Snipers Corner
 

I havent seen a thread related to anything and everything on the airsoft sniper, so here it goes, this is where we will post tactics/tips and tricks, and everything/anything on sniping 8-) Basically this is our little corner. And guys please no TROLLING, and please keep this related to topic.

MODS: If the same thread has already been started then delete this one.

SniperChic out.....

good idea im just getting in to sniping and anxiously wait to see how well this thread comes along.

Great. IMO, we deserve a whole section, like in some other forums.

I have this urge to post my sniper stuff again.. But I posted it all to often already.

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Yeah I second that, we should have one forum dedicated to snipers.
Instructions or articles about: Camo, using the scope with windage/elevation, stealth, suitable optics for airsoft use, and other cool stuff.

I found this one article that I thought it was a good worthy read... even though it was for real steel, it still had a lot of information. It's from AR15.COM, so the credit goes to them.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=5&t=186971

Warmongers forum has had a section 100% for sniping related info for months now. Guess we should have advertised. :oops:

Good read, and some nices photos.

I recieved a PM from one of the Mods, I personally think we should have a sniper section within the boards specifically for us airsoft snipers, in there we would be able to post anything and everything pertaining to this topic. Since we have a wealth of experience here it would be great to have this section.

So who here would like to have a "sniper section" within these boards?

I think it would be a great idea. It's nice to have useful information when you want it.

Indeed very good read, and quite informative, although this is related to real steal, it helps one understand how wind and the elements affect the bb's travel.

Maybe Paul will post an article pertaining to bb ballistics, different bb weight, brands, etc. That sure would help for those who are just getting into the role or would like to get a better understanding.

Tricks of the trade tend to remain sacred...... :salute:

Well if it helps dispell a lot of people's concept that being a sniper is all about the gun, then yeah, it's a good idea.

Alot pf people think that, this is one of the reasons I would like to see a "sniper section" within these boards. Many dont understand the role and the duties that go with it, its a different world and different style of play that is not for everyone, but theres some of us that love it :nod:

I wouldn't mind seeing a sniper specific section also.
Might even help posting and stickying a couple threads about the basic frequently asked questions about sniping in it.

I will have to talk to Paul and discuss with him about posting FAQ's and what not, it would be helpfull for the newer guys who decide that its the style of play they prefer and the veterans who would like to know more about the role and style of play.

I think a big thing to do is get a stock M24, M40 and APS2 and some different spings and chrony them to show people who are up-grading what spring will do what, it was done with eag's why not sniper rifles?
or if everyone chips in and shows what they have in there rifle then it would probably grow even faster.

I believe Paul is in the process of doing something simmilar to that, but with his APS, using different springs and sniper bb's. Its a long process but it is worth the work in the end, we will have to wait and see the results....damm winter :-(

NICE!!!...well i got a full metal m4 with a SR-16 inner barrel in it...but i cover the rest of the barrel with a custom made silencer...SNIPER ALL THE WAY!!!...lol

The M4 can be used as a counter-sniper weapon, do you plan on upgrading the M4? a BA is best for the shooter within the sniper team, I will not get into details now, it will be covered later.

I fall into this category and would very much like to see a Sniper's Section for this very reason. I've been looking into switching roles and I'm just waiting for this to take off.

We have to get Paul in here.......PAUL! where are you? he is prolly hidding somewhere.... :confused:

I beleive he is coming up with a website as well, again we will have to wait and see.

Having our section would be awesome. Should it be restrain to snipers only? I usually go on Arnie's sniper perch but have one here would be nice. I totally support the idea!

If you do restrict, I think it'd be better to just restrict posting. How else am I gunna learn about airsoft sniping with winter here? lol (Next gun I want to get is a KJW M700)

Mu honest opinion, shouldn be restricted, because im just thinking.. for the time when i actually start playing, which hopefully is only a little over a year away, i would possibly walk in here to get info on sniping. and if yo merely restrict posting, it means others have to go through all the problems of pm'ing

If I wanted to get a gas airsoft bolt action sniper rifle, it'd have to be in the tanaka lines, whereas adjusting the velocity is an option.

Tanaka M24, ACIS, or M40A1 would be my choices. Then I won't have to worry about velocity limits in different fields, I can just adjust and adopt to it.
I dunt think the KJW gas sniper rifles are adjustable.

Then again, spring sniper rifles are good too. ahhh decisions decisions.

The m700 is adjustable since it's a tanaka clone.
I'd like to know if it's cloned close enough to take the aics stock though.

I'd like to have a separate section as well. Make it easier to fill in the void of real airsoft sniper info. If I want advice or info, I never look for in on ASC cuz not enough knowledge around, or wildly varying info when there should be only one answer. I just go to Airsoft Retreat Snipers Perch and mostly get what I need there.

A Sniper section would be awesome. This way I can stop bugging Stalker with all my questions :razz:

I like the idea of a sniper's section but here's my issues with it. It's like the sniper clinic and sniper coaurse that Sha Do runs. One of the things he asks of attendees is to keep the information between the sniper crowd. This is not to create anamosity between airsoft snipers and assaulters. The point of it being that to snipe in airsoft (and be effective) is very difficult. The lessons learned on the coarse are to give the airsoft sniper an edge at acheiving proficiency. If everyone has access to that, you take away that edge. I feel the same way about a forum. If the forum discusses subjects such as basic ways to upgrade your BA and pros and cons of different sniper platforms and such, that's great. The problem I see is revealing all the information in one convenient place for everyone. Many airsoft snipers have taken the time to research real sniping techniques and training and figuring out what works for airsoft. If it gets posted up, everyone sees it and then the edge is taken away. I'm not trying to be elitest or anything like that so please don't take it that way. I'm just following the lead that Sha Do started with the clinics and courses.

Like THAT will happen! Instead of PMing me, you'll just ask the questions publically! Hehe :tup:

I would like a sniper section as I leaning more into snipering now with Airsoft
I think it is a great idea

I think everyone would welcom a "local" airsoft sniper forum. I'd totally be in.

I second that. If you really want to know how to perform well as a sniper the info is out there. No need to spoon feed it to everyone. If you don't have the patience to google it, you most likely won't have the patience to play the sniper role.

Anyone know when / where the next Sniper clinic (for beginners) might be? I live in New Brunswick, but if it's not out in BC or something, I might be able to travel for one. :)

I'd love to do something like that.

(Before anyone flames me for not searching, I have... the last one was in October, from what the results suggest. No upcoming ones listed though.)

The clinics are in Ontario since that's where Sha Do lives. As for a date, I don't know. I believe that it wouldn't be until the spring at least.

Okie, Looking to step into the "sniper" platform (well actually just try something new.) but dont want to spend that much.

Highly interested in the KJ MK1 Carbine's, but my only real question is regarding affixing a silencer to one. (To hide a longer inner barrel of course.)

Anyone have any experience with doing this sort of mod? Or know of ways to add a silencer to this gun? (As it doesnt have a threaded barrel as far as I know.)

Here's another question for the sniper group: what are you going to use as a criteria for "snipers" (specially if you restrict access to the section)?

Sweet! Road trip! :) I should have a good setup by then. I'm still working on a ghillie suit. :D

(Thanks for the info!)

Bc_k its possible to do. You can order the adaptor from overseas if you can find it in stock i believe kic bb gun carries them. You can make a silencer work on it however. You have to unscre the front sight which leave two little holes in the barrel. Make a silencer from pvc or what have you. Then make it so you can put two small screws through it to go into the outer barrel. The mk1 is utterly useless unless you get a metal hopup. the plastic one on it breaks easy, isnt sealed well and is an all around piece of crap. www.evike.com has a newer hopup its not metal but its worth a try. The barrel is a bit tricky and requires some machining knowledge. It doesnt have a standard hopup so you would have to modify a barrel to work and then dremel out the inside of the gun to allow the extra mm to fit.

Thank God there are those among us who know how to do such things. ;)

Dont worry we shall get oyur/my old gun riced up this spring and summer.

As I said before, Tricks of the trade dont get revealed, therefore the sniper section would be something like FAQ's, safety rules, and whatnot. The section is more about what the airsoft sniper is and his/her roles, this way we dont get comments like "snipers are campers" or "you use the role as an excuse to camp" , yadda....yadda...yadda. If you want to spill the beans go ahead, but remember if you run you will only die tired..... :kill: ;) if you really want to learn more about the world of airsoft sniping, do some research and talk to some of us, as im sure we will be friendly enough to talk to you about some aspects (were not friendly when we look like bigfoot, smallfoot in my case).

As I said before, airsoft sniping is not for everyone, it takes a different kind of player to play the role some veteran players can attest that, me I have lots of patience, I can remain at one location for hours if need be, some of you know me for doing that. 8-) dissapear for several hours to return with several kills, not many, but its how you got to the targets and eliminated them :tup: or eliminating them from a fair distance ;-)

That's my point. Where do you draw the line for what info get's devulged and what doesn't? You wouldn't be able to restrict access to the section. I think it would be great for posting up general info so that players interested in sniping can have a little peek into it. Just enough to wet their whistle so to speak.

I don't see any need for restriction. What you will learn reading such section won't make you a leet anti-sniper or uber killing machine with a BA rifle.

What give your thoses skills is trainning and experience. Such a section provide nothing of the two. Just information.

Exactly my idea of having a section pertaining to the airsoft sniper. There is only one way to see how dedicated one is.......thats called "the sniper Boot camp".........
part of the Sniper Creed is, Though Shall not disclose tricks of the trade.........

Yeah it was a bit of a rhetorical question. Like I'd mentioned originally, too many people out there seem to think that "sniper" is just about a bolt action rifle and a ghillie suit.

And even if it was, you still have guys with PSG-1s, G3/SG1s, SR-25s, SR-15s, SPRs, HK94/SG1s, SL8/9s and SVDs... and while they may be restricted to lower FPS limits on the field (and lets be honest here, the extra 50 FPS doesn't exactly give you a huge range advantage) would they be excluded from the sniper role?

I've seen people snipe with stock AEGs. And they were good. They were scary. They were stealthy, they could move like the wind, they had the discipline to move after taking one or two shots (instead of getting greedy), and they knew their weapon well enough to put shots on targets and not take shots they couldn't make. IMO half of "sniper" is fieldcraft.

Guns do make up an important part of it, specially in airsoft since most guns require so much work to become accurate and consistent. But too many people coming into it seem to think that just getting a BA rifle and upgrading it to 450 fps will make em an instant sniper.

So IMO maybe the section should be expanded, not only to cover some of the sniper basics, but also include sharpshooter/designater marksman roles, and maybe even spotters (if you want to cover milsim, given how so many sniper wannabes are so keen on going out and being lone wolves).

[QUOTE=SniperChic][QUOTE=SKI]thou?

[QUOTE=Man Solo][QUOTE=SniperChic]Ya....TYPO....thanks.....gotta stop inhailing all that gunpowder......

Having a thread dedicated to snipers is a good idea, but the idea of limiting who can read or post is very hard to do. You could make everyone take sha do's course but I think it would get very old having the same few people post. A better Idea would be everyone is allowed to post and have them lose that privillege with the posting of some stupid question.

I'm not suggesting we restrict the section so only snipers could see or post in it. I'm more or less suggesting that the snipers restrict some of the info they post.

Fox, I agree that training and experience is what makes a better player. I just wouldn't want people discussing tactics in depth. I enjoyed Sha Do's courses and would hate to see them unused.

As Sniper Chic said "Thou Shall not disclose tricks of the trade.........". I'd like to see that doctrine (sp?) followed by snipers.

Drake, fieldcraft is the better part of it. I agree. I also agree with the statement that if there was a sniper section on the boards, that it should include counter sniping, spotters, etc. When I take on the sniper role, I've always had a spotter. Having a sniper team makes a different approach to the game. It's fits in more with the milsim aspect of the game.

Brown brown, right? ;)

(Lord of War... Nicolas Cage...)

Not everyone is able to take that airsoft sniper course, like.. everyone out west, the maratimes, etc.

Just because you haven't taken that course, doesn't mean you should be denied access to information. You don't need to take any course to be a airsoft sniper.

I've never taken the course, but I'm sure I could be a "airsoft sniper".

Plus, I've been trained by Reserve/Reg Force Infantryman, etc in cam an concealment, fieldcraft, etc

Plus, info on upgrading different rifles, reviews, etc are all available on many sites/forums.

Also, other people can pick up different things by talking to people, trial an error, etc.




One other thing, seems liek everyone is forgetting an important part of a sniper team. The SPOTTER. He/she helps ID/find targets, provides secruity, etc, etc

As much as I am in favour of the Sniper's Corner, I also agree with this.

I think if a person has enough experience in airsoft, they should be able to judge within reason, safe engagement ranges, target acquisition and such.

I've been in airsoft long enough and my work schedule prevents me from attending many games. While I don't mind attending the Sniper Clinics/Courses/Workshops/Seminars, the reality is that there hasn't been one held in quite some time, and if one gets put together and I can't make it, no one is going to tell me I can't use my Type 96 if it falls within the host's fps limits.

There seems to be a fine line between a specialized skill and elitism as far as this topic goes. I just hope that the clinics are held soon and often. And available by correspondence for our friends in other provinces.

[QUOTE=SniperChic][QUOTE=Man Solo]damn I didnt know MP's fired that many rounds during a shift that it would make them start to go wonky with spelling errors

LOL oh you silly punisher.
i am going to have to disagree with most of the stuff in this thread thus far. i am of the persuasion that an airsoft sniper is anybody with a gun more powerful than the standard full auto fps limit. what you choose to do with what little extra range is your call.
i for one like to lead charges with my bolt action, as that extra 50ft or so of range is super useful at the beginning of an engagement and a charging sniper has remarkable "pinning" potential :) i wear a ghillie just so that i can be more half assed at hiding. it's been criticized but it frikkin works, and i dont care if people know my technique because i'm confident of it. plus if you know what people think they're to expect from you, you can fuck with their heads (my absolute favorite thing about sniping). but my personal technique is not important, what is important is the listing of the many uses an airsoft sniper may have, along with all sorts of other information in order to promote personally betterment.
which brings me to point 2: list all your secrets. there's far too many myths to kill and far too many redundancies to squash to keep shit to ourselves. there's a massive wealth of knowledge in this community and if we'd have pooled it sooner, it would be exponentially larger by now. if "assaulters" know what we know, we can use it to our advantage.
the biggest problem i see here is listing hokey ass broken telephone style information. there should be a rule that every post created for information should be either first hand information or a link to this first hand information (hence need to share). the less gassy-mouth inexperienced jabber we have, the more we will benefit from it.
reviews should contain figures. in something as insane as pushing a sperical object weighing less than half a gram 200ft in a straight line, preciseness is everything. if someone has a similar setup to someone else's posted chrony results, do them too and post them.
lets make a goddamn encyclopedia.

A correlational similarity between not using GOOGLE, and shooting someone with an airsoft gun in a preferred manner...
Hey, you should get that theory published...Might be on to something big...

On the topic at hand, I agree with manchovie.

That's my idea for the sniper section. Just a place with detailed reviews, spring charts ect.

As for the tactics info, as I said it can be googled and we shouldn't be spoon-feeding noobies who can't search. I for one would not like to play with a trigger happy kid who has no experience and no regard for minimum engagement range.


Steve_187 - There's a difference between a sniper and a DSM. A sniper must have patience and sometimes not take the shot cause it's not worth giving away you location.

Sniper:
1. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.

2.One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary

You make a good point, but my point is also simple. Its a game. People get bruses and cuts in every single (active) game played... In airsoft, sometimes people get shot from close range, it happens. People tend to complain alot in this game...If theres a questionable hit fired apon me, I will tell that person not to be a tool, and if they do it again, they get lit up by my pony...Thats the only way people will learn, not by reading faq's in a forum.

Airsoft a sport where you shoot bbs at people at a high velocoty/Rate of fire. which means, your intentionally causing that person some degree of pain. Stop bitching when a bb hits you, and start enjoying the sport for what it is. There are video games you can play if you want to be completly safe.

I think restricting a section because the 'snipers' want to remain mysterous, is completly retarded. Don't forget, your playing a fictional game here people. The ammunition you are discharging is plastic, and the people your firing them at are probably joining you after the game for wings and beer....So why hide information?

Again, your definitions are correct, but this is a game, not the military. I for one knew about airsoft before i was really connected to the internet on a regular basis. So i in fact was not atoned to the proper use of a search engine. That doesn't mean that im not able to play a sniper role....

Edit: Also, you can take shots and not give your position away in airsoft. your rifle makes a very sad excuse of a noise when fired. even if you are close enough to be heard, most of the time theres too much noise around you for a single 'plunk' to draw hordes of peoples attention...

STOP!!!!!!! Steve, you're giving too much info. Shhhhhh!

Dedicated Sniper Section, good idea.

hahaha...too much info...LOL

Gotta side with manchovie on this one. I see absolutly no reason to have restrictions on the sniper forum.. it kind of defeats the entire purpose which is to offer and discuss information on sniping. If we restrict the people that can view/post on it, how are new snipers going to ask about weapons, fieldcraft and other things? Why not just post in the gun or general forums then?

Part of the reason why you want this forum is to inform new people in the sniping scene on how to play the role or be effective for the team. You can't do that by restricting access. If you have 'secrets' you aren't willing to share, don't post it, share with others in game or pms.

I am totally in favor of the new sniper board, I have lots to ask and share as I'm sure a lot of you do as well, and a dedicated sniper board would make a great place to discuss related strategies and weapon choices without disrupting other boards with our 'strange ways' ;) And would also give a more specific location for new players to ask questions without attracting the regular flame crowd.

One thing I don't want, though I forsee it becomming is a forum dedicated to a specific group of airsoft snipers. You guys are already arguing the definition of a sniper. Airsoft snipers are nothing like real snipers because of the simple fact that the range isn't anywhere near what they would be in real life.

Some snipers like to stay invisible the entire game. some like to take out high priority targets. and others just want the thrill shooting things with a scope, even in an orange bunny suit. If we DO have a sniper forum. It should have the capacity and tolerance for all of these things. Otherwize it'll just be one large forum dedicated to the debate of the definition of an airsoft sniper.

Other than that I see no reason why we shouldn't have a sniper forum. (besides the mods will have to do some work :)

But this goes back to what some of us where trying to get across: too many people focus on snipers being about long range. Yes, snipers DO shoot long range; their accute marksmanship allows them to do so. But if we take a police sharpshooter (since we're focusing on guns and marksmanship skills more than fieldcraft skills), they don't set up across town; they set up across the street.

A huge factor in calling yourself "sniper" is fieldcraft (IMO anyway). Without it, you're just some guy with a big gun. It isn't like in the movies.

Some snipers/sharpshooters will employ 5.56x45, 9x39 (the Russian VSS, which has a reported eff. range of ~400m), or even 9x19 (HK94SG1, although granted that one didn't really take off), 45ACP (Delisle Carbine) and 22LR (IDF's suppressed Ruger 10/22).

The latter examples apply perfectly to airsoft, where stealth are paramount because the sniper is engaging targets up close, as quietly as possible.

Why don't we call sniper everyone toting a BA rifle with a scope.

That's exactly it. I think this forum should blanket the term airsoft sniper with anyone carying a sniper capable weapon regardless of their ability to stay hidden or anything else. Regardless of if you think it should be considered sniper or not, because otherwize, drakes post is exactly what we will get throughout the forum because I've seen it happen with every other sniper thread even when people are just asking about guns. (im not sayin you're wrong, I quite agree with you, just not the point)

There are other ways to play as an airsoft sniper, (or marksman if you wanna call it that) a BA scoped rifle can do much more than being used very quietly in a concealed place. You can assult with a team, pin down enemies so well they won't even stick their heads out for more than a second without even firing a shot.

I'm saying we have a division here amongst milsim snipers and skirmish snipers. And we simply can't argue about the term because that's all we'll ever talk about. So we should just accept everyone who wants to play with a long range rifle (preferably scoped) as a sniper to make everyones lives easier. There are quite a wide variety of play styles with BA rifles and should all be covered in the sniper section.

I'm not disputing your term for 'sniper'. I say 'airsoft sniper' for a reason because it's different and the playstyle is much broader than you specify. Manchovie's charging BA style is a completely legitmate and oddly effective. but only in airsoft. I'm only saying we should condense the term sniper for all future reference so we don't get into the whole fieldcraft vs. gun thing.

So why don't we call it a BA section or sharpshooter section? After all, that's what it's going to be.
I may sound anal but I have a problem with people using the term "sniper" as a general term for anyone with a BA rifle. That's one of the misconceptions that new players have. The point is that this is a milsim hobby. Some of us go to great lengths to make it as real as possible.

as it has been said here, there should not be any restrictions imposed, the whole pupose of this sniper section is not only to answere questions, but to provide information for those who dont quite know what we do, and for those thinking of switching over to the "dark" side. With that being said, if you do not want pertinent info disclosed, then dont post it, and I said before there is some things that we dont disclose, and as part of the creed goes, tricks of the trade dont get revealed.......there is a penalty if you disclose "classified" info :lol: remember the saying, run and you will only die tired..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Jesus. I gotta stop telling people the colour of the boathouse at Hereford...

That's not a bad idea I could live with that. So long as the whole sniper vs. guns vs. fieldcraft debate is somewhat controlled its all good, I've read far too many threads eaten up by that.

Subforums for skirmishers, milsimers and gun tech would be nice too :) So new players can hit the right zone for the type of play so they dont get shammed for using the word 'sniper' wrong.

Sounds like some progress.

Valcrow, I actually do agree entirely with your post. The bulk of my posts have been in response to the suggestion the section should be restricted to "snipers" -- if you read my original reply to that, I asked [rhetorically] what determines if someone is a sniper. I guess that kinda started the ball rolling in that direction, so my bad on that.

But my point/objection and subsequent arguments remain: snipers are more than just the type of action their weapon uses. I wasn't trying to define "sniper" as much as arguing that if someone comes along with an MP5 converted to HK94 SG1 he's as much entitled to having access to the sniper section (if thats what he wants to play) than someone with a decked out M24.

Ergo, it's more than just about the gun.


I too could live with that. Although the 'tricks of the trade' bit seems hard to enforce.

Why is there a big problem with the word sniper?

If this section is to see the light, it must not be a assle for mods. So IMO, a big general "BA rifles and sniper" section is enough.

If you play like a "real" sniper and you are bothered with the noob toting a scoped BA and playing like a noob, than it is your job to elevate yourself and set the example on how a "real" sniper should work and play.

I see a lot of newcommers with BA rifles comming to games. No ghillie, no complete BDU, often wearing black. They think they are snipers. Good for them. As long as they don't fuck other people plans.

We are not to judge who is what. Just lay the necessary information and people will do what they want with it.

As for the trick of the trade restricted information, I'm kinda embivalent toward it. I'v read tons of sniper related books. I think I know a lot in a general sence. But all this leet knowledge don't do shit on the field if I can't practice it and aply it. Same goes to what we now know as an airsoft sniper with a couple years of experience under our ghillie.

lol valcrow is right, arguing the definition of snipers is dumb. i am doing this for the gun tech stuff more than anything, i'd love to hear what people have discovered for accuracy boosting, so lets get this shit going.

ps the moment you make sacrifices (rof, minimum engagement range etc) in order to get range, you are a sniper. you may not be a GOOD sniper, but you have a different set of duties to perform, and you gotta pull your weight.

ok ... i have a suggestion

having a private group for sharpshooter (for those known knowing about sniping stuff)and having a general "sniper" section for : gun spec., camo, etc..

i wanna start with a good question: should i "zeroted" my BA to a long distance ie: 200 feet or "zeroted" it till bb goes down?

I'd zero it for your standard engagement distance. Beyond that, you can compensate visually for the drop.

Maximum effective distance.

If your bb can reach 250 feet before it becomes ineffective (drops too much) then zero it 'there'.

As for Zeroing, my suggestion is zeroeing the average distance that you will be engaging, that depends on the level upgrade you are using, for level 2 upgrade, using a 200% spring, and .36 bb's, zeroing at 30-35 meters is reasonable, I havent zeroed my APS in a long time as it isnt needed everytime I bring it out, what I do is fire a few bb's for Chornoing and a few to see where I stand, if the bb's go left or right I adjust accordingly. I usually go to an indoor place and ensure the scope is where I want it to be

My recomendation when it comes to zeroing your scope is indoors, indoors is the best place to do that, as there are no elements that will affect the trajectory of the bb, first zero at aprox 30-35m, once satisfied, move back another 5 meters and repeat till the range is ineffective, note down in your book or a piece of paper for future reference.

Another thing to keep in mind is elevation. this applies for urban ops where structures are present. You would not want to zero your rifle from a higher elevation than where the target is. You want to zero the weapon roughly the same level as the target because when you are at a higher elevation from the target the range is actually greater than being on the ground. The eye tends to misinterpret the distance. This is crucial when one is operating in an urban terrain, as you may think you are 35 meters away, that is correct if you were on ground, but when you are higher that distance increases to lets say 45m.

There are so many factors that affect the bb's travel from the point it leaves the muzzle to the point it reaches the intended target.

Ok. We're going to try to see if the admin will make a seperate forum for us.

We need a list of people interested in it to pass on to admin. I know people have posted already but to make things easier, make a post saying "interested" and I'll put together a list.

SKI
Big G
Incursori
Bean
Concept_8
dj_ghillie
JacoNB
flack
Phil_Black
Drake
SniperChic
G_unit
Memel
Mon-KeiGH
CDN_Stalker
Redneck
pivot
Field_gunner
tsuru
Shotgun-Man
*ATF*Feanor
wey ferro
Xepharo
[DI]DeathSniper
Valcrow
Danny Cyanide

interested

interested

interested

interested:)

Interested

Interested.

Interested. (for the futur :D )

interested

interested

Interested....thats 11 including myself and SKI

Interested

interested

Interested

Interested and DONE!

http://warmongers.dyndns.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=31

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Free, good place, and safely hidden.

Mind you, it's under construction if you will, but kick my ass and I'll get to work on info enough for total noobs and vets alike. Opinions welcome, discussion, questions and whatnot. Without any flames whatsoever. Hey, I'm the mod, I will guarantee that! Ask a simpleton question, get an answer. If no answer, will provide what can be had to GET an answer.

Enjoy!

Interested

interested, thanks.

Sniper's Perch
 

Im sure most of you have come across this site, if not this link, theres a wealth of info on this site.

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums...sp?FORUM_ID=26

Enjoy

so Interested its not even funny

Interested

Interested

interested alot!

that's what i was thinking.

What good scope is for a sniper rifle in airsoft? i have a Tasco 6-24 x 50mm. Is that too much ?

I have the same scope mounted on my M40A1 as well.

intrested