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Raylan February 18th, 2013 09:50

WE vs TM Glock 18c
 
Hi everyone.
I'm obviously new to forum, so nice to be here!

This a very newbie question so I thought I would try to post it here as I can't seem to find a clear answer to it.

I am looking to buy a Glock 18c Airsoft GBB pistol.
From all I have read, the top 2 contenders are:
Tokyo Marui Glock 18c
WE Glock 18c

The Pluses so far for the WE is the much lower price and fact that it comes with a metal slide and outer barrel and the materials used have been reviewed well. About $250 for all that seems great.
The Minuses I can see is that WE does not have the Glock markings on the slide or the base.

For the TM the pluses are the "reputation" of being the best.
The Minuses are that fact that it is all plastic and cost $300+. If I add in the metal slide and barrel upgrade plus recoil spring, I am looking at $450+ total!

I have read good things about the WE Gen4 Glocks, but I have yet to see a head to head comparison of the 2 guns. If in the end the internals are comparable and the durability is about the same. Then it would just come down to paying for the official Glock markings? $200+ is big difference.

What is the prevailing opinion?
Any Help appreciated!
All the best

Uberg33k February 18th, 2013 09:52

I found the WE Tech version felt like a toy. Didn't like it at all. But I haven't tried the TM version, maybe someone else can chime in as well.

Raylan February 18th, 2013 09:55

Thanks!

Uberg33k February 18th, 2013 09:56

I'd go check it out yourself though. You personally may like it. I find these sort o things are very subjective.

Doombringer February 18th, 2013 09:58

Well reputations aren't built out of nothing. Whenever you buy Tokyo Marui, you will always get a quality product. AEGs and/or GBBs. Yes the slide is plastic but it's high quality plastic and they feel great. They shoot straight and are very reliable.

If you can afford a TM, get one.

Raylan February 18th, 2013 10:00

Thanks a lot.
Have you had the chance to shoot both guns?

Doombringer February 18th, 2013 11:14

No, not with WE. I have 2 TM (1 GBB and 1 AEG) and both are wonderful, I also used to have 2 KJW glock and you can really tell the difference between the quality of a lesser, yet acceptable brand like KJW and Tokyo Marui.

Kozzie February 18th, 2013 11:33

Definitely TM over WE any day. KSC IMO makes the second best glocks on the market.
I would consider KSC long before WE. Glock 17>18

TM
- better hop-up design = more accurate/better range
- more aftermarket parts available
- stock plastic slide is "oversized" = can have issues fitting in unmodified plastic holsters e.g. Serpa
- more expensive if you want metal slide

KSC
- stock metal slide
- stock 1:1 dimensions
- better trades
- better than WE

Raylan February 18th, 2013 11:50

Great! Thanks so much for the advice.
Do you know a supplier for KSC Glock 18c Gen 4 in Canada?
And is the KSC compatible with TM after market upgrades?
Also one more question. I have read that there are some issued with the KSC rate of fire selector switch. Don't know if this is true but someone said that it can fall out and you can't change rate of fire without the slide being a particular position and you can't change on the fly.
Thanks very much again!

turok_t February 18th, 2013 11:57

I have handled and worked with both WE and TM G18c. The TM is by far much better, even tho the WE comes with metal slide and outer barrel, it's cheap pot metal that scratches easily. The TM although plastic slide has a plethora of upgrade parts, more reliable and consistent.

Uberg33k February 18th, 2013 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raylan (Post 1762313)
Great! Thanks so much for the advice.
Do you know a supplier for KSC Glock 18c Gen 4 in Canada?
And is the KSC compatible with TM after market upgrades?
Also one more question. I have read that there are some issued with the KSC rate of fire selector switch. Don't know if this is true but someone said that it can fall out and you can't change rate of fire without the slide being a particular position and you can't change on the fly.
Thanks very much again!

Toronto Airsoft carries them. I was just in there about to buy one and I didn't like the toy like feel. But I own the XDM Compact from WE Tech and the Glock 23 from KJ Works and love them both. Head over to TA when you get the chance and see for yourself.

EDIT: They carry the WE Tech models not the others though as far as I know. Maybe turok_t can verify that. ;)

Swattiger February 18th, 2013 14:07

Due to the use of low grade pot metal, WE guns often break much earlier than you expect Vs other brands and has let down many excited players.

They are cheap and feel great at the first glance but this good factors are often totally offset by the disappointment they bring to you later.

TM, like other airsoft guns will break but only after a much longer use.

hattrick February 18th, 2013 14:22

Im suprised a certian someone hasnt chimed in about the MAJOR flaw in the WE design that results in a broken loading nozzle regardless how many times you replace it.....

There is a fix...but I still say they're complete and utter shit.

Look in the doctor section of the forum for all the details. I can't be bothered to tell every new memeber the same thing over and over again. Buy cheep buy twice.

SuperHog February 18th, 2013 14:42

If you aren't already aware, VFC just released a Glock as well with the all trades. I am getting that one for sure over a WE or KSC.

Stark Arms / VFC Glock 19 (G19) airsoft pistol - YouTube

Raylan February 18th, 2013 14:42

Looks like I'll go with the TM. Sounds like you get what you pay for.
Thanks guys!

LocoYokoPoco February 18th, 2013 15:21

I've owned TM Glock 17 and now own a WE G17. Externally, the TM definitely feels a lot better than the WE. WE Feels like it's made of cheap plastic.

That being said, in the performance category, the WE actually is able to hold it's own. The WE is propane ready out of the box, and is actually very consistent in velocity and accuracy. On the other hand, the plastic slide on my TM broke within a month's use on propane, which forced me to spend $70 on a metal slide.

At the end of the day if your budget isn't restricted, then get the TM and a metal slide, or use duster gas. If you're on a tighter budget, get the WE; it can handle propane out of the box, and performs almost as good as a stock TM.

Raylan February 18th, 2013 15:23

Sorry Superhog, We must have posted at the exact same time.
Where is the VFC 18C available in Canada? They look well made!
Is there much in the way of after market upgrades etc?
I'd like to check it out?

SuperHog February 18th, 2013 16:45

It is new. There are a lot of dealers in Canada that sell the VFC Glock once supplies are available.

As for upgrades, I am sure it will exist. Look at the KRISS Vector, upgrades are already showing up in the market.

The VFC Glock looks solid and well made. I have several VFC's and will buy this for sure.

Ricochet February 18th, 2013 17:08

Quality, effectiveness, longevity wise; then Tokyo Marui is the way to go.

There are a few good pistol companies that you can trust, WE is not on that list. Every WE pistol I've seen has been plagued by one issue or another, or several. WE guns often feel more realistic as Tokyo Marui guns are made of plastic, but the trade off is a train wreck waiting to happen.

This is just my opinion from personal experience. But I've also owned, used, a seen many in action from either side; and the results are always the same.

Raylan February 18th, 2013 18:34

Thanks so much guys.
Really appreciate the help!
Superhog - please give me a heads up if hear of a deal in the GTA selling VFC Glocks.
I'd love to check one out before I commit.
All the best

Raylan February 19th, 2013 10:09

Silly question no doubt but...
How are the Skeleton Sidearms Glock 18C?

Invasian February 19th, 2013 10:18

TM or go home!


Lol


Raylan February 19th, 2013 10:39

I was afraid of as much.

Ricochet February 19th, 2013 12:10

A decent alternative is a KSC, or a KWA ATP. The ATP is not called a glock for legal reasons, but it's based off of a Glock 18, and is quite ergonomic.


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