Tm mp5k vs p90 vs aug high cycle vs Scorpion evo 3
 

Hey guys I am considering getting a new gun and I know this is a lot to choose from so I need some help and we can hopefully narrow it down to one gun. If you can't tell I am obviously looking for a unique gun something different then the everyday airsofters gun. So the guns I have chosen is the Tokyo marui mp5k high cycle, Tokyo marui aug high cycle, Tokyo marui p90 high cycle and finally the asc scorpion evo 3. Don't worry about my budget but I was just wondering out of the box what one of these guns would be a good gun to use as a primary for field and backyard use? Thanks for the help I hope I was specific enough. Thanks again!

just gonna say...aug, p90 and mp5k is not unique at all...see them all the time on fields...and pretty sure all of them are good out the box lol..............

The Scorpion Evo stops firing when a mag is empty and you need to press the bolt catch when you put a mag back in before it will fire. It adds more realism and prevents dry fire.

Otherwise they're all great guns, you could just pick one up randomly.

^ what they said.
Internally, they're all pretty good, but unique? Not really... (MP5K maybe, and the Scorpion still isn't very often seen).
Choose what you like in terms of looks and what feels the best, so best advice I can give you is go into a store and try them out and see what form factor suits you best and which one looks the prettiest or coolest to you.

Skorpion EVO is crap. TM MP5 is solid and easy to work with. I've never met an airsoft P90 I liked, and AUGs classically seem to have issues. There are other brands of MP5 as well that are great. If budget is no issue, check out the Systema TW5.

Do tell me, why would the Evo be crap? Facs, not loosely based assumption or opinions. Yelling other people sinethings is crap without telling then why is la low bloe mate.

Cant edit for spelling in phone, sorry

Thanks for all of the replys guys very helpful. But on paper what ones out of the high cycle series have the best gear box and motor and all that stuff. And ik the mp5k is not that unique but more unique then the m4 or ak. The p90 it's a hit or mis at the field wether it's unique and for the aug I was getting the high cycle version and I'm pretty sure it's pretty rare because it doesn't look like a normal aug I'll put link here for anyone curious: https://www.google.com/search?q=toky...rnd6MJViW6M%3A

Sorry for the big link and also the scorpion I hear is extremely well built and it outperforms a lot of aegs even though it's size is like a mp5k and its said that it has like the best trigger response for the price.

It does, do be aware that its spring guide lugs tend to break. Better order the steel one with it. Other than that it's a solid aeg. Has no more faults and quircks than any other quality aeg. Nothing is bombproof however. With the possible exception of Realsword ;)

Are you talking about the scorpion evo? And have you owned it because if you have I have more questions.

I own one yes. ;)

How far can this gun shoot in feet do you think and is it accurate and how small is it with the stock off.

I can't say how far since I use it in cqb only, being relatively small. It reaches everywhere i want in cqb, say certainly 30m accurate. I have no range at home. Several reviews to commend for its range and accuracy in such a small package. It hold its own or surpasses most stock or lightly upgraded aegs because of good hop unit and the stability of the one piece steel barrel. That's partly why i bought one, as a possible woodland aeg. Without the stock it's possible to hold it as a heavy pistol, very manoeuvrable! You'll like it, but try and hold it because the pistolgrip can strain the wrists, as does the real steel.

ASG is typically a rebranding company, though the Skorpion might be their own. Not good out of the box, not good quality to cost ratio, to be fair I haven't owned one myself, but I'm still waiting to hear a good thing about them.

... or just get a VFC.

Do you k ow where I can get this for a good price or used because I don't have enough money to buy it used so do you think it's possible to wait for someone to post one on ebay

1. Work on spelling, this post was better than the last few but damn.

2. Why are you buying airsoft off Ebay, get age Verified or look for them a reputable retailers/sellers.

I think your confusing me for another guy because thays the worst my spelling has been and I was in a rush because class was starting. And the reason I wanna buy a used one is because you can sometimes gets brand new guns or guns with I my a couple thousand shots on it for like 40 percent off.

I recognise the spelling mistakes as someone typing on a phone. Anyway ASG is indeed a hit or miss rebrand company, but the Evo is their own production. Arnies airsoft has quite a bit of good comments, oddies airsof and popular airsoft have good reviews. They have their quircks, which is to be expected since its new and no clone with a tried and true v2 or v3 grarbox design. But asg have exceptional good customers service and has 2 years warranty. Can't help you on pricing sincr i am belgian ;)

Okay thanks for the response I'll just wait and see if there are any that come up on ebay.

And does anyone know for all the Tokyo marui high cycles I listed mp5k, aug, p90 what one of the 3 has the best internals because they all are like the exact same price new.

Lol u funny I wish I was as clever as u. Is there a way to block people from threads?

I wouldn't hold your breath - eBay is not the place to find quality airsoft items in Canada for a number of reasons.

If you're interested in used, get age verified and check the classifieds here. There are literally dozens of used guns for sale.

You can also join the cancer here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/realairsoftcanada/

I live in America so would eBay be fine still or no? And the guns that are used that are sold at my field are just rip offs the guys at the store scam you. There losers lol.

eBay might be better in the states for airsoft. No idea, this is after all a Canadian airsoft forum.

If you go for the Evo, please buy in store or web retail. You won't get your warranty when buying from eBay.

I can't afford it then so can you guys help me pick one of the Tokyo Marui guns. I'll list then one more time Tm Aug high cycle, Tm mp5k high cycle, Tm p90 high cycle. Can anyone tell me what one has the best internals.

Aren't Tokyo Marui guns classicly a few bucks as well? G&G makes an MP5 that's a fraction of the price.

Nope. Well, admins can, but not for people making jokes.

Does the g&g perform close to the tm or better? Idk I'm willing to go for it if it's a solid gun.

Probably won't perform as well, but it's 100% compatible, and you save some money.

I looked it up not that interested it's plastic and looks kinda junky is there any full metal mp5k I just want a small gun lol. This is stressing me out.

TMs are all plastic...
Full metal MP5K in Canada... Cyma is your best bet, but I don't know how good it is internally. Granted, if you're getting an MP5K, you're going to want to upgrade it for trigger response and ROF regardless, so internals might not really matter...

The CYMA MP5K is ok but heavy and of course no trades.

Yeah, the Cyma MP5K is heavy as fuck. Cheapo pot metal too. Doesn't like most brands of magazines either, you have to stick with Cyma magazines. The only other option if you want a full metal MP5K AEG is Classic Army, and they are quite hard to find right now. But frankly, the full plastic TM MP5K is well made and very durable.

Yea I'll stick with the Tm mp5 because no point of being small if heavy. But I'm confused there is a Tm mp5k high cycle and Tm mp5k Kurz what's the difference between them because I'm pretty sure the Kurz is less money. Here is a link to a page can you guys tell me what mp5 Will be the best bang for your buck: http://echigoya-guns.com/guns/index....ory&path=36_44


It looks like they all have a version 2 gearbox besides the mp5 pdw and the mp5k they have a version 3. I don't really know the difference.

Edit: after reading this I don't think there is a different gun the kurz stands for the k so mp5 kurz is like say mp5k lol I feel dumb. http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/tokyo-mar...l#.VjLJAYHD9Ds

The V2 MP5s are full size MP5s (navy, A1-A5, etc).

The V3 MP5s are all the short versions, so MP5K and MP5K-PDW (MP5K with a folding stock). Marui originally made an MP5K a long time ago, it's still available, it's a great gun, it shoots around 280fps on 0.20g BBs out of the box and it doesn't need any upgrade whatsoever, 280fps is perfect for CQB. Its a very durable gun and will likely last many many years, maybe even forever if you power it with an old school 8.4v nimh battery.

Recently Marui came out with their high-cycle series and they made an MP5K. It has an inflated butt and fires a lot faster. It's also more expensive. The internals are slightly better to survive the faster shooting rate. The problem is that it fires a lot faster. When you play in real capacity games, you'll get through these 30 rounds mags really fast is you use full auto. You'll have to stick to semi. The advantage of the higher firing rate is that semi-auto fire is a bit more responsive, so overall it is a better gun is you plan to stick to semi auto and if you like the inflated butt they gave it. Real MP5Ks don't have large butts, so its not super realistic.

Hmmm I like big butts I cannot lie, but thanks for that tidbit. I was going to swap my CYMA for a TM HC but my money went to a TM P90 instead. Does the "big butt" make it that much more comfortable or just a quirky design decision?

I honestly can not see the appeal of TM AEGs other than their recoil series. Most have fragile ABS bodies, and while reliable and decent performing in stock form, they are out shot by any mildly tuned gun, for a fraction of the price.
I would go for the Scorpio evo 3, mainly because it is one of the very few technologically innovative AEGs on the market.

I'll show my "noobness" but from the dozen guns and pistols I have, the TM line has always felt "tightest" and most well put together. Granted, I'm only comparing to Ares, CYMA, WE, KSC so it's a somewhat unfair comparison. I guess it's one of those "you can't go wrong with a TM" but farther down the line, you'll realize there are some middle of the ground options.

That said, the EVO 3 looks pretty meh but the features do appeal (to someone that isn't absolutely new) like the QD spring, bolt lock, low batt warning... It's like parents teaching children -- you can harp all you want but once they make the first mistake the ah-ha moment will kick in :wink:

Thanks for the replies guys. This is where I'm at. I'll rank it from my first choice to last 1. Asc scorpion evo (If I can a used version that still has warranty 2. Tm mp5k or another mp5k if you guys can suggest one that is good (i think I'm willing to upgrade the gun). 3. Tm aug high cycle ( I'll be buying this brand new) finnaly 4. Tm p90 high cycle ( I'll be buying this new as well). Btw guys I am using these guns as a primary for field use. The field I go to has all different types of field sizes. If I got any tm gun I would want to upgrade it to 350 fps. Thanks for the help!

I agree and feel the same, but the Marui guns in this topic are the notable exceptions. If you can find a TM MP5K for a good price, its an amazing gun for CQB. Same for their P90. But if you want to take them outside its another story, in that case you're much better off buying something else.

Can either of you guys suggest a gun that would be good to upgrade and what kind of performance can I get with a upgraded aeg. I still wanna stick to the mp5k, aug or p90 if possible

For MP5Ks its TM or a very hard to find full metal proline Classic Army. Everything else is either super heavy and difficult on magazines (Cyma), made of cheap plastic (Galaxy), or weird and crappy (Cybergun GSG series). For P90s you can make do with a King Arms, but the hard to find Classic Army proline is also excellent. Marui's P90 is great for CQB, not so great outdoors. Reviews of the G&G P90 have been mitigated at first, no idea if the newer versions are better. Cyma has come out with a P90 recently, no idea if its any good. AUGs are all crappy as far as I know. The fore grip WILL break on all of them except the high-cycle TM AUG because it doesn't have one.

Don't bother with upgrades too much. You have to know what you are doing to get good results. For most people, swapping the hop-up rubber is really all that's needed. If you bought a very low end product and you suspect the inner barrel is really bad/defective, you might want to change it, but a good barrel will cost you 100$+ with the current state of the Canadian dollar, and you might not see much improvement in accuracy and range. Most of the time, upgrading the inner barrel is hardly a good bang for the buck. Don't bother with cheap upgrade barrels, they all suck and are likely worse than your stock inner barrel. Go quality or keep your stock barrel.

Thanks for the reply so if I go mp5k I'll go tm and I will just upgrade the inner barrel and maybe a better spring. (I live In America so barrels might be cheaper. I'll research the p90 by king arms. And the tm aug high cycle im considering. If the scorpion is available that's what I'm getting I just gotta wait some time lol.

Changing only the barrel on a TM MP5K is unlikely to be worth it even at USD price. To take advantage of a good quality inner barrel you also need a good quality hop-up rubber. Hence why I said that changing the hop-up rubber is probably all that you need to do. Do NOT change the spring on a TM MP5K. It's already got a rather strong spring to reach 280 fps on such a short barrel. A stronger spring will tax the internals a lot, slow your rate of fire and reduce trigger response significantly. Get another gun if you want higher fps. But really, for CQB, 280fps is perfect. You don't need any more.

Well I am using this for field but I run and gun a lot so do you think this gun can hit a target at 150 feet and the guy would be able to feel it with a sweatshirt on? With the rubber upgrade

It can definitely reach 150 feet at 280 fps, but the hit calling depends completely on the quality of the players you play with.

An MP5K is a poor choice for the field. It's okay as a short range backup for a long rifle, but aiming precisely at long range without a stock is hard. Get a full sized MP5 instead, or a P90 if you want something small that works well outside. In this case, the Scorpion EVO you asked about earlier would be a great choice too.

This guys is offering a we smg8 with 5 mags and a suppressor for 120 dollars shipping included should I do that deal?

One upside I'd like to point out to p90s is that they are extremely easy to take apart to do maintenance or upgrades.

Good for a beginner. If you know what your doing then it doesn't matter as much.

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You should also look into the VFC MP5s, they make an AEG version now and it looks really solid with stamped steel upper

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Thanks for the replys guys I will look into these but a guy is offering a WE smg8 with 5 mags and a Angel suppresor (80 dollars for just suppresor) for 120 dollars should I take the offer or no?