first time players mistakes
 

what would you guys say is the biggest/most frequent mistake made by first time players?

Accidental Disccharges in teh safe zone, and not making use of barrel plugs/ condoms, that would render said discharges a non-danger.

Being mistaken for someone who knew what he was doing.


Wait, that still holds true.

1. Leaving the barrel condom on while in-game.
2. Forgetting to take your goggles off your forehead and onto your eyes while in the game area.

Funniest mistake I saw was a noob at PBC put there paintball mask on upside down.

Forgetting to put their goggles on when they go onto the field.

Friendly fire (keep your stupid finger off the trigger).

Being afraid to get down cuz the ground is all icky.

Getting lost in the woods.

Taking off your goggles while I'm playing beside you. Last time that happened, I slapped the kid on the head. Rory never forgot it.

Yep, taking goggles off. I usualy warn newbies at the begining of the day, if I see it happen, their gone for the day. Try again next time.

Shooting at people WAY out of range.

Friendly Fire

Over shooting

Wearing running shoes out onto the field (once dress shoes)

uhhh thinking no one is notices when they dont call hits.

talking way too loud while "in country"
returning probing fire
thinking we cant see you behind that sappling
shoving the muzzle into the dirt in every single trench

Not really mistakes but say surprises:

Discovering that side-scrolling and bunny-hopping don't work in airsoft as well as they do in Counterstrike. Another big disappointment - no health packs and Save button :)

not reading the FAQ and asking stupid questions....

What?! Thats not cool? http://i.pbase.com/v3/57/515757/2/44990279.245_4569.jpg (thats me by the way)

Let's see, it all revolves around not reading the basics first.

Showing up in clothing that screams "I'M HERE!!!"
Shooting everything that moves, friend, foe, leaves...
Yapping so much that even if you miss the funky clothes, you can simply aim at their voice and hit them all (they gather in bunches).
Yapping when 'dead' so much that players still in the field cant hear anything else.
Running screaming across the field saying "You cant hit me!"... two seconds before they swallow a BB.
Shooting your partner, the guy who'se right behind you covering your ass. (I know, said something like that already).
Removing goggles, usually a fraction of a second before you get a burst in the face that was launched your way 2 seconds ago...
Extreme stupidity with loaded guns in the staging area.
Truly stunning mechanical ineptness (watch a newbie open a mechbox for the first time when they claim they know it all. To add insult to injury, watch this happen outdoors at a staging area. Much fun ensues).
Getting lost in a 4 acre woodland, when to the immediate north is a major road, and in any other direction is a swamp. (What do you mean you're going into woodlands and cant tell where North is?)
Showing up to a game with everything imaginable, except a charged battery.

Of course, again, never Ever reading anything.

Oh, by the way... I've personally witnessed all of the above.

Honestly? If it's totally stupid and moronic, it's been done.

Watching a kid get mercied with a rubber knife. He was armed like nobody's business too. Just to shocked to shoot I guess.

More of a pet peeve of mine, but noobs tend to yap non stop on their newly purchased FRS radios.

STFU. It's a radio, not IRC.

lol.. im glad i didnt do any of those during my 1st game.. except maybe i over-shot.. but never hit a team mate..

oh ya.. 1 round i ran out of BBs.. and i didnt have the bb bag on me.. so i asked a guy on my team if he had extra.. he didnt have any.. anyway after the round was over i realized that i forgot my mag with him..

Saying to everyone: "I'm going to take them all down SWAT style" and yapping about how good they are. And than seeing them rush like a paintball clown and getting shot up by multiple people in the first 30 seconds of the game.

That happend every 2 games actually.

And the classic of : "I played paintball for X number of year, so I'm good..."

Or an other classic: "I was in the cadets, so I know how to do it..."

You tell them to stay low but instead walks wondering how many stars are there in the sky.

Talking about how l33t of a sniper they are and buying a VSR-10 or the like right off the bat to play with. Then getting bored when they get hosed down with any AEG and quitting.

not knowing the rules of the game.

One of the corporals in 767 dearman, an air cadets squadron down here is like that. doesnt play airsoft, but applies it to everything else lol.

ive gotta read this thread over and over... so when i start to play, i dont screw up and get a bad rep from the get-go

my favorite is the i hunt, or i was in the military/reserves, so you guys are gonna get beat bad and then watch said player get his ass kicked just about every game he shows up for. thats not to say anything bad about our reserve/soldiers training, nor am i trying to trash hunters, but, just cause you have the training, or hunt deer doesnt mean you will rock in airsoft.

i do like it when new players spend all thier time talking on the feild as well and while we havent had an incedent with a player discharging his gun in the safezone, we did have an eye shot because of unsecured glasses.

:angel:

One of the classic mistakes of "experienced" people is to not realize just how different airsoft guns are from the real thing.
They expect high accuracy, long ranges, etc.

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Here's one

Yelling and waving at you when your concealed position, during the a firefight. I remember one game this guy kept Yelling and waving at me to come run back and "help" . 8O

Or realizing they did'nt put on enough bug juice and they are swaping themselves making all kinds of noise during the game :hammer:

War-Lock

Camping.

Getting stuck with Game Hosting duties. I mean, wtf?!! Thanks for bailing out on me, ice-man! *lol*

Okay, so maybe that's not too common. But a common issue with new players is that, they tend to reload their mags while out in the open. This ain't Counter-Strike, geez... you don't get multiple hits/health meter. Get some cover if you're going to reload! *looking at Predator's direction* hehe

Bingo! That sumurise it best. especially about the gear.

Keeping is key on him and loosing them on the fiel... I've seen it too many time...

Wasting long full auto shots whenever they can and when the ennemie come they have empty mags..

Yeah, this one is bad.

When new players think their camo will keep them totally hidden but haven't learned the art of moving slowly or quietly. Also, when they hide behind a tree that you are hiding behind when nobody saw you go there in the first place. (now everyone's looking at you) :smack:

Hehe, true true... how about when they use the l337 VOX feature of their new radio and all you can hear is an out-of-shape kid, huffing and puffing while firing his AEG in a long burst with about 3-5 seconds of dry-firing. :lol:

Bulletproof n00bs

That doesn't just apply to noobs... it's even more irritating when an experienced player does it.

In my experience, those don't last long. At least at the places where I play.

Last winter milsim. Lost keys in the snow:

http://24.202.157.4:8080/nokeys.jpg

That's what happen when you have 4 people to get home and don't want to have the car full of guns and gear towed to town.

EDIT: For the record, it's not my car, nor my keys, nor me. It was a new guy hehe.

Now that truely sucks ass...

Leaving the safety on! Set up the perfect ambush, pop out and realize your gun isn't shooting for some reason, get hosed by the whole other team. Happened to, uhm, a guy I know :wink:

Leaving the barrel plug on while taking the first shots.
Leaving the safety on while trying to take the first shots.
Friendly fire.
Not shooting enemies because you think they're friendly.
Getting lost. ;)

I haven't played to many outdoor milsims, but with indoor games, because of the close proximity of your opponents, newbs tend to be jumpy and if surprised will unload point blank, whether your a friendly or not.

That's my car in the picture above. After reading this section it's not so bad because the lost of my keys is my only newbie big mistake ( I think )

-thinking they are gods gift to airsoft.
-Setting up a business and ordering guns from the US thinking that the red tip and removed trademarks are all that is needed.
-"upgrading" their AEG with no idea what's realy needed...(I've seen so many PDI 170 with plastic bushing and stripped gears and pistons I feel like crying)
-Buying instead of trying and asking questions (Guilty....)
-Trying to convince me that CA guns an MIMH batteries are the shitz.. yep the are indeed shit....

You guys where great!

Haven't read all of this over but calling hits.

First game I played I was so nervous that I only called about 2/3 of my hits. Nobody said anything to me about it but I felt like a total moron... live and learn. I guess that people are a bit forgiving with new guys though, which is nice! Just make sure you clean up your act if you decide to play again (although the nervousness goes away pretty fast).

Freakin Rambos.

I think not calling some hits is a recurring problem, specially if they are really light hits when you are walking through brush woods.
"Was that a twig?"
Most of us are probably guilty of that one, when we have to wonder...
We eventually learn to accept anything as a possible hit. Heck, it's a game.

Hey, NiMH batteries have come a long way in the past couple of years... Me and a teammate's NiMH batteries were working MUCH better during a -15C game than most of the group's NiCad batteries, i.e. there was NO noticeable effect on run time or ROF due to the cold. NiCads in general were running MUCH slower, and many people had to switch halfway through the day.

That's a big peeve of mine.


Other than that I don't have many huge peeves for new players because they eventually learn, and most of the ones i've encountered weren't that bad. Most of the mistakes they make will be corrected within a few games anyway.

I'm not a noob by most means, but I do have simple gear. My kit isn't all that expensive, i've got a cheap vest and few mags, woodland jacket/pants,boots, my AEG, and a cheap side arm, the basics. That's all i've got, but I find I enjoy it as much as all those folks who go full out with their kits.

Wearing orange shirts and mirrored aviator glasses on a warm sunny day ... oh and giggling incessantly just before you shoot someone.

Absolutely nothing wrong with this. I do it before, during, and after I shoot someone.

Well, to be absolutely honest with you, I too giggle almost the entire time I play airsoft, especially while stalking someone. It is just so hard not too. :lol:

Sprinting through rooms in CQC yelling "mercy! mercy! mercy!". Annoying to no end.

In large outdoor games, I already saw newbs run as far as they can and hide so they last the longest possible without getting hit...soon to realize that time has passed and the game is probably over, as well as being lost

First (and so far only) game at PBN, I'm not 100% confident I called all my hits... Arg. Def. Streamlining the gear next time. Like, super-streamlining. 1 triple drop plus one in the gun (and two for piston on belt plus loaded pistol), and that's it.

And oh. A fucking SLING. :lol:


damage: I dunno man, I did the rambo thing, kept the whole other team down for a good two to three minutes... And I was in the wide on top of that. :o

Im not exactly a newb, but i had my barrel condom on and was shooting down the target range wondering why the fuck i couldnt see the bb's fly. Then somebody told me about it :S oh well. IM A NEWB

Getting shot while trying to turn off the safety.

well had my first game on the 4 (stargate game) and to name a few of my mistakes:
-Shooting with my barrel plug still on :shock:
-not having a sling when im holding my gun a good couple of hours. when i wanted to do anything i had to put my gun down. :neutral:
-tho i had amazing antifog goggles my left spectacle lens was always fogged up. Ill get contacts under v82slo's suggestion.
-gun kept jamming think its a problem with my hicaps :hammer:

OHG! I have a player on my team that fits all these criteria. ive never brought him to a sanctioned game, but holy shit he doesnt realize that its an airsoft gun shooting a round projectile at 300fps, and he fricken argues with me about what stuff will do what to his aeg because "hes been shooting guns since he was 9" - hey news flash! its an aeg not a gun! hes bought so much walmart crap just to have stuff rather than waiting to go buy stuff from the army surplus, when you shoot him he "doesnt feel it cuz theyre only flying at 350fps, thats why you NEED a tight bore barrel and new spring and a silencer"
ya total noob, i cant wait to bring him to a sanctioned game and let the dogs have at him cuz he wont listen to the rest of the team, esspecially about calling hits.

Not winding hi-caps and wondering why there is nothing comming out....:P

Always bring SPARE like AEG and Battery...lol

not taking that pre-game shit and having to leave before noon

man, just go in your pants.

I would personally slap Droc if he ever did that during a gameday. And then I would say "I didn't know you were into the Scat Porn"

I must admit all of the newcomers' mistakes are valuable to a newcomer. I shall keep these pages as my Bible of Things Not to Do.

This also proves that we learn from our mistakes.

[QUOTE=SockMonkey]Wearing running shoes out onto the field (once dress shoes)[QUOTE]

To you and anyone else who thinks it's necessary to go all out in some military uniform and tac gear, I don't think so.

I found out after trying several pieces of gear that I can't stand vests, things that hang on my legs, most slings and I find most boots to be way to overkill. That's just for gear. As for uniforms, I would feel like sort of a poser wearing a uniform I don't deserve and while it adds realism, I'm not for that but it's cool if others want to be. I'm about realism for my guns like metal bodies and such.

So if you see me out there in dress shoes/running shoes, dress pants or just any old pair of something and a sexy black shirt like Julian, it's not because I'm horribly prepared noob-softer, it's because I choose to and it is truley what works best for me. Not to mention stylish to me hehe.

And let us not forget pauv-softers. Mabey they can't afford gear. So don't judge a player by his gear.

[QUOTE=Rumpel Felt][QUOTE=SockMonkey]Wearing running shoes out onto the field (once dress shoes)
Uniforms let you conceal yourself. I can't wait to shoot you for dressing like Julian. I don't think you know what you are talking about, but that is just my opinion.

Ha. That's the thing, people think their camo gives them such an advantage. It does especially shit all in day time at least when you're being looked at through my sights and at night, a moving blob is a moving blob. Camo may work for fooling the visually impaired but it doesn't do that much agaist someone who can make things out clearly at 100m distance. I'd say the only place camo becomes somewhat useful is in deep forested areas. But I should have mentioned, I don't play in any of those so it doesn't matter.

It is the person and only the person that makes the player. Not the gun, the attire, the gear or any other crazy accesories you can think of.

Where do you live? Where do you play? You need to come and play in the forest with grown ups, and then you will understand that high heels and a tutu just won't cut it. If you PM me I'll let you come and play with us. Your opinion will change in 5 minutes. (P.S. for your safety leave your birkenstocks at home.)

DOnt be an ass preston. Rumpel is right. If uniforms are uncomfotable, they are not a necessity. this is a game, not cadets, not the military. If you wanna wear uniforms, go for it. Some people dont like being decked out for hours on end, in big boots, and army clothes. dont agree witht hat? too bad. to each his own.

I guess I see both their points of view because camo in a speedball field is virtually useless. Quick movement and cover fire mean more than concealment. We play in both speedball and bush so camo comes in handy in the bush. So, depending on where you play will dictate what you should wear. We do play a miltary simulation so why not attempt to look the part.

Preston, you have the exact attitude I was trying to point out. YOU sound like a noob would......com3 pl4y wit da r34l m3n 1n da fizorest, w3 ar3 teh uber 1337.

You arn't anymore special than me because you play milsim. Key half word: SIM. Either way we are both playing pretend. I just don't want others assuming people are idiots or "noobs" because of the way they dress.

Rumpel, if he keeps bugging you bout it just say ur playing a cuban, or a guy from miami with the nice shoes and a slik shirt :P

I said adults, I don't discriminate against women, even though you clearly dress like one.

I find uniforms to usually be more rugged than regular clothing, so it can take more of a beating in the field; they won't tear as easily, and I don't mind getting them dirty. As for footwear, comboots are not always great. I prefer to have a light, breathable shoe...a Jungle Boot is alright for this, but you can find some lighter hiking shoes which do just as well (although they can get priceyer than army boots).

I find sidearms to be pretty superfluous; there is rarely a reason to put your AEG away (if your AEG is small enough) to draw your pistol, unless you're planning on humiliating someone. Fact is, a collapisble stock is, imho, better than carrying a pistol and mags as a fallback for CQB. The extra weight isn't worth it.

As for first time mistakes gameplay wise, I'd say not moving is a big one. Not playing tight is another. There's no point in staying in one spot unless you've got the perfect ambush set up, and even then, you only stay long enough to get your kill. AEGs aren't generally accurate at long range, so you need to move to get your kill. As for not playing tight, I find most people, even people who've been playing a while, tend to stick their elbows out when they aim, or stick their knees out while crouching...

Haha that's a good idea mate.

He can keep thinking he's uber, it just shows his maturity when he can't accept someone elses prefs. And no, they arn't dressing like a woman.....I never said that so where'd it come from. However....$20 may spell a different story. :cheers:

I like treadstones' idea of Movie softing. anyways way off topic here.

Damn!!! Only $20 to get you to dress like a woman? That's cheap. Would you perform at birthdays and other parties? PM me with a quote.

For any of you noobs actually trying to remember any of this, I only have one thing to say.

If you think about all the ways you're going to fuck up, you're not going to have any fun, nor are you going to be any good.

Go out. Make the damn mistakes. And learn.

bring your common sense with you and remember its not counterstrike

lol, if it was cs I would be throwing HE grenades and flashbangs all over the place.

the way some people shoot.....

That is so true.

P.S. I'm not a n00b at cs or airsoft, so don't start thinking that. :kill:

a thing that I have noticed is some first timers don't realize when they are hit.. especially if they are wearing baggy clothing.

CS: The real-life story

dude 1: Hey, that army guy said he'd give me twin Desert Eagles, and all I got was a backpack full of sand. That fag!
dude 2: Did someone say something about lag?

LOL LOL

"Insert picture of me mooning this thread here"

Yes, I will perform birthdays. Other parties.....don't be expecting me to provide womanly services. You guys can take care of that one. :confused: Dressing for the cash is as far a I go.

Greylocks, Is right.. I honestly believe him when he says he has seen all that. I mean for every rule or law, Theres some idiot that did something in order for it to be made. The one thing in my life that I fear the most, is being the reason a law is made.

As for Noobs not knowing who to shoot. Ive been shot by a new guy because he didnt know what team I was on. And it was CADPAT vs. Everyone else.. and I was in OD.

And as for the running around yelling "you can't hit me!" Ive seen Veterans do that. And its still funny.

You guys complain alot about Noobs, but you gotta remember.. Everyone started out as one.. and they are fun to abuse. Even though we do stupid things from time to time. We don't always know better. Thats why you guys gotta help us out from time to time. Take us under your wing, show us how its done. And then lead them blindly into an ambush.. LOL..

And as for the taking googles off in the field.. thats kinda like this..
http://www.elephantlist.com/humor/fu...torcyclist.jpg
Her brain bucket is on wrong... LOL

we should have cleaned up sticky of this thread for noobs reference.

i think many if not most noob mistakes happen because people think too much of themselves and aren't really willing to listen and learn from thoes who know what they are doing.

i can't say i made any memorable mistakes my first (and only) milsim deep forest game, except for wearing a black bdu (only gear i had though) and knowing the sound of an empty mag (which prevented me from getting 2-3 amazing kills, and caused me to get shot almost point blank in the forehead :D )

i find noobs to not have enough listening/communication skills during the game, and not being ready to work as a team.

dude i know how loosing your keys at a game feels. i lost mine, i taped them with guntape then tied them to my pocket with 50lb fishing line, and i still managed to loose them.

Haha. I never lost my keys. But I sure check if they are still on me periodically.
I keep them in my pants pockets or in my tacvest pouch. I wear my keys 24/7 except when I'm sleeping in bed, so I'm used to feel them all the time.

I keep them in my inner velco pocket of my combats.. you cant get in or out of that pocket without really trying..

Personally I've done a couple dumb ones. Guilty of forgetting to remove the barrel plug. done that a couple times. Once while doing target shooting I popped in an empty mag and tried firing...at least 5 or 6 times before I realized the gun wasn't broken, just my brain :P

My personal worst was when I'd dismantled my mechbox to do some upgrades. I'd gotten images, etc of how it was supposed to look. Opened it up, found out that Version 1 boxes are a bitch to work with and reassembled it. I hooked up my battery and squeezed off a shot (no BBs loaded), seemed fine so I didn't think anything of it. 5 months later I was at the first game for the season, took out my AEG for the first time and tried firing, only to find that while the gun was firing and you could feel the air coming out the barrel, no rounds were coming out. Tore the gun apart again to later discover I didn't put the nozzle onto the tappet plate (think that's the right part) properly. *coughs* She shoots great now though!


Another awesome one was my buddy who managed to shoot himself. We were in a forest and he was shooting at me through some trees. Well he wasn't looking while he shot and fired into a tree he was hiding behind. The BB bounced off and hit him in the leg. Never gonna let him live it down. 'specially since he's in the reserves :P

Hate those. Where you're shooting at someone then your own BB ricochets back at you and hits you somewhere you dont want ;). I ve done that once...ouch.

Ya i am guilty of thinking that the range and accuracy are like real steel....... I miss my c8

Recently I was screwing around shooting at some paintballs on the ground.. when a fellow player threated to shot me. He point is gun at me, so I point mine at his groin.. all of a suddon he aimed and fired at something and in reflex. I fired a 2rd burst. right into his groin from about 3 feet away. He wasnt to impressed. He ended up shooting me in the back multiple times as I ran from him.

Looking back on it.. it was kinda funny.

Nothing beats a frustrated bunch of noobs Doing the following:

Noob: Having noobs freak out at you saying "It's not fair, you have so many mags and we only have 1!"

Me: I carry 10 locaps, loaded with ~34 rounds each. The noob was walking around with a hicap...

Noob: If we go both go on the field with one mag each, I would own you no problem.

Me: I guess you are right... dumbass

Or the good old you have so much gear it's unfair, how is having extra weight ever to my advantage?

See if I ever said or did something like that Id expect to be shot.. on the spot. Its not how much ammo you have, Its how you use the ammo you do have. Hell, Snipers tend to go out there with low ammo mags, and only a few of them and still do well in games. Its not our fault they didnt read in the forums or anywhere that your allowed to carry more then one mag.. or that its kinda required to buy more.

Sadly.. I wanna be there the next time a noob does that.. and wait for him to say hes out of ammo.. ah.. theres nothing like a target that cant shoot back..

I'll remember that :wink:

are you kidding.. me.. that would make a great game. Hunt the Noob. No guns, nothing.. just tell them to run into the game area and let them be hunted down... oohh.. I like that.. and Im sure Im not the only one.