hk 416 which one??
 

i need you help i search since a few weeks for an hk416 but i dont know which one is better than other....

i practice milsim since 5-6 year in paintball

i want an hk416 for traning so i want a 450fps gun! i know the dont have it brand new but ill upgrade it! ( if you could help me with this too)

ill do winter traning to ( if this change something for batterie or something)

im new in airsoft world so i need your help !

thanks in advance

jeanson

Where are you going to use a 450fps gun? More importantly, what venue would allow you to field a 450fps gun?

ya no kidding, and VFC is prolly the best hands down.

Hands down vfc just researched this myself.

VFC stock shoots pretty close to that

Game already past, but 450FPS
http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=142265

traning like i said! not on a field at my home in my wood!

i leave somewhere who no one make a game and no one have airsoft!

Thank you for the heads-up. I would suggest that in the example of that particular event, 450fps is very much the exception, rather than a norm. 400fps and less commonly 425fps, is usually the hard limit for most outdoor fields. 450fps to 500fps is usually limited to bolt-action type sniper systems.

Upgrading a rifle to 450fps, especially if it's your sole primary, would be severely limiting your selection of games that you can attend with it. In the OP's claimed use for it, i suppose it doesn't matter.

450fps not for game

ill downgrade de fps if i would game with it!

What do you mean for 'training'? Training for what?

If your doing training try a WE 416 GBBR it will feel more like the real thing

yea i know....but i dont know .....

co2 or green gaz or propane.....in winter condition....
its always blow my o-ring remote.....dont imagine the time those mag will leak..
but i dont know i never have one....a friend of me have a gbbr and he says it capricious....

for sure i better love the sound of a gbbr than an aeg!

short story.

for my girl friend i move at 650km from where i lived and since this time a can not play every week as before.

it cost me 250-300$ of gaz + lunch+the cost of a paitball milsim game and so on...

so i train on human target on plywood! (dont wana rust)

on some site i find 37-390 fps and an other 435fps...

dnc understand and for the mag want to know if all m4 mag will work? i know its look like the same magwell but could be different!

i preferer real cap!

They take STANAG (M4) mags as well as Emags but not Pmags. WE can be found at quite a lower price than the VFC ones (which are the best AEG HK416s on the market). I just bought the VFC 416 and I can tell you it's amazing.

Please dont make it 450 fps. That will not make it a good gun.
You have 2 options
Dboys 416. Cheap, so it leaves room for upgrades. This is what i would do.
Or VFC which you could probably just run stock. Up to you.
And you sound kinda... ...french. Dont be afraid to ask questions in french. Penth of french speaking Canadian on this site.

i know my english ist so good but more people could answer me that way....i think.... its sure before upgrade it ill try it stock....

If it really is for real steel trainng the GBBR is the way to go.

VFC for Gucci Looks.

WE Open Bolt HK416 for use in winter(co2) and harder kick.

if i chose gbbr the probleme of leaking wil be only the mag?

can i have leak in the gun itself?

what the diference betwin the open/close bolt?? exept one open one close??

Gas is stored in the mags. They are the primary source of leaking. But mags are serviceable and sealable. Leaking comes from failed seals/orings or damaged full or flow/rocket valves.

A leak in the gun would be more so that you broke something. Happens but much less likely than a mag leaking on you.

Closed bolt = brass cylinder inside the ejection port. You cannot see the mags feed lips or confirm if there is a round loaded or not.

Open bolt = no brass cylinder. System is much like that of a gbb pistol. Mag feeds lips are visible and you can quickly identify if a round is chambered.

ok so no one is beter than the other it just depend what i want!

if you could let me a link of those mag co2/propane green gaz it could help! not always sure if its the goo one !

thank you everyone its apreciate!

we open bolt gas mag - http://www.revolutionairsoft.com/WE-...lt-_p_261.html

we open bolt co2 mag - http://www.revolutionairsoft.com/WE-...lt-_p_262.html

they also have a WE HK4168 on that site for a pretty damn good price. looks like Toronto Airsoft has some competition now. :)

Both have their quirks but both are fantastic and reliable with a little/proper TLC.

I'd recommend going with the open bolt as it's a simpler system if you are new to GBBR's and there will be less need to upgrade out of the box. Also, open bolt seems to be the market norm now and closed bolt will eventually become a thing of the past.

Finally! Somebody who gets it!

not sure of what you realy say... or the main purpose...

what did you think of this?
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=146601

open bolt mag will work with close bolt?

the price is good?

Open bolt mags will not work with closed bolt guns and vice versa. But, you can convert them by simply swapping feed lips and follower. The kits are fairly cheap.

we open bolt 322$
vfc open bolt 534$

vfc is that much better for the price??

You need to decide whether you want a GBBR or AEG.

he's talking about VFC H416 GBBR me thinks :)

haha vfc all the way.....aeg or gbbr dont know..... they had this guy in montreal that make a good deal for is gbbr......i think ill try it and how know it!

im going to try a vfc gbbr close bolt an maybe bough it this weekend!

No mention of the SRC gen 3 hk416. Anyone wanna sound off?



Also- is it possible to pull the bottom and side rails off of the hk416? They would serve 0 purpose but weight for me

the rails on a 416 are integrated in the handguard, it's one big cnc machined piece.