of mags with a STANAG firearm (get creative man, give a back story for your merc and his choice weapon) if you work for NATO and well get creative if you don't. The number of mags is staggering, like 10-14 so remember that molle is a must. Add grenade pouches and fill with a balance of distraction devices and grenades, 40mm grenades if you got them. Remember that these people hit hard and have to get in and out all with out resuply. Take that into your role in airsoft, playing as a PMC? Fill up on ammo at the start of the day and don't reload. Takes the role to a new level. As for looking the part on the airsoft field, you gotta convince your friends nothing more. If they are CODM2 freaks you can probably go jeans a T and your tac rig. If they are a CADPAT clad team maybe rock the pants or a hat in CADPAT. Your still on a team and trying to make it easy for your teammates to tell friend from fiend helps everyone. Your choice of camo should be blend of where you are and where your from, if your team is in desert colors you could use DPM pants with a tan T shirt as a British pmc. Or OD shirt with Alpenflage plants if your a Swede on say a Woodland team. Small things can help with your BDU looking custom. Have a lady friend customize some stichting for you or put in mesh (armpits and crotch). The collars and the pockets can be altered to prefrance, remember under a vest you can't reach breast pockets. Get some character specific extras to fill out loose ends and make it convincing. A German pin or union jack bandana can say alot with out being drastic. A novel watch or glove set can help set you apart, along with eyewear and head gear. Remember it can all be customized to look like it was made for you as a pmc, but airsoft is a team sport so try plan as part of a team. |
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Yea, I was thinking like CAD/MARPAT, ACU. I'd understand MC though, just curious, do you have pics?
And for the OP, heres my kit for PMC (using an AK): -5.11 Coyote Brown Pants -Black Underarmor HeatGear Shirt -Coyote Brown MOD Vest -2 Dual AK Mag Pouches (holds 4 each, 8 mags total) -Coyote Brown Admin Panel -Coyote Brown Dual Grenade Pouch -Coyote Brown Dual 40mm Pouch (for an M79) -Coyote Brown iPouch (so I can listen to Danger On The Track all game haha) -Coyote Brown Radio Pouch I'm mostly basing my off of Blackwater Contractors I've seen in footage, photos, and books. My gun is an Echo1 CPW, which is perfectly tailored to a mercenaries needs, I love it. I'm gonna be getting an M79 soon, hence the 40mm Pouches. If you want some good information on Blackwater and other mercenary companies and policies I'd recommend reading Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army by Jeremy Scahill. Its a great read and goes really in depth on the company. |
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My kit almost done
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It's such a smashing good photo my monocle dislodged itself in amazement!!!!
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Hmmpgf..... what kind of "mercenary"? As in video games and movies, or a more realistic PMC-ish?
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A beret? Seriously?
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... You could've used any other cap.. even a paper bag..........
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Exactly... that's why I asked. A movie/game-ish setup could always pass a beret, but any realistic or PMC would never wear a beret.
And please, adjust correctly that CIRAS. Plates would be a nice thing, too... |
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http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/BA...ATTACK-DOG.jpg
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the shoulder pads actually being on your shoulders would be a good start...
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try to beat that much beige
http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/pmcraidstupidtext.jpg and look at this amazing outfit inspiration for a VIP http://konstipation.com/stuff/pmc/z4542817zgv5.jpg |
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LOL i'm gonna have to use that in a scenario |
Well it just looks loose, empty (no plates) and to sit too low on your torso.
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^this
You need to adjust the shoulder pads, bring the vest up so it actually covers your torso, and get some dummy plates in there. You might also consider putting your mags in it when you're taking pictures. Also, as others have said, ditch the beret. Get a low-profile baseball cap or, at worst, a boonie or watch cap. You might also consider getting a tan/OD shemagh instead. |
Also sunglasses or something... For the shemagh, I personally believe you can keep it.
Obviously, you don't want to look like an afro-american hippie in a white supremascist hunt party (don't ask my where I got this comparison, lol) but you don't need to be ubercamouflaged either... So a non-camo shemagh is good enough. |
Screw the lot of you. Berets freaking rule. So he wants to go game-ish...let him. Airsoft is half gameplay, half looking aweome while you do it. And berets are awesome. Do your thing, RITZ. I'd imagine a real PMC doesn't go for a "PMC look"...they just do what works. If a beret works for you, then rock it. But if you really do want to go full-out milsim, then listen to what these guys are telling you. ASC is a goldmine of info like that. But don't get sucked into the "perfect my kit as per pictures of real soldiers" trap if you don't want to.
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the mags are in the pouches, the shemagh is getting replaced with a tan one the sunglasses, I wear goggles I can't wear sunglasses because I'm nearsighted and the hat, I'm just temporarily using the beret until I bring back my mohawk as for plates I personally find no use for them. |
Well FNG, you're quite right, but I've asked him if he was going for either PMC realistic-ish or game-ish, and he said PMC, so we answered considering this ;)
As for the beret being useful... Well, I can certainly understand people's opinion saying it looks cool, but I don't see any other situation where (outside of military dress) it could actually be usefull. |
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If you're going to wear a beret for supercool 80s euro commando look, wicked. Break it in. It looks like a chef's hat. Cut the liner out and put it on in the shower. Let it dry on your head or similar shaped/sized object.
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Just do what feels right mate ;) |
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RITZ you need to rock what you think looks badass in your eye.. not anyone elses.. for example.. the deltoid protector i put on my vest.. ya of course I used a MOLLE leg panel but it works and I think it looks good ... so dude you keep rocking that Baret.. if you don't want to use plates who cares... and so on and so forth. If this is the kit that works for you then keep on using it! |
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Tacticool AK...drum mag...oh my eyes THEY BLEED.
Everything else looks top notch, but dont show your socks :) |
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Well, apart that PMC's are forbidden to wear any military camouflage, eg ACU.
That is, to be accurate. But yeah, sure it's airsoft do what you like. |
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The American Tier1 look like merc for me ! I know they are Special Forces..... But merc are special forces too !
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They aren't special forces. Some may come from a special forces background but it wouldn't be a high number.
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Surpisingly enough...having sat on a Trans Pacific flight next to one....they are often guys who can't get into the military for one reason or another.
And a number of them are also guys who were military and didn't fit back into civilian life. |
But did they are US property ? or just running for contract to contract ?
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The PMC companies based in the US are not Government or owned by the US. Some have had contracts from the US Government for different jobs overseas but they are not owned by the Government, it is still a private organization. |
Just get a black vest which holds your mags and other stuff (I wouldn't really go with a plate carrier though) and underneath just wear a tshirt or maybe some brown or greyish coloured shirt/long sleeve (or whatever else you think is comfortable). For pants I would also get some black or khaki coloured pants, just something that doesn't have a camo pattern on it. for head gear wear goggles or safety glasses that look like sun glasses and wear a black/khaki/greyish baseball cap (but not those "gangsta" Bape or G Unit crap hats).
Thats what many PMC look like in pics. Or you can dress like the guys from Army of two with their skull masks xD |
Are polo's no longer worn by merc/ PMCs?
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Wat?
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Nobody's taking away my black polos.
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Find old archived copies of 'Soldier of Fortune' or any other military history magazine. YOu'll find the weirdest pics...
I wish I still had this cover, there was this musclebound guy, with a black beret, mirror shades, and an olive drab t-shirt, blazing away with twin machine pistols. It was circa early 80's. Total action hero stuff, I kid you not. So check out old military magazines. At least you'll get a laugh out of them, and get some inspiration. |
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plaid makes the tacticool, you cant be cool withoutz the plaid. And white shemaughs tooz
@ op Pike http://airsoftcanada.com/picture.php...pictureid=6173 |
When you think about it a merc is kinda like an armed hipster, what with the plaid, and the white shemaughs :D
Lol j/k. Good looking kit |
Cigar is a must there Hannibal.
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@CR0M
I'm digging the plaid, but I think my friend here pulls it off better ;) http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5475b968.jpg |
I really wish none of you used imageshack seeing as this thread started in '06 and so much of it is gone.
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From what I've heard the majority of guys doing contract work wear gear comparable to the american military if able to do so. Apparently certain companies have policies that can make that impossible, but the british companies encourage their employees to emulate american military uniforms (not directly, but using civilian companies that have similar camo patterns, etc.) this has two benefits. 1: everyone looks like their on the same side, so less chance of american soldiers lighting you up, and 2: You create a much lower profile in regards to any potential media attention/local attention. It takes more than an initial glance from a reporter to make the connection. By all accounts though contracting companies are working more and more at shifting their "image" from guys gnucci'd up in tac gear while wearing polo shirts and jeans to essentially pure emulation of standing military forces (PSD in non-warzones aside).
Just what I've gleaned/ my two cents. |
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