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EOD Steve May 27th, 2016 22:15

Follow along - EOD Steve's Work Log
 
I thought I would start documenting a complete build-up of a brand-new VFC M4A1 RIS II FDE (aka M4A1 block2)

Follow along on this build!

http://hudsongravity.com/wp-content/...6-1429x960.jpg
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/05/24/new-project-vfc-daniel-defense-m4a1-ris-ii-fde/

EOD Steve May 28th, 2016 20:41

The mechbox teardown and review.

http://hudsongravity.com/wp-content/...1-1440x960.jpg
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/05/27/block2-build-teardown-mechbox-overview/

EOD Steve May 29th, 2016 11:02

A quick grip stippling before mechbox work.
http://hudsongravity.com/wp-content/...7-1440x960.jpg
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/05/28/block2-build-grip-stippling/

EOD Steve May 29th, 2016 17:39

Mechbox build-up is complete, see it here:


http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1440%2C960
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/05/29/block2-build-mechbox-buildup/

EOD Steve May 29th, 2016 17:40

Also knocked out the barrel group today.


http://i1.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1440%2C960
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/05/29/block2-build-barrel-group/

helljumper02 May 30th, 2016 18:09

I'm really liking the blog format of the new site, and that rifle is definitely a piece of work ... thanks for the new bookmark and I can't wait to see what comes down the pipe next.

EOD Steve May 30th, 2016 18:43

It is done. Paint + final chrono numbers.

http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1440%2C960
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/05/30/block2-build-paint-and-final-chrono/

Wilkie May 30th, 2016 19:57

I'd love a 'Like Button' on here. Excellent amalgamation of info, and an excellent looking build

EOD Steve June 1st, 2016 21:19

Another build starting up, but first an in-depth review of the HAO Geissele HK416 SMR rail compared to the real deal.


http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1440%2C960
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/06/01/hk416-smr-real-steel-geissele-vs-hao/

EOD Steve June 2nd, 2016 09:45

A comparison between the ASG Ultimate U-18000 motor and the SHS High-torque.


http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1024%2C682
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/06/02/motor-and-pinion-gear-swap-comparison/

BloodSport June 2nd, 2016 10:57

Thread stickied to keep it near the top, I'm liking this one.

cetane June 2nd, 2016 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodSport (Post 1980825)
Thread stickied to keep it near the top, I'm liking this one.

I like this thread too. How's the asg 18k motor compare build wise to the jg blue ones? Tpa same I think. Is the arm skewed in the asg motor?

EOD Steve June 2nd, 2016 16:27

Isn't JG Blue 22 TPA? ASG is 28TPA.
Haven't torn the motor apart to be honest so I couldn't tell you if it's skewed, that's another post for another day when I'm less flooded.

Magnets on the ASG are quite good, on par with Tienly and SHS HT.

cetane June 2nd, 2016 18:25

Hmm..? Maybe it is a 22tpa? Don't remember which arm I pulled from mine..?

chaz June 3rd, 2016 12:15

Reading about the motors in this comparison, what would be a HT motor that has good meshing with Siegetek gears (or just use a Siegetek pinion) that is low power consumption?
Price not an option.

EOD Steve June 3rd, 2016 12:19

A hand-built frankentorque.

Off the shelf? I think Ziming and I both agree that it's the Tienly 30k, maybe if they come out with a slower motor, it'd be that.
The ASG meshes well with a Siegetek pinion, it's just the motor itself is somewhat noisy. But paired with fast gears and a fully charged battery, it would be much harder to detect.

For the time being, I'm giving clients the option of either motor (ASG or Tienly) given their different characteristics and applications.

lurkingknight June 3rd, 2016 22:57

I did a zci/siegetek 20:1 build recently that was pretty quiet. Not super quiet like my all shs build on my g36, but I've been having issues finding high torque, low amp draw motors with a straight pinion to try the seigetek pinion. ASM guys tell me I can put a siegetek pinion on a D shaft with some pressfit loctite, but I have not had any luck as it just ends up sliding on the shaft of the shs motor I tried it on.

EOD Steve June 4th, 2016 14:04

I'm not sure I would trust something like a pinion to a chemical bond.
If you like the can, why don't you just swap the arm with a higher TPA one from some random ferrite motor? Sounds like you already had the pinion off already.

pestobanana June 5th, 2016 00:29

Not every ASM user is very intelligent... There are a lot of good guys there, but its mostly the elitists who think they're better than the rest of the community.

When you put an O pinion on a D shaft, chances are you are only getting 3 points of contact, and not a full round surface. The idea of a chemical bond is also unappealing to me.

My quietest setups are those that use SHS motors with SHS 12:1 and 13:1 gears, as well as Siegetek builds with 10:1 using Gen 2 bevel paired with a Tienly 30k with Siegetek pinion mounted. ASG 18k seems to be a decent motor, however the housing is slightly larger than a standard one and the motor seems to cause more whine, regardless of bevel height. I need to spend more time looking into the root cause of that.

lurkingknight June 5th, 2016 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by EOD Steve (Post 1981010)
I'm not sure I would trust something like a pinion to a chemical bond.
If you like the can, why don't you just swap the arm with a higher TPA one from some random ferrite motor? Sounds like you already had the pinion off already.

don't have any higher tpa arms in my bin of abandoned motors. At least none that are 22 or better.

pestobanana June 5th, 2016 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by lurkingknight (Post 1981062)
don't have any higher tpa arms in my bin of abandoned motors. At least none that are 22 or better.

Raid your local shop for dead G&G Combat Machine motors. The ones with grey cans and black endbells are actually parts compatible with SHS motors. They are 28 TPA and use O type pinions.

EOD Steve June 5th, 2016 18:45

The HK416 rebuild starts:

http://hudsongravity.com/wp-content/...ize=1440%2C960
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/06/05/hk416-build-starting-point-initial-work/

pestobanana June 5th, 2016 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by EOD Steve (Post 1981099)
The HK416 rebuild starts:

http://hudsongravity.com/wp-content/...ize=1440%2C960
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/06/05/hk416-build-starting-point-initial-work/

Sounds like were gonna have a VFC 416C build off :P

EOD Steve June 17th, 2016 15:27

After getting reorganized and collected post-NF5, I was able to finally sit down and do a thorough review of the newly-released TMC minimap pack.


http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...6/IMG_3655.jpg
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/06/17/tmc-vs-gmr-minimap/

Hopefully I'll be able to resume work on the HK416 this weekend.

EOD Steve June 17th, 2016 19:13

Had a few spare minutes this evening...

CHECK OUT THAT MIRAGE EFFECT THO. Wild.

http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...6/IMG_3660.jpg
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/06/17/hk416-build-mechbox-first-test/

lurkingknight June 18th, 2016 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestobanana (Post 1981079)
Raid your local shop for dead G&G Combat Machine motors. The ones with grey cans and black endbells are actually parts compatible with SHS motors. They are 28 TPA and use O type pinions.

I think I have some of those...

EOD Steve June 22nd, 2016 21:23

A look at the Midwest M-Lok rail for the HK416/MR556.
Or it should be titled "get rid of that nasty Dytac or Strike Industries rail and check this out"


http://i1.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...6/IMG_3666.jpg
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/06/22/midwest-industries-m-lok-rail-for-mr556hk416/

pestobanana June 23rd, 2016 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by EOD Steve (Post 1980923)
The ASG meshes well with a Siegetek pinion, it's just the motor itself is somewhat noisy. But paired with fast gears and a fully charged battery, it would be much harder to detect.

Turns out it may have to do with the design of the ASG motor housing being different from other motors. The body is slightly larger, and the guide tower for the shaft is part of the body instead of a separate piece slipped on before the pinion. Maybe the dimensions cause the motor to seat differently in the grip or motor guide hole, I don't know.

I managed to get my ASG to sound pretty much identical to my Tienly setup through somewhat counter-intuitive means. When I shimmed both setups visually, Tienly was much quieter. I tried shimming the bevel gear 0.3mm lower than what visually seemed optimal, the noise signature went down to the same level. Drivetrain setups were identical: Siegetek 10:1 sets in VFC mechboxes, PTS MOE grips, Siegetek pinions.

EOD Steve June 23rd, 2016 12:24

Quick review of the new Surefire Scout DS dual switch.


http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...6/IMG_3693.jpg
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/06/23/surefire-scout-ds-dual-switch/

EOD Steve July 13th, 2016 11:12

Some additional (final) work on the HK416, experimenting with various gear setups and some video/metrics.

http://i0.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1024%2C714
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/07/13/hk416-build-experimenting-with-alternative-setups/

Flavio July 14th, 2016 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by EOD Steve (Post 1984755)
Some additional (final) work on the HK416, experimenting with various gear setups and some video/metrics.

http://i0.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1024%2C714
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/07/13/hk416-build-experimenting-with-alternative-setups/



That's a stunning SBR, love the flat trigger!


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EOD Steve August 7th, 2016 10:23

I've been doing literally zero airsoft-related things lately, but here is a quick review of the Arisaka M-lok inline flashlight mount;
A lightweight, economical Surefire scout light mounting option!


http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1369%2C960
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/08/07/arisaka-m-lok-inline-scout-light-mount/

Look for more content soon as I'm going through a mid-year gear acquisition...

EOD Steve August 7th, 2016 10:40

A quick comparison between the M300V's old (120 lumen white) and new (250 lumen white) heads


http://i0.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1440%2C960
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/08/07/comparison-between-m300v-a-and-m300v-b/

chaz September 4th, 2016 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by EOD Steve (Post 1984755)
Some additional (final) work on the HK416, experimenting with various gear setups and some video/metrics.

http://i0.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1024%2C714
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/07/13/hk416-build-experimenting-with-alternative-setups/

What flash hider is that on there?

EOD Steve September 8th, 2016 17:07

It's an MB556K brake, bit of an older brake now...

EOD Steve October 7th, 2016 09:36

An in-depth look at the Insight MTM thermal monocular and usage.

http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1024%2C683

Also, I am now a BTC dealer.

EOD Steve December 11th, 2016 12:05

Fuck. Finally some new content.
Messing around with some NV mounts.

http://i2.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...751.jpg?w=1333
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/12/11/new-and-old-wilcox-l4-g30-and-l2-g05/

EOD Steve December 18th, 2016 09:11

Why the Wilcox dovetail J-arm is bad, and why Wilcox should feel bad.

http://i1.wp.com/hudsongravity.com/w...ize=1440%2C878
http://hudsongravity.com/2016/12/18/why-the-wilcox-j-arm-is-bad-and-why-wilcox-should-feel-bad/

EOD Steve January 10th, 2017 20:04

A discussion about Sentinels and auto vs. manual gain

http://i.imgur.com/pQsgiX7.jpg
http://hudsongravity.com/2017/01/10/lets-talk-about-sentinels/

Wilkie January 10th, 2017 22:22

Great write up as always, Steve


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