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frag7 November 21st, 2005 00:01

World best combat BDU !
 
I’d like to make a review of what is, in my opinion, the best combat BDU ever made.
Before this one, my favourite combat jacket was the British smock for its pocket capacity and its heavy material for comfort and protection.
So let me present you the Swiss BDU!

The jacket is made of very comfortable heavy cotton (twice thicker as the British). It has 10 pockets: 2 on the chest with separation for magazines (6 mags), 2 cargos pockets, 3 pouches in the back (3 l mini each), one arm pocket, 2 inside pocket. To give you an idea of the capacity, I have an original Rhodesian LBV for my survival gear (3 days of food, water, shelter, first aid, radio, gps compass, shotgun ammo…) and everything fits easily just in the jacket !!.
Included a big adjustable hood (to wear with/without helmet) and in the hood : a sniper veil !! :tup:
Elbows are protected by thick cotton + waterproof plastic. :tup:

The jacket included also a “backpack” aprox 20 l that can be fixed on the jacket. Empty it fits any of the cargo pockets.

Same with the pants: 5 pockets, 2 cargo pockets with separation for 6 mags, clever sling and pressure system to tight everything around your legs. Knees protection by cotton and plastic.
Integrated suspenders and slings for weight repartition between the jacket and trousers.

So, everything’s perfect ? Too bad but no…As a fact, if the BDU designer is now a hero and you can find is statue in all Swiss military bases, the guy in charge of the camo pattern is still missing and a lot of bad stories run about him and what they did with his body…

If you do not know why have a look at that:

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/gallery...hp?imageid=743


I never saw something uglier than this, it’s a criminal offence!

I solve this problem with dark OD dye and I’m quite happy with the result. I tried it this weekend and I was surprise by the result even without any leaf on trees and snow on the ground: several players walked less than 10 m from me and did not see a thing!

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/276/dsc42336mk.jpg

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/8338/dsc42340jx.jpg

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/962/dsc42313cr.jpg

For my personal taste, it’s still too green so I’m going to try a brown dye sooner.

So I’m amazed by this set and it’s now my official clothes to go in the bush.

The good news are I’ve 2 and maybe 3 more set of this BDU (still red) and I can sell (trade preferred) them for a really decent price (usual price on the internet : 45 US$ for the pants :shock: ). They fit small to regular. A perfect choice if you don’t have an assault vest yet.
Thanks for reading !

mcguyver November 21st, 2005 00:20

the swiss do make good shit (if their watches are any indication). too bad though they don't have a "real" army to use it.

some guys around here used an alpine version of that camo. pretty effective in fall/winter, but stands out like acu in summer.

BC_K November 21st, 2005 00:34

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Originally Posted by frag7

Looks like M4 mag pouches............with a MP5K PDW, Thats different. :lol: Nice little review other then that.

frag7 November 21st, 2005 00:45

Quote:

Looks like M4 mag pouches............with a MP5K PDW, Thats different
My M4 is down :rrr: :rrr: so PDW for this weekend :-( Good thing about this chest-rig : fits 4 MP5 mags in each pocket !!

mcguyver November 21st, 2005 00:46

those pouches will hold 34 mp5 mags. nothing better for $50. or you can buy BHI and hold 12 mags for $300.

Hortons Heros November 21st, 2005 01:44

Nice job Frag, I can't even see you in the pics, are you hiding behind the guy in the green?

I didn't realize how decked out those BDUs are. Nice review and look forward to seeing them at the next game. Nice MP5 too.

edit
has anyone ever said that you look like Aragorn from Lord of the Rings...the first picture has me convinced.

firemachine69 November 21st, 2005 09:30

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Originally Posted by mcguyver
those pouches will hold 34 mp5 mags. nothing better for $50. or you can buy BHI and hold 12 mags for $300.


Nah, I'd rather the TT route. ;)

Boche November 21st, 2005 18:46

This pattern is based partially on the late WW2 German camo called 'Leibermuster', as illustrated here: http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/leibermuster.htm

Anyway, I was curious as to how it was dyed and if any precautions were taken to prevent colour run in case it's worn in the rain.

frag7 November 21st, 2005 21:06

To dye it I first tried like it was writting on the box :1 box of dye for 10 mn in very hot water but it didn't worked at all :banghead: so I used 2 boxes for all night !! :-D :-D
I'm going to try now with a box of brown for some hours...we'll see...

No special precaution is after this : I was under rain with it and I still have my pink baby skin :lol:

But, as it's a heavy coton it takes 3 days to dry so after the last color test, I will apply a waterproff layer.

Scuba Steve November 23rd, 2005 19:52

That looks awesome..I may have to try this with mine. Unique pattern after it is done for sure. So, 2 boxes of Rit dye (OD), soak overnight? How did it not turn the rest of the colors (like the white specks) to OD I wonder?

Scuba Steve November 23rd, 2005 19:57

Actually, anyone know where to buy this coat? I have just the rugular BDU jacket, not the sniper version like this one shown

gandar November 23rd, 2005 20:06

That's a damn nice piece of kit man.

lt_poncho November 23rd, 2005 21:29

Kick ass Frag - way to go. I really like the way you used the 3 color bottom to add to breaking up your pattern. By the time I spotted you coming out of the treeline in the pics you'd have capped a few of us.

Nice work - nice to see that the non digital stuff works well still (especially for the old skoolers hehehe)

Cheers!

BawBag November 23rd, 2005 21:47

Mmm, very nice indeed. Although you should try to get a tilly in that cammo rather then a faded tiger stripe. None the less, looks impressive for none digi.

ColtFarmer November 23rd, 2005 21:49

I have this jacket and pants set... maybe I will try the RIT dye fix for it... my plastic elbows are coming apart though =\

frag7 November 23rd, 2005 23:02

:p msg to all the digit junkies : "One day you will come back to the fundamentals : camouflage has nothing to do with gear, it's a philosophy. Don't show what the human eye is looking for !" :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Quote:

you should try to get a tilly in that cammo rather then a faded tiger stripe
I don't know, I like mixing pattern for 2 reasons : 1- I hate uniform 2- More difficult to spot something you even can't describe :mrgreen:


For the plastic elbow and knees, you can remove it : there's still another layer of plastified heavy coton below, and this one can't be removed.

Glad you like it !!


ps : I've to confess that I tried the OD dye on a IUUCADPAT ( Issued Uggly & Unconfortable CADPAT) and I'm not really happy with the result so more test to come. And my next cobaye is a MARPAT BDU ( maybe more uggly and unconfortable than the CADPAT) :mrgreen:

Gish November 24th, 2005 14:33

Wow. I'm super impressed by this. Normally Alpenflauge is a pretty terrible pattern for Canadian forests (Seriously where is there red in a forest) This dying really makes it an effective pattern.
I think i'll try this out myself.
Thanks for the tip!

JKT 1 December 26th, 2005 17:24

That looks really cool. I've always been a fan of the old Swiss M57 Kampfanzug, and its simpler cousin the M83 Feldanzug. The pattern, whilst looking rather garish, is actually very effective in autumnal alpine forests and was supposed to also work well in the rubble of villages post-invasion.

I've also always been curious about how well it would dye-up (or down) with green - so thanks for showing me. :-) Prior to the very cool SpecAm patterns from HyperStealth coming out, this was an idea I'd often toyed with in my mind.

Incidentally, check out the film "Richard III" starring Ian McKellan that came out several years ago. In this film they updated the story to the 1930's and a lot of Richard's army were decked out in over-dyed Swiss M57 combat uniforms. Very cool looking.

mctaz December 26th, 2005 17:54

it's a joke?
or you photo have error in dominance or you wash this old swiss jacket in green color..... if someone want see real color (red dominant) of this pattern go to this page http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=21698

McTaz

FOX_111 December 26th, 2005 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by mctaz
it's a joke?
or you photo have error in dominance or you wash this old swiss jacket in green color..... if someone want see real color (red dominant) of this pattern go to this page http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=21698

McTaz

read his first post, he dyed the thing.

mctaz December 29th, 2005 18:20

thanks fox,
now i read all 3d with dictionary in hand.

McTaz


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