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Barf October 15th, 2012 03:45

[Article] Coming in with a bang: Toronto’s secretive airsoft community gives a glimpse into increasingly popular sport
 
Coming in with a bang: Toronto’s secretive airsoft community gives a glimpse into increasingly popular sport

It is early evening in downtown Toronto. A group of men clad in black military-style body armour huddle against a grimy wooden wall, clutching rifles in their gloved hands. The team leader points at the darkened doorway ahead, and one of his commandos lobs what appears to be a hand grenade.

The device lands with a thundering crash and the team pours through the doorway, rifles aimed forward, muzzles slicing the air. The team leader spots the silhouette of a man through the darkness and prepares to squeeze the trigger, but it is too late. The thud of a shot against his own armour is undeniable. He falls down dead.

While this scene may resemble a police raid gone wrong, it is actually an elaborate simulation acted out by members of Toronto’s secretive airsoft community. A sport similar to paintball, airsoft uses projectile weapons that look identical to real firearms — but instead of bullets, they fire small spheres of plastic called BBs at a significantly slower speed.

Long popular in Europe and Asia, airsoft has only recently taken root in Canada, growing slowly over the past decade. Toronto now hosts one of the country’s most vibrant scenes: Several paintball fields are catering to the increasing demand for airsoft space, and Toronto’s first airsoft-exclusive venue, Ultimate Airsoft, opened last week near Downsview Park.

“Every year, we get huge growth. We’re moving to bigger and bigger locations,” says Toronto Airsoft owner Frank Chong, 27, as customers bustle through his showroom, the city’s largest walk-in airsoft store.

“You can definitely see the size of the market when you go to games,” he says. “It’s gotten bigger. When I started playing, it was about 15 or 20 people, if you were lucky enough to get the game going that weekend. You would know all the same faces. Now you’ve got double or triple that spread out across several games every weekend.”

Mr. Chong is one of several airsoft enthusiasts who agreed to a rare interview with the National Post. Many participants remain reluctant to discuss the sport openly, for fear the general public may not understand or accept it — particularly in a city scarred by a recent string of high-profile gun crimes.

Airsoft was stuck in legal limbo for years as Ottawa contemplated whether airsoft guns — which fire BBs at around 300 feet per second, fast enough to raise a welt on unprotected skin — should be classified as replica firearms or uncontrolled firearms. Airsoft guns are different from traditional BB guns, which fire smaller metal pellets at a higher velocity.

Most airsoft guns now fall into the category of uncontrolled firearms, allowing regular citizens to bring them across Canada’s borders. With importation becoming easier, prices for airsoft equipment have plummeted to about $250 from $600 for basic models, bringing a wave of new, younger players into the sport.

“We have scary-looking things to sell,” Mr. Chong acknowledges. “We don’t parade our existence around. You don’t want a bunch of high-school kids walking by and seeing a bunch of guns on the door.”

York Regional Police Constable Blair McQuillan says officers have received reports about airsoft guns in the past — including a call in August for someone armed with an assault rifle who turned out to be an airsoft enthusiast. Police treat such calls “very seriously” until determining whether the weapon is real, Const. McQuillan says. In the United States, the guns have orange tips to identify them as toys, but no such rule exists in Canada.

“We tell people that if they want to use these things at a sanctioned airsoft game … that’s fine. But if you’re going to walk down a major urban street with it, people are going to be upset. They’re going to be calling us,” Const. McQuillan says, citing a potential for the guns to be used for criminal purposes.

“It is obviously a concern for the police and the public,” he adds. “These things are readily available.”

Located in an inconspicuous brown brick building in the area of Geary and Ossington avenues, Toronto Airsoft is a slice of heaven for the sport’s enthusiasts. Gleaming guns nestle inside immaculate glass cases, while competition-style pistols are stacked in a central display. Shotguns and sniper rifles hang on hooks along the wall.

For Mr. Chong, airsoft is not just a business: It is his passion. He first played the sport as a 9-year-old boy in Hong Kong, chasing his brother around the house with a spring-powered gun. Today, he says his Toronto Airsoft store has grown dramatically since its launch in 2008, with guns flying off the shelves.

“As long as you can educate the new players properly, growth is a good thing,” he says. “There are certain laws and regulations you have to abide by. We have to explain the seriousness of owning these things. It’s a responsibility.”

A few minutes’ walk from Toronto Airsoft, the Fighting Arts Collective sits at the top of a narrow, drab staircase hidden among a cluster of old industrial buildings and auto repair garages.

Inside, a large open space serves as a training area, with worn-down hardwood flooring that creaks underfoot.

Brian McIlmoyle, 46, is a martial arts instructor here, as well as the director of TTAC3, an airsoft group housed in the same space. Dressed in khakis and a navy baseball cap, Mr. McIlmoyle chats about his introduction to airsoft, while men wearing pistol holsters filter in and out of his office lounge.

A former reserve second lieutenant until he retired in 1992, Mr. McIlmoyle says he came across airsoft by chance while researching a real firearm online.

“Once I realized these things existed, I quickly saw their potential as a training tool,” he says. “I already had this space, so I immediately started planning a facility wherein we could train and practice close-quarters combat using airsoft as firearm simulators.”

Asked why more young Torontonians have shown an interest in airsoft in recent days, Mr. McIlmoyle is blunt.

“Young men like guns. That’s basically it,” he says with a grin. “You look at all the entertainment for the demographic of 18 to 35 males, generally speaking, it’s focused on shooting things.… With airsoft, you’re putting down the controller. You also find out that you’re not as good as you are in a video game.”

ShelledPants October 15th, 2012 03:56

Look at those guys, so cool!
:D

Jamroxorz October 15th, 2012 05:16

Awesome article! This is great!

Mordarski J.A. October 15th, 2012 06:37

Excellent read! We definitely need more articles like this. I think the best part (which the general public will probably overlook, but that is a completely different argument) is where Frank Chong stated “As long as you can educate the new players properly, growth is a good thing. There are certain laws and regulations you have to abide by. We have to explain the seriousness of owning these things. It’s a responsibility.”

Excellent post Barf!

Thenooblord October 15th, 2012 08:05

very good article, nice to see some good press out there

Desmodus October 15th, 2012 08:54

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Originally Posted by Mordarski J.A. (Post 1714010)
Excellent read! We definitely need more articles like this. I think the best part (which the general public will probably overlook, but that is a completely different argument) is where Frank Chong stated “As long as you can educate the new players properly, growth is a good thing. There are certain laws and regulations you have to abide by. We have to explain the seriousness of owning these things. It’s a responsibility.”

Excellent post Barf!

This. I too am glad they mentioned that, very important point.

Shared this on FB, hopefully it'll educate some people.

Juic3 October 15th, 2012 09:42

For once we are not depicted has gansters or terrorist that frighten soccer moms...

Gotrice23 October 15th, 2012 09:52

LOL @ the comments.

MultipleParadox October 15th, 2012 09:53

Nice article indeed

Reading the comments below it is less encourageing (typo?) though, seeing how people can't make an effort and think with their head... oh well

FirestormX October 15th, 2012 11:54

That was a pretty positive article. We shot that poor photographer a few times that night at TTAC3.

Gish October 15th, 2012 12:16

Good article but this one line kind of stands out to me

Quote:

Mr. Chong is one of several airsoft enthusiasts who agreed to a rare interview with the National Post. Many participants remain reluctant to discuss the sport openly, for fear the general public may not understand or accept it
If we want people to understand/accept what we do why are people still reluctant to discuss it openly. There's nothing for us to hide so why keep it under our hats like in the old days where it was basically illegal to own airsoft. With all the changes to laws we should be more open and vocal to the general public.
In my opinion the more that the general public knows about what we do and as long as we are open the better.

I do like the quote further down the article

Quote:

“As long as you can educate the new players properly, growth is a good thing,” he says. “There are certain laws and regulations you have to abide by. We have to explain the seriousness of owning these things. It’s a responsibility.”
This is an excellent attitude that every airsofter should share.

FirestormX October 15th, 2012 12:19

The secrecy and "rare interview" thing seemed kind of odd to me. I read through this overly-vocal forum daily, and seen plenty of interviews with Brian over the years, so I can't imagine that everyone is so quiet and secretive if someone were to actually ask questions.

Danke October 15th, 2012 12:20

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Originally Posted by Gish (Post 1714101)
Good article but this one line kind of stands out to me

If we want people to understand/accept what we do why are people still reluctant to discuss it openly. There's nothing for us to hide so why keep it under our hats like in the old days where it was basically illegal to own airsoft. With all the changes to laws we should be more open and vocal to the general public.
In my opinion the more that the general public knows about what we do and as long as we are open the better.

I think the best way to read that is the old saw "It's best to remain silent". Not all players can articulate the how and why as well as Brian. For every player like him there are dozens of hotheads. There are many people on this site I wouldn't want being quoted in the press about airsoft.

Viperfish October 15th, 2012 12:23

Hey look my Tornado made the news!

Was fun having him there. Nothing like sliding down a hallway and almost shooting him just to hear the guy behind me pump rounds into him instead.

wildcard October 15th, 2012 12:26

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Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1714104)
I think the best way to read that is the old saw "It's best to remain silent". Not all players can articulate the how and why as well as Brian. For every player like him there are dozens of hotheads. There are many people on this site I wouldn't want being quoted in the press about airsoft.

Exactly, there are a few bad apples that exist in our community that will eventually ruin it for everyone here I wont call them out in the interest of not giving them a platform to perform their spin and asshattery but those who knew me know who I'm talking about. Until the general public can accept shooting sports/hobby as such we have to keep policing ourselves and keep it out of general population the bad press that follow the word "Gun" out weigh the good press like this and the sight of a bunch of guys in military outfit with realistic looking guns still strike fear in the public view, especially with all the anti gun advocates that holds seats in public office.

Jimski October 15th, 2012 12:28

some comments under the article are pretty dumb.

Danke October 15th, 2012 12:53

Any site that allows anonymous commentary garners that low IQ audience.

The only real fix is to tie it to a visible name like by Facebook. When that happens the bullshit trolling becomes negligible since people can't hide. It does not remove the idiots but it does force them show their face with their statement.

Jimski October 15th, 2012 12:59

yep.Anyway idiots should not discourage us.However I don't count on the press to make things any better for us.

DrDoUm October 15th, 2012 13:16

IMO the article and pictures would be pretty appealing to anyone who might have an interest in the sport. No matter the comments below the article...

Great initiative from those who accepted to be interviewed.

tygr701 October 15th, 2012 15:15

Good article to shed some light on our sport in Canada finally.

tygr701 October 15th, 2012 15:16

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Originally Posted by Viperfish (Post 1714107)
Hey look my Tornado made the news!

Was fun having him there. Nothing like sliding down a hallway and almost shooting him just to hear the guy behind me pump rounds into him instead.

lol figured that was yours. The only person who wraps pink tape on everything.

Viperfish October 15th, 2012 16:21

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Originally Posted by tygr701 (Post 1714192)
lol figured that was yours. The only person who wraps pink tape on everything.

Yup and to date iv never lost a tornado!

Janus October 15th, 2012 16:33

All six of my Tornados have that same flamingly gay pink on them and I've never lost one either. I even go as far as tagging the spoons and pins with the tape as well and since I've done that, I've never lost a pin.

Viperfish October 15th, 2012 20:13

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Originally Posted by Janus (Post 1714231)
All six of my Tornados have that same flamingly gay pink on them and I've never lost one either. I even go as far as tagging the spoons and pins with the tape as well and since I've done that, I've never lost a pin.

I do the same thing. As a matter of fact you can see the tape on the spoon in that picture.

MaciekA October 16th, 2012 21:36

The entire "secretive" angle to this article is bullshit. The journalist is trying to weave a web of mystique and exclusivity that simply isn't appropriate. I think that was just editorializing in action.

You couldn't possibly find a more welcoming, open and non-secretive community than this one, especially Brian and Frank who are excellent advocates for the game. Frank is understandably under-the-radar to some extent regarding his actual retail location, but the marketing, the Facebook groups, the contests, the YouTube channels, and everything else that goes on in this space is pretty much the complete opposite of secret/mysterious.

Perhaps the journalist was just excited to have discovered something genuinely interesting ...

L473ncy October 16th, 2012 21:47

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Originally Posted by FirestormX (Post 1714102)
The secrecy and "rare interview" thing seemed kind of odd to me. I read through this overly-vocal forum daily, and seen plenty of interviews with Brian over the years, so I can't imagine that everyone is so quiet and secretive if someone were to actually ask questions.

There's a reason why you get a salesman to sell your widgets and not your Engineers.

I once read a story about how some company once got their lead technical engineer to come in and pitch a client their program (because he knew the program the best, line by line at the low level) and needless to say it went horribly because Engineers typically aren't good at that kind of stuff unless they have training in public speaking and such. I guess the same would go for Tech Support, IT, Sysadmins, BOFH's, etc.

EDIT: @ MaciekA

I personally tend to be secretive about playing airsoft. However once I find someone who probably isn't an asshat and genuinely interested they're welcomed with open arms. I'm just too adverse of the risks of putting it out there and having some soccer mom bitch me out (how I'm the devil incarnate, a baby killer, a mass murderer, etc.). Honestly, if someone asks me why I enjoy airsoft in a condescending tone, my answer will probably be "because fuck you, that's why" (also my go to answer; for why I like "loud" pipes, why my code works and yours doesn't, why someones computer is slow, etc.).

Mordarski J.A. October 17th, 2012 07:36

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Originally Posted by L473ncy (Post 1714882)
I personally tend to be secretive about playing airsoft. However once I find someone who probably isn't an asshat and genuinely interested they're welcomed with open arms.

In some respects, I am the same way. I don't openly advertise every day that I play airsoft (then again, not having actually been out in over a year could mean I sort of don't LOL) but I do try to be open enough about the sport for information and as vocal as possible when it comes to discussing safety. I had a weapons call to one of our properties wherein it turned out was a couple of young kids playing with two clear-soft springers. There wasn't anything to actually pursue as there was no malice intended, however I did talk to the mother and "strongly urged" her to ensure they were wearing eye protection when playing. Just mentioning that I too played airsoft seemed to help a lot.

SuperHog October 18th, 2012 09:56

Well it is in print, National Post. Who reads newspapers these days?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10...popular-sport/

http://popularairsoft.com/news/toron...-national-post

"Secretive" = bad choice of words

"Main stream sport" would have been more positive

parks3 October 18th, 2012 10:38

Good press on the sport is what helps sway public opinion just as it did with paintball many decades ago. And it also helps when pressuring law makers who would negatively affect the sport. Anyone stupid enough to walk around or display in public anything close to resembling a firearm, IMO deserves to spend face time with TRU officers.

Question regarding this quote from the article;

"Most airsoft guns now fall into the category of uncontrolled firearms, allowing regular citizens to bring them across Canada’s borders. "

From reading in other forums I was to believe there is no hope at all of individuals getting airsoft guns in or at the very least they'd be sent off for testing with the RCMP and lost in space for months?

FirestormX October 18th, 2012 13:42

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Originally Posted by parks3 (Post 1715455)
or at the very least they'd be sent off for testing with the RCMP and lost in space for months?

For years, is more accurate.

If you have the documentation for the weapon, that states the gun's FPS (and if the border agent believes it), then you should have no problem bringing the weapon across the border.


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