drooling over the VFC HK VP9
 

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This gun maybe the gun to beat out the Glock 1718C for me.

I'm really digging it :)

Wish we had some picture comparing the two side by side

My buddy placed an order for one.. $310 X_X

From what I've heard, VFC pistols have very mixed reviews... I'd stick with a TM HK45 over a VFC VP9 to be honest.

it is on the way lol

VFC pistols finishing is wayyyyy better than any TM plastic frame

yea TM pistols are great performance BNIB but it is stupid to pay $300+ to get a metal kit.....

For some people it's worth it. But then again, you don't need the metal kit as they preform amazingly without them. VFC on the other hand has mixed reviews as stated before

if we are talking about out of the box performance then VFC glocks are actually quite reliable. except there aren't very many aftermarket options

Loved the KWA HK45 and it was fantastic. I just wished it was smaller. VP9 seems to be the perfect size

Stark Arms makes the VFC Glocks right? Owned Startk Arms Glock when they first hit the market and they were terrible. Not sure how much better they are now though.

I owned the vfc g19,g17, PPQ, they are all performaning very well out of the box

is that the standard or dx version?

the VFC VP9 is well worth the $300+ since as it's metal and already fully replicated, there is no need to get aftermarket metal slides unless you want steel lol

Sometimes the finish on these slides are poorly done and you just want something else that is of higher quality or a different look.

I am a great fan of Marui pistols, I love my Detonics Combat Master fully upgraded to metal and love my Desert Warrior 4.3 left stock, but at today I find inconceivable that Tokio Marui is still producing full plastic pistol replicas. From last year I bought my first WE G19 GForces, not an accurate replica I know, but it feels very good in my hand, is realiable and shot very well and it is sold for 100$.
So I was planning to buy the HK VP9 sold in my country under the brand Umarex. Because Umarex is a reliable brand I am confident about reliability and spare parts availability.
About this anyone knows where to find parts for the VP9? at least BB nozzle

Umarex isn't a brand, it's a RE-brand. Usually of KWA/KSC.

Tokyo Marui does not manufacture for export. They are made in Japan, for Japan. As a result they manufacture to meet Japanese laws.

In order to meet said laws, they are made to use duster. They do not need to make metal product, as plastic withstands the intended gas pressures.

That is how they manage to make Glock products with trades, without being sued by Glock themselves.

I am currently fighting a sinus infection, very hopped up on drugs. Hope that all made sense - alex

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I would contact the stores directly via email/facebook. they distribute VFC products and are able to custom order specific parts directly from the factory even if those parts are not being sold by other retailers.

take a look at this diagram to determine the part number for the nozzle that you need:
http://www.gb-tech.com.tw/downloads/..._List_Asia.pdf

VFC too and Win Gun, just bought the Colt Single action Army by Umarex but it is made by Win Gun

I think they have a WE rebrand, too or something. They rebrand a few companies.

Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV6JUu07R7I&t=6s a nice and positive review. German language but English subtitle availables.
Take a look at this german guy.......very nice review from him

When my vp9 comes in, it will be my fifth pistol from VFC I've had the pleasure of owning. From the earlier Stark Arms glocks, through Cybergun and more recent Umarex licensed offerings.. they have all performed wonderfully. Only problems were one's I introduced, which were all fixed by importing the original parts from China. That's about the only piss poor thing...if you need to replace any mechanical part, there just aren't any suppliers in country to supply to you...so it's a wait.
If the VP9 follows the trend of how VFC has been getting incrementally better with fit and finish on their pistols, then this will be a hard one to beat. However in all honesty, if it is merely equal in quality to the PPQ, i'd be happy with the $300+ price tag.

the ppq is a 100$ gun in asia. lol Paying 3x more for an unproven platform that has hard to get parts is not really a smart choice. I would not be happy with that kind of price for a primary use pistol.

One could say the same with TM pistols but you can now find certain shopping services in japan can get your factory parts short of the illegal bits, also for some models there is a strong enough aftermarket to keep may of the models running, so you could argue that 300$ for a TM pistol which is roughly 2.5-3x retail in japan can be worth it if you choose the model wisely.

not sure if I mentioned previously but I've got the DX version pre-ordered. from the review videos for even the standard version, it seems that a lot of high wear parts are already metal or steel rather than aluminum. I wouldn't field the brand new VP9 either.

A US100 gun bought in Asia is just short of CAD140. The ppq can be bought for cad200 of the local shelf, it's not that much of a stretch after shipping, import and customs to be considered an irrelevant disparity.

The suggestion that a fair comparison for performance between a plastic gun platform designed to shoot "duster gas" and one that has an out of box option for co2.. is laughable. It's not even an apples to oranges thing. As mentioned previously, yeah it's a pain in the butt if you need to replace a part for non-TM pistols... but the ability to "upgrade" with a gazillion third party components while fun and never ending, only points out the demand set by the number of consumers who are dissatisfied with the original, or from a mechanical perspective...the original just doesn't hold up. Someone else said it best in another post, TM's are like the Honda Civics of the airsoft world. After you've changed the slide, the hammer, the trigger, the sights, the frame, the inner barrel, the outer barrel, the springs, the rubber... all that's TM is the mag and hopup chamber...cause that's what most people do with theirs. It's hardly a TM at that point, right?
No one drools over a civic, much like no one drools over a TM... i'm with the OP on this, as the title suggests... the VP9 is worth drooling over.

Woohoo!
So the vp9 is very nice. Feels great looks great.
I have to say though, I was expecting, hoping, for it to be packaged the same way the ppq m2 was, in a cnc'd foam lined case... but alas, cardboard box... so that was a let down.
The internals are quite different from all my other pistols, very simple, clean. Assembly is good, tight lines, clean finish... not quite as refined as the ppq m2, but better than the cybergun fnx45.
Trademarks are well defined, and complete with the Ulm proof mark.
Should have ordered 2.
(haven't shot yet)

or so I heard. my contact notified that it was ready for pick up, which is what I'm going to do tmrw :D

I already got the AMG thread adapter:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/06...g?v=1482738060

but I feel that there is not enough thread to go in the barrel to make it solid enough with the weight of a suppressor.

edit: is the cardboard box like this one? if so, I'd say it's pretty standard for Umarex
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I want one! How? Where? When!? :D

@Naaz,

Yep, that's the box.
Yeah, all the H&K rifles I have, use the same style box... was just spoiled after the ppq m2 navy unit.

That adapter does look pretty shallow... but more importantly, the threads on the smaller diameter seem quite coarse compared to the threads on the outer barrel... you sure it will fit?

I'm going to bring the adapter when I go pick up the gun in Toronto. if there is a slight sense that the inner thread is too shallow, I'll wait until a one-piece threaded barrel enters the market.

take a look at this vid by ASGI. he's talking about a once piece outer barrel on the later gens so I'm wondering what gen we have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=415GLvbTANI
1:12

Yeah, I don't believe it's a single piece.
There's a bevel on the barrel collar just before the orange. That orange piece is an add-on as required by US laws, and they most likely adhered it to the barrel via thread lock or similar.
It's also very different than the AMG one you have a picture of.
Mine is from a Sept 2016 batch. I don't believe there are previous production versions of this one.

Okay so does this mean you guys are getting it before it goes retail? You've both mentioned having it or getting it but I see it for sale no where. I want to pick one up today as well if possible.

a few of us have pre-ordered. the import guy might have extras but who knows. but expect to pay $300+ for pick-up.

btw tuzi you need to empty your inbox lol

Yeah, just realized how full it got.

Yep, I myself preordered back in the summer of last year, so long ago, and definitely before the retailer knew of it.
I know preordered stock shipment are all gone/accounted for... I wanted to buy another one upon holding it.
You probably will not see it on shelves for a little while longer, and definitely >$300 for the deluxe package.

Funny there's already one for sale here in the gas blowback section for $350. lol I'll wait until the hype dies down and grab one then.

I was lucky because my contact ordered a fixed number of them when the initial requests began. so in his shipment there would be a few extras which were not part of the request so anyone who didn't pre-pay could pay in full after shipment arrived. I actually didn't wait that long. I dropped a deposit the first week of Jan.


I looked at that user's post history. seems like he orders for people, hence brand new everything and premium rates. could very well be my contact or some other guy who imports them but who knows lol.

True, I may pm him then, thanks for the info.

VP9 Take down lever
 

Has anyone run into issues with their VP9 going back together after cleaning or adjusting the hop up? Try locking the slide back, pressing in on the inner barrel until it seats back and voila!

VP9
 

I also own a two-tone Umarex/VFC VP9. It's been good to me and floats heavier bb's out quite well.

The kick is fantastic and the grip comfort / hold feels really good.

My concern is the lack of spare parts and upgrades being brought in by retailers in Canada so it is frustrating.

Another positive note is the hammer and many other internal contact parts are steel, very strong and built exceptionally well.

These are essentially VFC made pistols that are at times co-developed by KSC. The Harmonious fluidity of quality works well and the attention to detail and finish on the guns is A lister shiz.

Hop up rubbers are VSR10/Marui pistol compatible.

Maple Leaf "I" keys work to improve hop and aftermarket barrels, crazy jet, etc. probably work but I haven't swapped one yet to confirm so do your own homework so you're not disappointed.

KSC tends to have different mounting cuts for their hop units but I'm not certain of all models or if the inner barrels are KSC spec. Gas valve upgrades seem to be KSC type based on my limited research.

I like the VFC/Umarex pistol line so much I aquired another model, The HK45CT. You can view it in the post your pistols thread. I hope you like it.