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Russianboy June 20th, 2006 14:16

Duster gas?
 
I've been looking for this on the forums for a good amout of time.

What is "Duster gas"

Do I need to buy an adapter?

Is it HFC-134A? Like how green gas is propane?

Give me a link for the "duster gas".

pufnstuf June 20th, 2006 16:01

you know the junk you use to clean keyboards and what not with? thats duster, and most times you need an adapter to put it into your mags. it can be bought at any walmart or similar store.

teddybear June 20th, 2006 16:48

duster adapter.... Illusion mite have a few..made by airsoft innovations.. about 15 bucks or so.

duster gas.. ur gonna hafta find a place that still sells tetraflouroethane and not difluoroethane. the diff is that di will be lower pressure than the tetra. they're trying to take tetra off the shelves.. so.. ya..

Hint: anybody who wants to use duster like me.. try to goto computer shops or soemthing to c if htey have tetra, becuae its a higher pressure, it will prob clean slightly better, cause so far, thats the only place i have found tetra-based duster.

thephenom June 20th, 2006 18:06

http://www.ascarmoury.com/product_in...roducts_id=346

Russianboy June 20th, 2006 18:14

Like this?


Duster



So like you un screw the top and put on the adapter?

Captain Tenneal June 20th, 2006 18:21

You are looking specifically for HFC134A, marked as 1,1,1,2 Tetrafluoroethane. Certain brands like 'Belkin 'The Blaster' and The Source's Duster gas are prime candidates, just make sure it's tetra.

Do NOT get 1,1-Difluoroethane. It has a much lower pressure and has been reported to corrode seals inside the magazine.

And yes. Often times you may have to break the top off of the can to get to the nib, but that's all you have to do. One thing of note, make sure the can is STEADY and you gas it perfectly straight, I've broken roughly four nibs off of my cans of duster just by tilting it the wrong way, pushing and having the nib break in two. At which point you can salvage it, but there's a good chance of getting frostbite from the leaking liquid.

Russianboy June 20th, 2006 18:39

Dose this end up being cheaper then like the HFC-134a that airsoft stores sell?

Starlight June 20th, 2006 18:49

Although I'm not sure about US airsoft retailers, I would venture a guess that yes it would be cheaper in the long run, once you purchase the adaptor that was shown to you in a previous post by "thephenom".

R.A.T.M._JLD June 20th, 2006 18:58

Do you need to use lobe (like propane) and how would ya use it?

Russianboy June 20th, 2006 19:07

HFC-134a= $10 for 450ml

Autumn June 20th, 2006 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.A.T.M._JLD
Do you need to use lobe (like propane) and how would ya use it?

Yes you need to lube just like propane. Just put a drop or two of silicone oil (can be found at most hobby stores or at airsoft innovations) in the adapter nozzle about every 6 - 8 mags. Also make sure to lube every time you use a mag 6 - 8 times, not the gun. I have 2 mags for my Hi-Capa and I guess I kept putting the oil in the same mag. The neglected mag started having problems with the valve staying open once released. The mag internals need the oil just as much as the gun.

teddybear June 21st, 2006 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.A.T.M._JLD
Do you need to use lobe (like propane) and how would ya use it?

Yes you need to lube just like propane. Just put a drop or two of silicone oil (can be found at most hobby stores or at airsoft innovations) in the adapter nozzle about every 6 - 8 mags. Also make sure to lube every time you use a mag 6 - 8 times, not the gun. I have 2 mags for my Hi-Capa and I guess I kept putting the oil in the same mag. The neglected mag started having problems with the valve staying open once released. The mag internals need the oil just as much as the gun.

u cant drop silicone oil into a duster adapter.. u need to drop it directly into the mag itself... trust me on this.. i use duster... hahha

Autumn June 21st, 2006 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddybear
u cant drop silicone oil into a duster adapter.. u need to drop it directly into the mag itself... trust me on this.. i use duster... hahha

I put a few drops into the adapter nozzle before I fill the mag and it work fine for me. You can use any way you want as long as you get the silicon mixed with the gas in the mag. To each there own.

TheHandicapper June 22nd, 2006 20:21

At www.ww2airsoft.com in the articles/reviews section, you can learn how to build an adaptor so you can get hfc 134a at any autoparts store.

Russianboy June 22nd, 2006 20:46

Thanks!:)

How do you add silicone to that?

Autumn June 23rd, 2006 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHandicapper
At www.ww2airsoft.com in the articles/reviews section, you can learn how to build an adaptor so you can get hfc 134a at any autoparts store.

That is a pretty damn handy link. I think I will still prefer the AI adaptor, but that looks like a fantastic alternative and I think I will have to try it, even if just for fun.

MadMax June 23rd, 2006 10:26

Haha, I like that article.

Unfortunately the 134a source they're using is available only in the US. I considered developing an adaptor for automotive AC cans, but they're not here in Canada. They're also predosed with lubricants and line cleaners for car AC. I'm not sure if they're compatible with airsoft materials as they're not silicone oil.

peacethroughpower September 22nd, 2007 06:26

Hey fellas im in australia and im having trouble working out what is exactly in these gas dusters (Tetrafluoroethane, 134a)

I have a can called "dust away" which describes the propellant as hydrocarbon and i think is the right composition. Another can called CO cleaner whose propellant is carbon dioxide. What is this stuff lol. I assumed that they use the same gas in these component cleaners in this country but who knows what theyre putting in it?

peacethroughpower September 22nd, 2007 08:25

I just found out hydrocarbon is Liquified Petroleum Gas (LPG), propane, butane, Propylene, or a mixture of propane and butane, depending on the seasons

carbon dioxide is used in some airguns and paintball guns

so yeah look carefully at what is actually in your gas duster

Greylocks September 22nd, 2007 10:22

Carbon dioxide is CO2. Propane can be used in gas guns (also called Green Gas). Read some more, it's been discussed to death.


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