Is this enough gear to get started?
 

Total newb here just ordering my first supply drop. Figured Id check for some wisdom and see if Im doing this right. Looking to get into milsim games(when they pop up) and be skirmish ready for some local screwing around around Calgary (mostly outdoors hopefully)


1st AEG- VFC SCAR L
Eye pro, face protection
BBs
1-2 extra mags- which ones derp
Battery/charger?

Im stuck on battery and charger as this thing doesnt come with either. I have no clue what to use actually

As well- I should get midcaps, right?


Stoked to get this thing ordered! help appreciated!

you might want to get some BDU or combat pants at least to hold those mags. boots are a must if you plan to play anywhere other than flat concrete. i went to an outdoor game last year, thought i was smart and could wing the boots for the game and almost twisted by left ankle. but other than that, i think you should be good to go.

there shouldnt be a question mark after battery and charger. those and an AEG go hand in hand.

airsoft parts has a reasonable smart charger for around 30 bucks. Depending on where the battery goes on a scar, an 8.4 or 9.6v nimh would be fine.

need ye some good ol' boots
I'd say a belt and dump pouch to hold/dump mags more than you need a BDU :)

I hate hi-caps cause they rattle so much and the mag tickling is irritating. I prefer mid caps since you get neither of those issues, just toss in a new mag and you good to go. I think the Scar L comes with a hi-cap does it not? I'd get about 3 extra mags if you're doing field though it is late in the season...

Boots- granted.

I really like the idea of getting a dump pouch and a belt. Im really not into getting a vest. cheers!

Last I heard was that Stealth was looking into getting batteries and chargers. He's a good guy and definitely knows his stuff.

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=140087

Otherwise Hobby King has RC chargers and RC/Airsoft Lipo's. I got the Turnigy Accucel-6 but other popular chargers include the iMAX B6 and GT-Power A-6-10 or whatever that is. Then there's the Hobby King "Eco6". They're all more or less the same thing.

Also, yes midcaps are recommended (used to do the realcap thing but I find mids more versatile since if needed I can just load them up with 30 rounds anyways, and I like to load them up with a few more rounds (50 BB's) if I'm going for realism since it gives me more BB's to punch through thick brush and extra BB's for the last 4 that don't feed fully into the hop up chamber). I exclusively run midcaps. I've never owned a hi-cap in my life.

Cool Ill check out hobby king.


What kind/size of BBs- does it matter? I was just gonna buy a jug along with my order

You'll want 6-8 midcaps or 8-10+ lowcaps for magazines if you're going to game with them in a milsim or longish type of game.

Indoor .20 recommended because they don't carry as much energy over distance (they bleed power/energy over distance) and it's moreso for safety than anything because accuracy isn't as much of a bid deal if you're shooting at 60 feet at most.

Outdoor your choice of .25 of .28. Personally I run .28 but they can be a bit slow for people (however give you extra punching power for going through thicker brush and give you a generally longer effective range on your gun (but decreases max range)). Most people will use .25 outdoors though.

One more thing I do typically treat my midcaps like low caps (~68 rounds) but I do sometimes load them up to the full 120 rounds. It really depends what I'm playing and the situation. I really like them because they're versatile.

6mm BBs only! Don't bother with 8mm and 4.5mm are metal. BB Bastard Bb's ares the best. Use the weights posted above.

BTW if you're in Calgary.... If you're ever near Red Deer "Bent Barrel Airsoft" (owned by Darklen an Admin here on the forums) has Green Devil BB's. They're pretty awesome and quite popular in Europe (I used them for a few games when I was playing in Europe). Personally I use a Madbull BB's a lot though mainly because they're easily accessible to me.

+1

Bent Barrel and Green Devils FTW

Won't state the obvious about wearing appropriately warm/dry clothing, hats/gloves/etc....you'll figure that stuff out pretty quick especially in the colder months.

If you're really pinching pennies and/or looking for a minimalist setup, you might want to take a look at "old" US/British webbing. Phenomenally flexible and quite cost effective. Packs down really well and doesn't take up huge amounts of space.

Or a "battle belt" where you can mount pouches/stuff right on the belt.

Don't forget about carrying water, any immediately necessary meds, a snack, kill rag. Really handy stuff, that you might not need for each game, are a pocket knife, compass, radio, pen/paper, flashlight, glowstick, tape, bit of rope....it's much easier to leave this stuff in your kit than to rummage around trying to find it all and stuff it into your pockets.

Get a good smart charger. It pays for itself by not killing your batteries. I don't know the options and price points now for these...the B6 charger is a great choice though. Buy good (G&P, Intellect, etc) NiMh batteries if you're not getting LiPo.

Get good quality BBs...BBBastard are great, Madbull are fine. Don't sweat getting a few more for a few bucks less...it's not a big deal in the grand scheme. Go for whichever is convenient since that's what you're probably going to buy in hurry when you next run out.

6mm plastic only. 0.20g for indoors...0.25g or heavier for outdoors (and indoors if they'll let you).

I don't know if your gun will come with a bb loader...but you'll want one.

How about eye pro?

Some of these options are $100-$125 is that what I should be looking at?

I dont really want normal safety glasses more into the goggle style for complete coverage

Most fields will only let you use full seal goggles (and you'd be an idiot not to wear them).
You can get some really inexpensive used ESS goggles off ebay. I bought a group of 5 for under $40.

The level of face protection is up to you.

No amount of gear is ever enough gear. Always more gear!... always more.


Mid-Caps yes, High-Caps NO! Mids are more flexible than Low-Caps. Depending on what kind of games you play you may want as many as 6-8 Mid-Caps, time will tell.

With that many mags to juggle you'll want a dump pouch but make sure you have the mag pouches for the mags first. MOLLE is your friend.

Revision Desert Locust goggles with a mesh lower or JT Spectra flex 8 mask with thermal lens are good options. Both can be worn as goggles only or with face pro. I usually don't wear face pro outdoors. The revisions and type 1 mesh mask will give you the best vision and cheek weld.

m102 etc has it bang on, a good smart charger will pay for itself. Intellect batteries or G&P which seem to use intellect cells anyways. I'm very pleased with my Onyx charger, the 220 is a good option for Nickel batteries only, the 235 does Nickel, LiPo & LiFe. You can find them online or at your local hobby shop. Just make sure you get a charger/balancer if you're going LiPo. An extra battery rarely hurts.

I also use Bastard and Madbull bb's, my preference is to bastards but you take what you can get.

I love the people stopping in to warn the guy that is getting full face protection and specifically mentioning that he is getting goggles for reasons of increased coverage/protection....

Those pictures are awesome!


Thanks man I actually went for the revision locus + full face/ear mesh protection. I wanted an excuse to get a nice pair of glasses for shooting anyways and found them to be slightly less outrageously expensive on opticsplanet.com


Just ordered some bastards as recommended! The LiPo vs Nimh is gonna take some pondering and a few threads to read before I make the call for sure.

If you find the full sized mask interferes with your cheek weld try the smaller one w/out the ears. I started with the larger mask for the greater protection and fount it to be too cumbersome. I switched to the no ears version and was pleasantly surprised how much easier it was to shoot my weapon.

edit: I wear shooting glasses when playing outdoor and full seal goggles aren't required. The more you get "used" to being shot the less pro you feel you need but you're taking your chances. Best to start with full protection and remove stuff if you're comfortable.

http://armyissue.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/2186
I wear those ballistic goggles and pretty cheap too
I got a big face to match my big head so I get shot there a lot :|

Vests offer you chest protection from BBs btw...if you don't like you can always do fast mags on your belt :)

Be weary of ESS (fuck do I hate to say that) The quality of their glasses/goggles has gone to shit since Oakley bought them.

I still swear by my old pair of ICE glasses (bought back in 2005) but after talking to retailers and reading about problems on here I switched to Smith glasses.

I'd be testing those glasses before you used them at a game.

Desert Locust are probably the most popular goggle out there for airsoft. The face mesh I would advise you to modify it to fit the goggle or you will hate the damn thing as they do not line up well together at all.

Also depending on where you are going to play some indoor fields want you to buy their field bb's. People are saying buy 8-10 midcaps....you really don't need that much to start out with. 3 or 4 120rounders should start you off just fine. Buy GOOD ones right from the start. I suggest Magpul PTS pmags 120rd. Best mag out there.

And as others have suggested good boots or you will find yourself in the hospital with a sprained/broken ankle. I like Magnum boots myself. You will be buying stuff FOREVER so be modest until you know exactly what you want/need.

I've switched my M4 to midcaps this past spring - 5x120 rounds at present. I got tired of the tactical maracas, and noobie time was over. I'm in the process of switching fully over to midcaps on my M14 and still have yet to deal with my Mp5 .. but that's a loaner gun i've yet to personally field in a year.

I must confess though - I haven't entirely abandoned hi-caps. I still fill one up for the M4 and put it in my pouch. An emergency back-up, if you will. Stuffed full, it doesn't rattle, if it isn't used. I've gone to it twice in the past year of skirmishes.

Saves me from having to go back to the staging area, mid game.

Well my friend was talked out of wearing face protection by someone that claimed getting shot in the face is rare.

My friend now has dental bill for an implant.

You can get a decent vietnamese knock off, chinese knock off, molle vest off ebay for 17-25 bucks. A must have!!

Yea i bought my o/d ess goggles for $25 off ebay. Just make sure to take all the foam insulationout as it tends to fog up ur goggles