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MrMoo July 1st, 2015 02:44

Real Sword - Worth it?
 
Hey folks,

I've been working up a pretty solid collection of AKs and Soviet weapons, and I've been enjoying them a lot. I started with a humble (and cheap) Dboys, went on to a few other things, and then came back around with G&G. I have the G&G AK-74 (the one with the battery built in to the hand guard) and the AK-74u, and they're both awesome. Being Top Tech guns, they're probably the best performing guns I've owned. Those 11.1 LiPos give you a crazy rate of fire, and they come stock with Mosfet, tightbore barrel, etc. Really fun to game.

Then I got myself a Real Sword SVD, and that component/build quality is just... Wow. Super solid, and a gorgeous gun.

So, now I'm looking at a RS Type 56. I know the gun will probably be as close to indestructible as a real AK, and I'm sure I'll have no qualms about the build quality, but, how do these things actually perform in game? RS stuff is tough to buy new in Canada, so, my only option is to ship it in from an online retailer, no chance to toy around with one in person before buying. How good are these things on the field? Can a stock RS compare to a Top Tech G&G with a mosfet, tightbore, etc?

I turn to you, internet! Anyone have one of these? How do you find it performs? I need input before I drop a ton of money!

Curo July 1st, 2015 04:14

I'm not sure exactly how it would compare performance wise with an upgraded top tech (assuming all the standard upgrades are done) but the Real Sword blows anything G&G out of the water. AEG wise Real Sword makes some of the best AKs (Type 56s) on the market, combining Quality internals and externals. Bonus points when replacement parts are easy to find and I believe they are 100 percent TM compatible internally.

Also LCT makes amazing AK variants aswell if you are looking at really good AKs

Desmodus July 1st, 2015 09:57

As Curo said, you can't go wrong with a Real Sword Ak. I used to own one and it was a great gun both inside and out. I'm almost tempted to buy another one!

Real Sword only makes Chinese Ak variants... if you want the Russian flavour go with LCT or E&L. Their build quality is on par with Real Sword!

Hectic July 2nd, 2015 08:41

LCT or bust IMO for most AK variants

MrMoo July 2nd, 2015 10:52

Fair enough. Maybe I'll aim for an LCT instead of a RS. Cheaper, anyway.

BioRage July 2nd, 2015 11:01

$350 shipped is pretty legit.

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=172754

Just depends on the model you want.

I like the 74u and 105's, so I'd have to get LCT.

Latvian291 July 2nd, 2015 11:13

Agreed ^

There's nothing that can compare to Real Sword. The Chinese use thicker steel than their Russian counterparts in their AKM. And guess what - so does Real Sword. I can confidently say what people have suggested for a long time - Real Sword bought machinery and or a factory from Norinco and makes these things from the same quality material as Norinco.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...pskpxjmh41.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...pslvu5egoq.jpg

MrMoo July 2nd, 2015 14:10

I've actually been watching that thread, it's a great price, and the gun looks in good shape. I may jump on it, but, I was kind of set on a wood stock. The LCTs are pretty comparable to the RS in terms of quality and construction, then? How about performance?

Hectic July 2nd, 2015 14:18

Yes and yes. Tho ive never owned a RS I have shot them. I seen 2 of em die game 1. My LCT lasted a season and was then sold, havent heared any complaints about it thus far.
Ignore the first 2 photos, thats just my vsr10 box lol
http://s197.photobucket.com/user/Hec...tml?sort=3&o=2
but thats the AKM I had.

BioRage July 2nd, 2015 14:23

I heard some stuff in RS are proprietary, someone can correct me.

LCT doesn't have AS nice as externals, but it uses a standard V3 gearbox.

You can't go wrong with either, just get what you want, and if there is a deal then go for it.

Desmodus July 2nd, 2015 15:07

The gearbox for Real Swords is proprietary. From what I remember, it was shortened a little to conform to the 1:1 scale Type 56 receiver.

BioRage July 2nd, 2015 15:09

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Originally Posted by Desmodus (Post 1951819)
The gearbox for Real Swords is proprietary. From what I remember, it was shortened a little to conform to the 1:1 scale Type 56 receiver.

Ah, got'cha. So inside the GB is still standard stuffs that AEG uses.

MrMoo July 2nd, 2015 15:09

Hm, a little worrying, especially if Hectic has seen two of them die straight out of the box. I've heard a lot of good things, though, so, I might still go for one.

BioRage July 2nd, 2015 15:21

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Originally Posted by MrMoo (Post 1951822)
Hm, a little worrying, especially if Hectic has seen two of them die straight out of the box. I've heard a lot of good things, though, so, I might still go for one.

Don't think he meant out of the box, just on the field.

Everyone has different experiences with their guns, some guns break faster then others.

Desmodus July 2nd, 2015 16:05

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Originally Posted by MrMoo (Post 1951822)
Hm, a little worrying, especially if Hectic has seen two of them die straight out of the box. I've heard a lot of good things, though, so, I might still go for one.

All airsoft guns will eventually break. That's just the way it is. Real Swords have very very few proprietary parts, and if they DO break they are extremely easy to source, so don't let that deter you. I'm very confident that if you do buy one... you won't be disappointed.

Kozzie July 2nd, 2015 16:43

I was on a team that ran almost exclusively Real Swords (myself included), type 56's, 56-1's, 56-2's, & some LCT's. I can say from first hand experience, externally Real Sword>LCT full stop. I've never seen an "AK" that feels or looks as good as a RS (though I have yet to see an E&L in person). Not to take anything away from LCT of course, their reputation for having good externals is well deserved. As an aside, I would note that the under-folding stock of the type 56-1 could be considered a weak point; this problem isn't specific to RS however, it's inherent to the design of the under-folding stock.

I have a fair amount of time spent inside a RS type 56 (T2) gearbox. RS internals are quite good quality, easy to get a hold of, and are V3 compatible. The only thing proprietary is the shell itself (which is shorter as previously mentioned). There should be no issue with them out of the box, they perform very well in stock form, I've never witnessed one go down in game. I've seen a DSG set-up in a type 56-1 and a P* in a type 56. The only stock part that could use replacing is the spring guide, as with most guns it isn't a bearing spring guide; this will improve the longevity of your spring. A case could also be made for an aluminum double O-ring cylinder head but not 100% necessary as the compression with the stock parts is really quite good.

Is RS worth it?.. This question is entirely subjective. IMO, yes, because I value having top quality externals and true 1:1 scale. I don't claim to be a top gearbox wizard, but I do well know my way around internals. So, when I buy guns the main factor for me is external quality. Any entry level gun can be made to out shoot a stock high priced gun with only a hop-up modification. Certainly an LCT is not a bad buy, they make great guns, to me it just boils down to whether or not you're willing to pay more for nicer externals.

**edit: I would also recommend you look into E&L, I hear great things about them, Red Wolf has very good prices on them right now.

DanoftheDead July 2nd, 2015 18:02

Real Sword. Mine is 6 years old and still going strong. Never failed yet. (knock on wood stock) I am hard on it but it has yet to let me down. Solid build in and out. I'd advise anyone looking for an ak variant to go with one.

MrMoo July 2nd, 2015 20:15

Really appreciate all the feedback, guys. Great to hear from people who have owned/used these guns. In terms of performance, is it easy to upgrade a RS Type 56? That's kind of what I'm leaning towards. Any suggested part replacements?

Kozzie July 2nd, 2015 20:52

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Originally Posted by MrMoo (Post 1951854)
In terms of performance, is it easy to upgrade a RS Type 56?

It's no more difficult than an LCT or any other AK/V3.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMoo (Post 1951854)
Any suggested part replacements?

Ball bearing spring guide and R-Hop or Flat-Hop it, maybe a new barrel. Beyond that, it depends if you want to change any characteristics of the gun, i.e. ROF or trigger response.

Standard stuff I would do to any AEG:
- Re-shim/re-lube (mine was shimmed pretty well from the factory)
- Correct AOE (this could potentially be more difficult in the shortened gearbox)
- If you're going to use an 11.1v lipo you're going to want a mosfet.
- Deans wire connectors

-=ArchAngel=- July 3rd, 2015 02:23

Aside from grip, how is real sword compatibility with real steel furniture/parts like stock, handguard, top cover, etc?

Latvian291 July 3rd, 2015 04:58

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Originally Posted by -=ArchAngel=- (Post 1951888)
Aside from grip, how is real sword compatibility with real steel furniture/parts like stock, handguard, top cover, etc?

Compatible. But since the stock is just as good quality as the real steel, why bother?

The only thing I did on mine was change the bolt to an LCT one to have full travel.

Derpystronk July 3rd, 2015 06:51

Quote:

Real Sword - Worth it?
Yes, absolutely.

We're done here. Go buy one.

jomor July 4th, 2015 17:56

Mount
 
Have any of you added a scope mount to your Realsword?

MrMoo July 29th, 2015 11:51

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:)

Desmodus July 29th, 2015 12:07

Good job OP!

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