N00B here...
 

First thing, Hi all :)

I'm new in this hobby and I'd like to have some tips/help... my friends bought some softair gun (yeah the ones who don't work ;) ) I have a couple questions for ya all...

1) I'm the only exception in all my friends cause i bought a NBB gun : UHC UG-161... so the question is : is it a good gun to play with in airsoft games (competively) ? (or i should go to the store and get back my money) ---> cost 70 $ CAD + 25 $ for the second magazine i bought...

2) I'm more like a "rushing sniper", i mean i dont want a sniper gun but i want something to snipe a bit with... well can you show me links of guns good for it ? (links very appreciated because guns' names don't help....)

3) Being new mean that i have to buy some must equipment... can some1 link me this equipment (with price sure) ?

Just for your informations my budget is like between something cheap and middle quality (maybe 400-700 CAD for the gun and not too much for the equipment :xmas: )

Thx for the help
Dinendal

It's a NBB and probably okay (it shoots, right?) .. that's the USP one? 15 rounds, with a spare magazine. It would be okay as a sidearm, but if you plan on going up against full auto rifles, you'll probably find yourself outgunned pretty fast.


Guns don't make snipers; skill makes snipers.

This isn't paintball, any gun can be used to "snipe a bit with". If you plan on "rushing" anything more than the Dead Player Area/Safe Zone, you want an assault rifle (or SMG, whatever tickles you). A tuned, stock AEG is reasonably accurate; well tuned/upgraded AEG can be extremely accurate.

You might want to find airsofters in your area and go check out a game and try some guns out so you can discover the performance of a real airsoft gun.


There's a lot of places to buy gear, depends what you're looking for.

Surplus stores, you'll be able to find BDUs. Pball places you can get your goggles. You can find stuff online, too. Get good goggles, you only get one chance to save your eyes, so that's one place you don't want cheap out on.

Sniper and rushing don't go together.

The only rush you get when sniping is when your hiding in your ghillie suit and someone is about to walk on you because they did not saw you.

Play a few games and you will know exacly what branch of the sport you want to specialise in. 90% of people will go AEG.

Anyway, you should start with an AEG. I think the FAQs as all the reasons and explanations on this, you might take some time reading it to save you some money.

If you don't mind me asking, where did you find a nbb UHC UG-161 (I dont believe retailers carry cheap guns like that)...I own a couple nbb hfc guns but iv never heard of uhc. (they must be the same type of company I guess)

Erik

It was in Beloeil (Quebec) at a surplus store named SAIL ... I took it because it was a well looking gun but didn't know anything about airsoft... so I think I,m gonna go back and get back my money to buy a good AEG...

one of my friend told me that a G36C could be a good choice for me ... what do you think ?

ciao

Listen carefully, this is what you're going to do, because it's a lot more effective than asking us.

Firstly, read the FAQ here to better understand what features of a gun contributes to what desired performance. Then follow what you learned from the guide and read some reviews on the guns that seem to fit what you're looking for (remember to search the forum at different airsoft sites, reviews and opinions live there). If you can't decide between two guns of similar performance, pick the one prettiest to you. Then it's up to you if you want to buy the gun then or if you want to head to a game and check it out in person [hint: a picture is worth a thousand words but a feel is worth ten thousand (or jail time, if she be a minor)].

Remember, getting into airsoft properly is a rather expensive and time consuming ordeal that only YOU can pull off. We can't and won't bottlefeed you through the process, but we'll tell you what you should do to succeed. Follow what I've told you, and you should do fine.

Final hint: G36C is good for rushing, not so good for mid distance work, probably poor for long distance work. Read FAQs and reviews to figure out why.

All guns are made the same, they are all good. It all depends on your profile. If your very tall and big, im sure you wouldn't get a mp5 or something small. Read some reviews, you will find alot of review in the review section.

Well you cant say that. Some have different gear boxes, some are more reliable, some are not, some have more upgrades/accessories, some don't, and when you go to comparing brands, and types of guns, stock power and accuracy comes into play.

Still with standard AEGs (TMs especially), they are very similar, and looks play an important part. I say - get the TM AK-47! Large battery, reliable, fairly sturdy, lots of kits available (at outrageous prices ;)), and looks damn good to me!

Welcome to the sport,
Cheers,
Alex

For a "Rushing Sniper", I'd recommend a STEYR AUG. Good at CQB, and almost perfect at long ranges, it'd do nicely. Just as long as you aren't too used to loading front-loaded clips, though.

USP nbb.

It's a good nbb but it will (Trust me i have the same) break. After maby 300 rds you will not be abel to pull the trigger. and ther is a littel piece of plastic that will fall of your gun.

Stick with it if you planning to spend cash on a side arm because it's cheap and it's pretty accurate to. With the rest of your cash buy goggle and the AEG that makes you go like OUUUUUUUU i like this one !

For your Nbb, you can open it and fix this by yourself in a hour and it's done!

Phil_Black

My point exactly

And yes, the Ak is a very good gun. BUY IT BUY IT NOW!

OK ... just found this on 007 site...
VSR-10 Pro (440$) and fell in love...
so i went at www.renegaderecon.com
and read a review of the gun... some personal experience with this gun ?

or i should keep more money for something like Maruzen APS-2 Sniper Version (550) or Maruzen APS-2 Type 96 (L96 A1) (680) ?

or even one of the most $$$ i saw... Marui H&K PSG-1 (800)

What about spring vs AEG sniper ? for real snipers i mean ...
but i don't wanna hear : "go read..." i want personal opinion :)
ciao

But we're gonna tell you to "go read" anyways. In fact, the Canadian Airsoft Newbie Guide specifically says right near the beginning that "If it's your FIRST gun, buy an AEG. If you buy a sniper rifle or Gas Blow Back without ever having played, you'll instantly find yourself outgunned. And since you're asking what the best gun is. You probably don't want that to happen. Best way to see the guns is to come out to a game. You don't have to play, and most people will let you hold/shoot their weapon."

Are you planning to be a full time sniper? If not stay away from rifles, get one when you have alot of money to spend. Or actually plan to be a sniper. And if you really want to be a sniper, not any one can, so think harder. And if you still want to be a sniper, read more reviews on the gun (vsr-10) Cuss the one in RR isn't that great of a review, iv seen more with better information. (i think :P)

Yes i'm gonna be a full time sniper and i just read a lot of others review of the gun (vsr-10) they all say its a good gun so why not ? 400$ for a good sniper fully upgradable is something attravtive no ?

the main point of me asking you question about guns was : I wanted to know if someone got a bad experience with this gun ... i want answers like : "oh yeah its really a good move to buy this !" or "man this gun is so awful even the best sniper couldnt aim at 10 meters " :)


thx ;)

AEGs dont make great snipers, heck, unles syou upgrade, snipers dont sniper very well...
just grab any AEG, toss on a scope for looks, and get a tightbore. same as anyother gun, with all the advantages and disadvantages.

http://x7.putfile.com/9/26218311057.jpg
my set-up
great assault rifle, great sniper rifle
all around good.

Dinendal, since you've never been around airsoft, here's a little reality check to help you with your decision:

Fields in Quebec and Ontario generally have a limit of 400 FPS for AEGs and 450 FPS for bolt action sniper rifles. Practically, the 50 FPS difference works out to maybe what, about a 20 meter range increase, maybe? (I know it's debatable, but average and ballpark...)

Now, armed with your ~15-20m advantage, if you're really proficient you'll be lucky to get off one shot per second (remember the spring is now upgraded and is now harder to cock). The guy on the other side (and he probably has buddies with him) is putting out ~700 RPM, or about 11 rounds per second. He doesn't need to be that accurate, he has volume on his side.

I strongly recommend an AEG as a first gun.

The hardest thing to get through your head when you are trying to get into the sport is that all the guns are the same. Now I know that they are not all exactly similar but anything with a barrel over about 11 inches will do the job. The mp5K and g3sas are very small barrelled gun, but anything from an mp5 to a m16 fire with the relatively same accuracy left stock. Upgrading a longer barrel will help you gain accuracy and fps, but the results are minimal. You should not be shooting for the head. One shoot anywhere will work. Plus once the BB leaves the barrel it is at the mercy of the wind. With range and accuarcy being minimal factors volume is what is important.
When choosing a gun, ask yourself what you are going to be playing most, CQB or woodland, and maybe the most important question of all, what gun looks the best to you.
An mp5 works just as well as a m4a1 in woodland as does. The m4 preform just as good as an m16, unless you are going to getting picky about a couple of inches from 30 meters.

That rant being done, the aug would be a great choice. Long barrel if you buy all that stuff, but still in a small package.

Dinendal... two recommendations; read more, type less. Your questions are already answered on this website.

Another recommendation; go to a game, see stuff in person, and make up your mind. At the same time, get age-verified.

Ok? So start reading the Frequently Asked Questions, the Reviews, etc.

Why? Because your questions get asked Every Week or even Every DAY by almost All the newbies. This is becoming spoonfeeding, we dont like doing it.

not to be mean, but people are answering the questions. thats the neat thing, it would seem that with all the people playing airsoft in canada, some actually like to answer questions, even if its the same one over and over.

wheres my darn G symbol pics?

um was the rushing sniper comment CS inspired? just wondering thats all. I recommend an M4

keeping in mind the M4 barrel wobble in TMs

being a sniper can get kinda slow unless your in big operations, for for regular games, some that are very short, sniping isnt time effective. When the game starts and if over in 5min, the sniper doesnt get much action all the time. having an AEG upgraded with a scope allows you to have the sniper feel and be able to join in on the fast paced action.

by rushing i assume he means being able to go toe to toe with assault weapons

No rushing is a video game term. It means to run out in the open spraying at every opponent you see. Or moving quickly to a known bottle kneck and killing as many as you can before going down.

He'll learn fast that this is not a video game nor paintball and there are no bottle knecks in a wooded area.

In CQB I've used 'rushing' to great effect. Nothing better than you and 3 of your team mates taking the enemy by surprise by running up on their base (and taking over) before they know what's happened... Game was won in 5 minutes or so, with very low casualties...

Rushing seems paintballish. I dunno why but everytime i hear rushing I think of paintballers fighting in a confined space trying to fight each other off during a game of CTF maybe its cuz i don't know much about paint ball but thats what TV showed me. I agree with dirty deeds on rushing ya know. Its too video gamish too ohh..Zerg Rush...ohhh flamethrower rush...dumass...no offence i'm just making fun of video games

Keeping on subject, I would definatly recomend a G36 as his first gun.

If you plan on being a full time sniper, buy the G36 to get the feel of the game and play assault for at least 1 season. Use that time to get more cash and build your ghillie suit, because you will need both.

Than, when you have at least 800$ (for a used upgraded sniper rifle) or 1500$ for a new with upgrades sniper rifle, you will be ready to learn to snipe.

That's about what I did. Im now a full time sniper. I get a lot of kills and I enjoy the game more than anything else. I started with an AEG, wich I use in CQB now. Use it to learn the game, feel the ranges and ballistics. Most importantly, see how your prays behave! ;-)

AEG: G36 (best all around gun)
Sniper rifle: CA M24 is the standard workhorse of the sniping buisness.
Lot's of APS2 too.

Complete AEG kit for a season including everything except BBs and games fees: 1500$
(AEG, 1hicap or a couple of lowcaps, battery, charger, BDU, vest, goggles)
Complete sniper kit for a season excepting BBs and game fees: 2000+$
(ghillie suit, upgraded rifle, bush utility)

After one season, you can sell your AEG kit or keep it for CQB.

You wanted opinion, that was mine. ;-)

Some people type to answer questions, and some people type to whine and bitch about not wanting to answer questions (that were already answered anyway) instead of ignoring the thread. :smack: