Penalty for carrying an airsoft gun - what would it be?
 

Ok say like just on a chance of really bad luck you were going to go over to a friends house to show him your new GBB or you were meeting up with some guy to sell it to after work or school or whatever and you just stuck it in your backpack like obviously not where anybody is going to see it or had it in your car or something like that. Just bad luck strikes and you got pulled over or something or some guy decides that he's going to search you for whatever reason and he find what to him probably is a real handgun. Once it's established this is just an airsoft gun etc. etc. could you get in any sort of legal trouble over being in possession of this thing in a public place? I always get worried when I stick this thing in my car or times when I've sold a GBB and you end up meeting the guy at the parking lot of some mall or whatever. Am I legally doing anything wrong in such an instance?

Simply shakes head!

what do you mean? It's simple question no need to be all sarcastic, I just dont understand what I'd be expected to do? Go get police approval to sell an airsoft gun or hire a security guard to take it from place to place because I'm going to get arrested for having a legal piece of property in public just because people fear the idea of guns? I'm not flashing it around and carrying it on a holster on my belt.

Do you flame retardant clothing? If so, I'd suggest putting it on...

Is this a cruel joke on a saturday afternoon? You are a complete idiot.!?!

honestly guys I'm just wondering, I'm not carrying it around on a holster, but since you always hear of instances of this kind of thing in the media, what would be the proper method of transporting an airsoft gun from place to place? Sorry if I don't have years and years of experience doing this kind of thing.

"Look out Radioactive Man! My brain is exploding again!"

Forget years and years of experience, how aobut some common sense? Don't do it in public places? Using a locked pistol case with a trigger lock on the GBB?

in a gun case, locked...

You MUST treat it like a REAL firearm.That means in jail you will be chased with REAL *****is.

are you kidding me... So I can go to jail for being in possession of something that isn't even illegal to own? Wow that makes a lot of sense. Unless I lock it in some big fancy 300 dollar case that's fire-proof and weld proof and whatnot.

do i look like im kidding??? as rawmeat said: You MUST treat it like a REAL firearm.

300$??? more like 17$ for a pistol case and 30-40$ for a gun case at CT

Wow... 333 posts... im half evil :P

Try walking down the street with a butcher knife, its totally legal. Darwin!! DArrwin!!!

You won't go to jail, but you'll probably lose the gun. We didn't say you'd go to jail.

Pistol cases are not $300, nor are locks for it and the trigger.

You asked us for how to do this legally, properly. Either listen and learn, or keeping doing stupid.

I'd like to see the legal papers for that kind of thing. You are allowed to carry air rifles and pistols around in your vehicle however you like so long as they are unloaded and have no C02 in them, and they are way more dangerous than airsoft guns. What the difference between having it in a gun case and having it in a place where it is totally non-visible, unloaded, in it's box, inside a bag or something like that.

Experience isn't what's needed. You need brain cells, and basic litteracy skills to read before you post such a dumb question. You should know better than to ask that here. To answer your question before you become fully engulfed in fire and brimestone.... The gun should be transported in a locked case, prefferably in the trunk. It should never be displayed in public. Its idiots that don't do that which are the ones we see in the media. BTW.... have you met Greylocks yet? If not, you soon will... Have a nice day (giggles feindishly)

I didn't say I displayed it in public you're trying to mislead my words around. Well I think this all sounds fishy I'll have to consult with someone who has more legal advice before I make a final decision. Thanks for your help those who actually had info for me rather than trying to make themselves feel big by insulting a newb like me.

Look it is an illegal replica. end of the line.
Car trunk and all loked up.
The police will deal like its a real firearm.

The danger from an airsoft gun is as much in it's appearance, as it is in it's ability. And Danny, I wasn't calling YOU an idiot.

but this doesn't look like a real gun?

http://www.compasseco.com/shop/images/cp88.jpg

I thought that the law stated that a replica weapon is defined as something that looks like a gun but does not discharge any projecticle at all, yet airsoft guns do that, so legally they could not be considered a replica firearm. It's all legalese. So many loopholes and indiscripinsies.

I don't get it, you'd think transporting something that looks exactly like a firearm with a mere $30 worth of box and locks to prevent it being found just sitting at the bottom of your backpack by some airsoft-ignorant police officer is "fishy"?

OH SHITZ BOYS, HE'S ON TO US! HE KNOWS WE PRESENT THE BOX AND LOCK INDUSTRIES!

No your not... every rifles and pistol should be in a locked gun case when transporting them in your vehicle, even pellet guns

''the Criminal Code requires that reasonable precautions be taken to use, carry, handle, store, transport, and shipped them in a safe and secure manner.''

Not true, I've actually had this checked with a police officer. A air rifle or pistol that fires at <500 fps is not at all considered a replica firearm or a real firearm as one that fires above that speed is. Therefore, you can have it in your vehicle however you like so long as it is not loaded and contains gas in the case of Co2 weapons, obviously it's good sense to keep it out of sight but there are absolutely no legal requirements for you to have some locked gun case for it. That's the fact.

In the blink of an eye, so cop will not stop to see if it's real or not, he will defend himself from what he sees as a threat to his life. If he were to stop everyone who had what looked like a firearm in his hand to inspect it to see if it's real or not, he'd be taking his life into his hands the one time it was real in the hands of someone who was ready to use it. He just wants to go home at the end of the day, and anything that looks like a threat to that will be dealt with using whatever means he deems neccessary, including shooting you. Contrary to popular belief, cops DO NOT want or like to shoot people, and most find it traumatic to have to do so (afterwards). Don't put a cop in a potential spot. He has a family same as you that he'd like to go home to.

Looks like you just answered your own question.Now run along.

DO NOT BRING IT TO SCHOOL, DO NOT BRING IT TO THE MALL. IF YOU GET RANDOMLY SEARCHED BY A SECURITY GUARD YOU ARE SCREWED

I don't get it Danny. You come to us because you believed that there is the potential for legal trouble in transporting a GBB in nothing but a backpack. We tell you there is and how not to get in trouble. You turn around and try to argue that it's perfectly legal to do so. So why did you come to us in the first place?

duh for the millionth time I never said that I'm carrying around an airsoft gun on my belt or walking down the street with it in my hand. Is he going to shoot me to death when he finds an unloaded airsoft gun in a box in the back of my car? I understand what you mean but you keep insinuating like I'm flashing it around in public and whatnot.

How is locked in a gun case different from inaccessible and out of sight? In either case he'll come across it first and I'm not going to lunge for it...

You talk like if you know the answer.... gun case at all times! period!

I never once said that are walking around with it, but that is exactly why it needs to be in a locked gun case. Try this one on for size, your car gets broken into. The gun wasn't in a locked case. Some asshole uses it to hold up a bank. Either he or someone else gets shot by a real weapon in the course of that crime. Guess who's on the hook now buddy?!....

Well I'm talking about pellet guns, which legally fall into a different category since their legality is undisputed by law. Airsoft guns seem to fall into a unique legal category which is difficult to determine. I think that it would be smarter for those who actually value the sport to take a stand and push for more reasonable measures rather than clamming up and just accepting all the legal stuff imposed that doesn't make any sense. Again, I'm not saying that you should walk around town with your leg holster on, but take for example a cop searches your car and sees a locked gun case. He's going to want to see what's in there I'm sure. When he sees what looks like a real gun in there is he going to be like "oh well that's nice of you to lock it away" or "where are your PAL papers". If you establish right away that it isn't a real firearm and it's in a box no magazine in side, slide retracted to show that it is unloaded, and you have it somewhere inaccessible to you and out of sight, I'd say that would place a cop more at ease than trying to make it seem like you are carrying a real gun around in your trunk.

Come on... are you now going to argue that your 30 dollar gun case with a lock on it is rock solid and some guy who breaks into your car would take it home and never ever be able to get inside? That's like saying that legal firearms owners should be responsible for murder if someone robs their house then kills someone with one of their guns. Who's being illogical now.

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/compliance...letin-19_e.asp

Read and learn:

Air Guns and Air Soft Guns
Air guns with a velocity of less than 500 feet per second are not considered firearms for licensing and registration purposes. For most other purposes, however, these air guns are considered to be firearms rather than replicas if their projectiles can cause serious injuries. Air guns that look like real firearms but that cannot cause serious injury fit the definition of a replica. In some cases, ballistic studies may be necessary to determine if a particular air gun can cause serious injury.

Some devices commonly known as "air soft" guns may qualify as replica firearms. For example, following a thorough assessment and a review of ballistic studies, the Chief Scientist for Firearms at the RCMP's Central Forensic Laboratory has determined that a line of electric guns, spring guns and gas-powered guns produced by the Tokyo Marui company are replica firearms because:

They closely resemble real firearms in size, colour, appearance and configuration, and
The projectiles that they fire are not likely to cause serious bodily injury.
Again, various makes and models may have to be assessed on a case-by-case basis

Difference being, if a police officer comes across a locked gun case, he'll ask what's inside. If a police officer comes across something that looks just like a real gun sitting at the bottom of a bag, he will ask you, after placing his hand on his sidearm, to step away from the car and keep your hands in the open. He will not check to see whether it's a real gun or not until after you're cuffed, because if you have one, you might have another. And from the information he currently has, you've already broken the law by improperly transporting a firearm.

And in a backpack wouldn't be considered a consealed weapon because?

And BTW after being here for almost 3 months, you should have read the faqs...

If the weapons are stored according to the law, the owners of the weapons are not responsible. A person is responsible if they don't take all reasonable precautions as proscribed according to law.

It's inside the original box though say for example. Real guns don't come in flashy looking cardboard boxes with chinese writing and bright colours on them. Like in the end I'd say that either way is going to get you cuffed and your gun taken in away in most cases.

And if this guy who says that maybe airsoft guns do actually qualify as replica firearms, then they would be outrightly illegal because the Canadian Firearms Center clearly states that:

"Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are prohibited and cannot be brought into Canada."

So if what you've just posted is true, then having an airsoft gun in your car no matter how you carry it is breaking the law since you are in possession of a prohibited item.

Danny, when everything and everyone points to yes and you still say no, maybe, just maybe you're wrong on the matter. Think about it, you've been shown the law on the matter, what a cop says is immaterial on the matter. I've had a cop tell me that I could turn left off a two way street onto a one way street at a red light. You can not do this how ever, and I would have been facing a ticket if a different cop saw me and the defence "But a cop said I could do it" doesn't hold in court.

And unless you're crossing the border into canada or flying in from another country your line about being prohibited and cannot be brought into Canada is not applicable.

Transport the gun like it's a real gun, this is common sense. You asked for the advice on that, you were told, arguing against that advice isn't going to change anything and just makes you look like a moron. A 2 point warning has been issued for trolling.

Darwin just shot himself out of embarrasment.

Ummm on a slight side note, thats EXACTLY what the anti-gun lobby in Canada is essentially pushing for. When someone breaks into a person's apartment, and spends a weekend cutting through a 3000 lb security vault in order to steal the collection of guns inside, its totally illogical that they should charge the gunowner with unsafe storage. Yet it happened only a month or two months ago in Ontario.

For that matter, read some of the sticky notes regarding legality of airsoft. There IS no straight answer, which is why we choose to err on the side of basic common sense and caution.

The current state of things like gun ownership or airsoft is such that things ARE illogical, and don't make any sense whatsover. It doesn't change the notion that for the time being, until legislation changes clearly addresses airsoft, that the majority of the airsoft community believes in and practices safe gun handling...even if these guns are toys.

If you don't like the answers, too fucking bad. Don't ask a question expecting to hear what you want to hear.