Best M9 and Glock in stock form
 

I have nothing but 1911 pistols but would like to pick up a M9 and Glock.

What are the best choices right now? I don't want a pistol that need 80% of the parts replaced before it to be reliable for continuous gaming use.

KJ works M9, workhorse and TM compatible

WE Glocks have come a long way. My WE Glock 17 has held up getting dropped into sand, and firing perfectly afterwards.

KJW m9. I have an m9 vertec(vertex?) By kjw, bought of of Anderson and Anderson way back in 07 or 08, was and is my goto sidearm, been dragged through the mud sand swamp and snow (i play the sniper role mostly so litterally dragged) minor upgrades including inner, hop rubber, hammer spring and recoil spring right out of box and never touched it after that aside from using it. Id say easily has 50000 rounds through it, and thats conservative, it ranges with most stock AEG's kicks good too. Fit and finnish isnt all that hot (it rattles like a highcap if you shake it) and no functuoning decocker (on this model, not sure of newer ones) also the newer ones have a blue or red (cant recall) nozzel that allows the use of co2.
The KWA/KWC m9 ptp is a nice pistol, however you prety much gotta like it out of the box cause finding hop rubbers and inners and such isnt gonna happen, least i cant find an inner and outter for the life of me. But it functions great out of the box and has the functional decocker. Full metal aside from the outter barrel, makes for a smooth cycle and lighter weight plus adds durability by not killing the slide with friction.
i loved my ksc g17, had a tm too that was sweet, had a kjw g32c (broke and couldnt get parts, wasnt a cansoft one either was oldschool solid black frame)
Currently have a we g18c, the hopup sucks, ive put in an aip hop, but really its the arm bends or the wheel doesnt have enough adjustment, currently sourcing a wheel to see if that helps the issue, but over all it seems decent so far once i sort out the hop issue. Should note that HK3P is also we currently with nicer trades.

+1 on WE Glocks, if you want a good Glock out of the box with metal slide, WE Glock series is the way to go.

I like KSC too as my first Glock 17 was a KSC and ran it for around 5 years stock before crapping out. but i find that it didnt perform as well as i'd like it even when it was functioning.

I own a bunch of TM and WE glocks, My TMs are all franken guns now with lots of after market parts. my WE's on the other hand have been running fine stock with no issues.

I'd suggest WE G17 :) good out of the box stock gun

+1 WE Glocks. Had a kj and it was ok but my new WE G18 has been holding up solidly since I bought it. Hop up is not the best, but not the worst by far either.

I third the KJW M9; most of the guys I game with have one too. Only really ever had 1 failure, and that was fixed pretty quick (bbu wasn't properly oiled, so user error).

+1 HK3/WE Glocks!

Both G17 and G18C

TM Compatible G17 (G18C different BBU)

Running my G18C for almost 4 seasons now

If you have the cash, go for a TM. If not, I would go for a KJW M9/Glock or a HK3P Glock. If you want something different that is similar to a Glock an Echo 1 Timberwolf would be a good choice.

I enjoy the KWA M9 PTP. Solid. Gas efficient. Parts are not interchangeable with other brands.

It should be noted if i didnt make it clear, tho it doesnt have large aftermarket support, it doesnt need a thing out of the box, just a good cleaning of the inner and hop rubber (normal for most all guns) and some quality .30g bb's

Thanks for all the input.

I have several KJW pistols KP-09, KP-05 and the Hi Capa. I also have at TM which I left completely stock.

I will probably get the KJW M9. Too bad it does not have a functioning de-cock.

As for the WE. I have an old M4A1 GBBR and the new M4 Raptor GBBR. Big difference in improvements on the Raptor.

As for the WE Glock G17, how can I tell it is the latest version? I heard Gen 4 was the latest???

If were talking about different frames of the WE Glock the Gen 4 frames are common. Im not quite sure about the differences between a Gen 4 frame and a Gen 3 frame, but I know that in the Gen 4 you can change the backstrap. If were talking about later models (Newer Improved WE Glock) on WE Glock, the outer barrel is tapered between the barrel hood, and the barrel itself. I have a video on it, because my Echo 1/ WE Timberwolf Outer Barrel broke twice.

WE and HK3P by extension make both Generation 3 and 4 variants of the full sized Glock. Gen 3 was notable for introducing an accessory rail, finger grooves on the grip, depressions in the grip for one's thumbs, and a reinforcing locking block pin.

Gen 4 was notable for introducing a dual recoil spring assembly to soften recoil (Not seen on WE/TM/KJ but seen on VFC/Stark), "polymids" in the form of a roughened texture on the grips, interchangeable backstraps on the grip, and a change in markings - for the first time in Glock history the slide is marked with Generation markings.

With the WE and HK3P Glocks, the above poster is correct - you'll be looking for a barrel with a radiused junction with the square chamber. Apart from that, you'll also be looking at fit and finish- the fit has outpaced the finish IMO, but that's the right order to be in.

For WE/HK3P Glocks, the "Gen 3" "Gen 4" thing is not for newer/older version of airsoft gun produced by WE. The "Gen 3" "Gen 4" thing means they resembles the looking of real steel Glock Gen 3 or Gen 4. Both "Gen 3" and "Gen 4" by WE will have newer and older versions.

There are currently few noticeable changes from the earliest versions, that I know of. There are probably more changes and/or versions that I don't know (input would be appreciated). The following changes occoured on both "Gen 3" and "Gen 4".

Earliest version: The outer barrel have straight angle to the chamber, rather than the curved transition on later version. This version is very old and I am not sure if there is any in Canada. Have the outer barrel breaking issue.
Mid-ish version: The outer barrel now have curved transition between barrel and the chamber, less likely to have outer barrel broken.
Later-ish version: Improved furnishing on the slide, the ejector is now a separate piece rather than on the slide. (like the guarder slides).

So I guess WE fixed the Nozzle issue for their Glock 18?

I have I guess the earliest version... and yes the barrel snapped on both my G18Cs. Replaced them with Guarder Barrels.

Also one of my nozzles cracked on me the other nozzle on the other G18C was modded to prevent the nozzle from cracking and its been running fine for the past 4 seasons so far.

Aside from those issues everything else is running perfect.

The only thing I would recommend upgrading from the start is the hop up rubber. I use a maple leaf on all my guns now and I find thats pretty much all you need to get it to shoot straight.... that and .30g BBS

So there is some of the earliest-ish version in Canada. Thanks for the information.


Don't know, I didn't have the chance to disassemble a later-ish version WE G18 to tell. You can do the G18 spring guide mod despite of versions, or just buy a G17. A full-auto sidearm is fun but not that useful, my G18 stayed on semi every time I game with it.

Its simple fix to trim the "spring guide" of the nozzel return spring. Notbsure if my we glock is the latest or not, i just followed the direction to reducing the length of the spring guide and havent had a failure yet.

WE, TM and KJW M9's are all cross compatible. I had a KJW M9 for 5 years, rolling in the sand (literally, I was dive rolling in sand) and it works beauty! Frame fell apart before anything else stopped working. I upvote the KJW M9.

Second M9 I had is the SOCOM Gear M9: feels great, shoots straight as an arrow, a little harder to find, solid as a rock, but this one may be a little harder to find.

Which one is better in quality and durability... WE or the KJW M9?

Its safe to say that most Kjw pistols a very reliable for the price. I even heard that their newer 1911 models have parts made of Aluminum and steel. WE also upped their game with their M9 Inox version. Seems to be a good pistol, but I am not sure where you could find the new Inox version. (The Inox has a functioning decocker, but it also has a full auto switch.)

If you are looking at the WE M9, be aware that there is a "New System" WE M9 with a functional de-cocking.
The magazine is still interchangeable to old WE M9 and TM M9, but some in-slide parts are not. Some versions (early and later) of the "New System" WE M9 has full auto select firing while some later versions are semi-only.
Early version of the "New System" WE M9 (with full auto select firing) has the problem of firing full-auto while in semi. There are official and unofficial fixes on Taiwan airsoft forums, but the results are still not very satifistory. Not sure if the Canadian batch of "New System" WE M9 have this problem fixed, because asking WE to fixed from Canada would be painful. Also not sure if this problem is fixed on later semi-only versions.

+1 to both KJW M9s and WE Glocks.

I've been told everything about the WE glocks has been great as of late, and am actively looking for one myself.

The KJW M9s are amazing workhorses. I had one, and loved the crap out of it. Hell, I've found that all my KJW guns are that way. They're TM compatible, too - bonus if you WANT to upgrade, but you don't necessarily NEED to.

Both the KJW M9 and WE glocks are good. Personally I like KJW alot more because I can use C02 Kicks hard. Had the KJW M92FS and loved it, also had a WE Glock 17 Gen 4 for awhile. Liked it but had more fun with the 1911's and the M9 personally