Ladies and Airsoft
 

Hi everyone,

This is one of my first times posting here, I usually just read and enjoy. Lately my girlfriend has been bugging me to come play airsoft.

I was wondering if anyone out there who would have some tips for getting her started? More or less the gear side of things and possibly some newbie friendly games in the Toronto area.

Few more things,

- Would an MP5 style AEG be something appropriate for her to start with?
- Vests that fit well for ladies? ( she is concerned about her breasts being protected )
- A field ladies frequent?
- She is a little concerned with it being a mostly male sport and standing out
- Her size is 5'9 110 pounds ( if that helps )

These are just concerns off the top of my head. If I could get some input from any girls here who play, or males who have taken their girlfriends into the adventure of airsoft.

ANY help would be appreciated, thanks ASC.

My girlfriend has been out 3 times already and enjoys it.

Any gun would be good really. An MP5 is a fine rifle. I would say that something of the AR variety is fine as well. I just built a 7.5" SBR (mainly for shits and giggles) and that's light as hell and almost feels like a toy in my hands (and keep in mind this is all metal and the mags I'm using are weighted to a RS STANAG mag loaded with 30 rounds of .223 Rem.). My girlfriend actually used a 10.5 or 11.5 CQB M4 the times she went out. She also used my 14.5" M4 but she found it a bit long and "too heavy" (that's the rifle that I run my 9.6V 2800mAh NiMH PEQ battery on). My GF is about 5'7" and 130 lbs. and the 10.5" G&G half breed CQB-R was perfect for her according to her (although I'm wanting to get her into metal bodied guns). If you want to buy her something you could easily get a KA M4, buy a 10.5" outer barrel and find someone with a spare inner barrel or buy a shorter inner barrel to match the outer and you're pretty much good to go after that. Hell you could probably get away with a 14.5" barrel anyways.

As far as vests go, a Weesatch replica (or real stuff if you can afford it) with the panel up should do the trick. Might not be the lightest or totally high speed but it should protect well enough with the extra fabric.

As far as standing out... My girlfriend definitely stood out but blended into the field once they got playing. Also there was a standing order to not hit on her.

gun - anything she is comfortable using doesnt have to be an MP5
vest - i've seen a few girls run tactical vests and plate carriers, as for breast protection a decent BDU jacket will do the trick.
field - thats a tough one as I don't know toronto, we have a few guys up here who bring their wives/girlfriends out.
standing out - everybody ends up looking the same in tac gear

Once she gets out there and playing she will have fun. It is hard to tell a guy from a girl from a distance. Girls are just as good as the guys, maybe more patient at times.

Her starting equipment should be light so it does not wear her down during the day.

M4 is still one of the better choices for a rifle. Even a CQB length is light and can still reach long distance targets.

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Well, I don't have much in the way of advice, other than be ready for a bunch of pervy guys staring at her, except to say with a BMI at around 16, your girlfriend needs to put on some weight!

At the field that i play at (private Waterdown area field) there are a few ladies that have shown up with their lesser-halves - and no one has perved out on them in the least. The girls, once the equipment is donned, are nothing more than another set of boots on the ground, enjoying the sport alongside of their partners, just as much as the guys are. The closest thing to staring being done, is through a telescopic sight, along with the generalized thought process of "i wonder if i can hit that player, from here".

To the OP - find a field with generally mature players, more serious about the sport, and generally less inclined to be ogling the competition, male or female. They are out there.

As far as the weapon package goes - yes, an MP5 should be a good fit - but there is no reason why any other CQB'ish length weapon platform couldn't be considered. As it goes with the guys, so too it goes with the girls - it's more about personal preference, than physical ability to handle it, with any half-ways physically fit individual. Get to a shop, and try some guns on for both heft and ergonomic preference.

As for vest/chest-rig/plate carrier, again, it comes down to finding a selection at a brick and mortar store, and finding out what would work for her.

If she's cool...take her to a store with lots of guns...let her pick any of them, whatever she wants.

I will say this...the second last range day at TTAC there was a new girl there trying out everyone's gun. Loved it. From PTWs to WE M14's.

Then I handed over my kwa MP7 and she shot a couple of semis...then had her flip to full auto. She let it rip...actually giggled and smiled like crazy. I said to her, "the other guns don't make you do that do they?" to which she replied "No they don't".

Get her a sub gun. Gas powered for indoor cqb. Mp9, mp7, roni modded g18c if she's into futuristic looks. Light as hell, accurate enough, no recoil or aiming issues and just a lot of fun to shoot.

If it must be an aeg...let her hold, handle as many as possible. She might end up liking something weird like a p90.

And regardless of how she does you've got to say, "damn! I think you gun shoots better than mine". Prestaging the next gun purchase is key down the road....

At 5 foot 9 she can likely shoulder most guns out there as long as they're adjustable. I've noticed that girls interested in airsoft sometimes*misjudge what their restrictions will be in terms of gun length and weight and, I quote, "want something small". My wife, who weighs in 90lbs and 5 feet tall made the same decision -- MP5 -- but in the end she found she could properly hold my M4s with the stocks properly adjusted.

In this regard, a shorter female will do well with an M4 that has a stock that can be adjusted, unlike with the MP5. Note that many of the MP5s on the market, with the exception of the plastic Classic Army MP5K, are actually really heavy compared to many M4s.

My suggestion is a stubby M4 or perhaps the KAC PDW, which is very light and has a really comfortable center of gravity for ladies.

Also, I was able to find a great Condor rig for my wife that fit her just fine, PM me if you're interested in which one because I'll have to dig up the product name.

Ya, Agreed HackD. I did not realize our field is friendly for the ladies as well. Just figured it was normal. We do have ladies coming from time to time. All good.

All depends on the field and the atmosphere.

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100% agree. I've seen ladies at most games I've gone to this year, and the guys on the field have been very courteous and respectful. Renegade) ran a great milsim at Finch's a couple weekends ago where one of the girls played an integral part of his scenario and played the part well. I think we're ready for more people to bring their better halves out to the field.

Hill 437 is definitely the most everybody-knows-eachother and like a family type atmosphere I've seen out there, could have a lot to do with it.

Have your girlfriend talk to Barbie or Themis on here. They're girls and kick ass!

For my wife all she cared about was a nice light rig. So i gave her a simple tac vest and a mp5k. After awhile tho she didnt like how the mp5k had such low fps and I upgraded her to a TM desert Eagle and she loved it.

At 110lb how much protection could her breast need? lol

i did that with my gf...she ended up falling for the real sword type 97b

maybe...i shouldn't have brought her there...lol

but yes, let her try gear on and hold on to guns, they'll know what they like once they feel it.

My wife has only played indoor CQB and she's played dozens of times now.

At her first game I gave her a plastic bodied M4, cause it was the lightest gun I owned. But she found it too heavy and too long. So I ended up giving her a G18c to use which she loved because it was select fire.

But since then she's been using a 1911, and occasionally uses the G18c.

For gear, she's using a SEALS style vest, since those were the most adjustable. We've found they can be adjusted to the smallest size the best. And she's got all her own gear as well, helmet, facemask, gloves... any HK/CM knock off gloves sized M or S will fit small women's hands. I bought her a pair of knock off Oakley tactical gloves with the carbon fibre knuckles and she loved them.

At first she was using a facemask with mesh goggles, but she couldn't see down on her chest to grab new mags, so she uses a Brassguard mesh mask... one of those fencing style masks. And she loves that as well.

I suggest the Star G36. A very well built polymer body, quick change spring, and V3 gearbox. It's a well balanced gun, and shoots like a champ.

We've had a few woman out with us over the years. Airsoft is definitely a male dominated sport and most of the woman we've had were "one if the guys". So as long as they don't mind crawling through the mud with the rest of us, there is no problem. Also they are must be treated equally and fall within the same rules as the guys. She must be her own player out there; so no flying to her rescue if she accidently gets popped in the face. If she makes friends with the other players, they will hit on her; or become more relaxed around her with their sense of humor.

It's not usually the girl that has issues with this stuff, it's her boyfriend/husband. Which is why, after several failed attempts; we no longer allow couples on the field. You can be a man or woman, and will be treated fairly; but leave your other half at home. This is just our way due to consistent past experiences unfortunately.

The wife runs a m14 dmr or a tm sig 552. As for rigs I lost my eagle cras....

She never felt like an outsider while on the field. But then again he is used to sticking out being a machinist

I think it's safe to say being shot in the boobs equates to us guys being shot in the dick. Finding a small enough plate carrier would be a bit of an issue if she's really slim, you'd really have to bring her somewhere to have her try it on. Also a full face mask would probably be most beneficial.


As for gun selection, I've brought smallish girls to the field before, and they didn't mind using m4s, AKs or what not... the last girl I brought to the field thought my p90 was too cute to use. But just like the guys, once you pick it up and shoot a bit, it feels so nice easy to move around with.

Thats sad to hear....i guess everyones experience differs...

I know that when I assigned my GF to be the Nemesis (Invincible Menace) at my last pistol game...it was sure as shit fun as hell to be running at MACH 1 away from her to avoid getting shot multiple times in the ass...lol..cuz believe me....EVERYONE was running away....that made her presence even more enjoyable...to me at least...most guys on the field know Im her man..so i don't fret too much ...

That's right babe ! I am the scariest NEMESIS ever! :p

As a woman, I would like to give my opinion on this subject.

I am sorry to hear you had bad experiences having couples in games, however, I disagree that playing with your better half should be banned from games and here is my argument:

MATURITY!

Need I say more ?

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Cheers!

Spot on.

If a game host has to resort to banning the couples-milieu in game play, the problem doesn't lay in those couples - but rather with the lack of maturity that is being consistently demonstrated by the other players.

It's a normal reaction for an attached guy to get pissed off with others who are demonstrating disrespect to their partner, and to them, by making inappropriate advances - and it is immature behavior if people are not be able to keep it in their pants, when it comes to others that would normally be off-bounds in any other social situation. It shows a level of immaturity on the part of the perpetrators that needs correction - and banning either of the victims in that sort of situation isn't the appropriate action to be taking. It's a band-aid fix, not a solution to the root problem of player bad behavior.

I agree with you HackD, however, the Game Host organizes games and rules are his to create/implement.

If the organizer does not want to have couples on his games, we must comply!

:)

I'd recommended the KAC PDW too, very small and very sleek. Also comes with ability to share m4 mags and all the good stuff that comes with using m4 mags. IE easily stacked and most vest love m4 mags

You sir have a keeper. :D

Yes I would advise to get her a light gun like and extendable stock MP5 or a adjustable stock CQB short barrel weapon or G36 style as suggested would be a good choice. Not heavy to run around with for an extended period of time. For a vest something like an RRV with admin panel would provide good protection without being too heavy. If she doesn't care about weight but more about protection you could go with a CIRAS type vest. Make sure to get her a set of ballistic rated goggles (revision, ess, oakley) and a lower mesh mask.
As far as fields go there are a few girls that play semi regularly at Sgt. Splatters and UA.

Nice to see this thread. My gf is kind of interested in playing, just a little apprehensive about starting.

Not exactly. I'm not a game host, we are a team. Have been for a very, very long time. I agree that maturity plays a large role; but that's not the only dynamic here. We are a big family. We attend each others weddings, watch each others homes and pets when they are on holidays, we look out for everyones kids, our wives/girlfriends hang out constantly, have big barbecues, our extended family knows our airsoft buddies well, etc; you get the picture. We are involved in each others lives and see each other daily. Over the course of such a long time, drama happens. Strictly involved with airsoft; we've seen a nasty divorce, an affair, couples fighting about personal crap (every game day), fist fights and threats. All caused by both counterparts sharing a field. "bad experience" doesn't come close to covering it; and I'm giving the light version.

I don't want to give the wrong impression here. I would never tell another field, business, group, team, etc to ban couples. I know many couples that play team based sports together, and are very happy. And I'm an advocate for equal treatment for both sexes. I'm simply giving some advice. Having your better half present often adds a new dynamic for everyone. If you both remain "your own players", then you and everyone else will enjoy it more. I hope it works out, and strengthens your relationship. <"I mean this with absolutely no cynicism".

My friend had a smaller multicam plate carrier he bought for his wife; it was perfect for her frame. I'll see if I can find out where he got it. BDUs are a little more difficult from surplus or replica. Buy a new style, like 5.11 tactical as they make woman's sizes, or "smaller" sizes. she also really liked her SWAT boots. I know several female paramedics that swear by them, but they are heavy.

Guys have a tendency to be overprotective of their better half. One of the most talented players we had was female. She was actually better than her husband by a spell.

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My wife with a WE M4 with a 12'' ris punching paper. She's 5'2 and 90ish pounds

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With a 4.3 hicappa.

She's cool with punching paper but not with force on force stuff. I think it's only a matter of time though!

My girlfriend is enjoying her second year playing airsoft. She 5 feet tall and she uses a Classic Army Mp5 Navy with retractable stock. She's been telling me lately that she wants a pistol, but now we have to find one that fits in her hand.

As for gear she uses a load bearing molle vest from voodoo tactical, blackhawk fingerless gloves and merell boots.

How has sniperchick not been mentioned yet?

I just saw this post and I personally think that it's awesome that she wants to come out and play.

I definitely LOL'd about her concern for standing out amongst the guys. There's not much he can do about that as guys are definitely going to oggle a chick holding a gun :P

I think an mp5 might suit her well depending on her size and strength. She may want something bigger (but let's be honest, what woman doesn't always want something bigger).

I agree with the Mp5 being a heavy gun. Not only that it is front heavy. A CQBR length m4 with adjustable stock is a good choice.

Magpul gear with a post grip or AFG; that's if it's too heavy/front heavy.

Because she's so good at stalking that we never see her and that's why we forgot! :p

it's not necessarily how heavy the gun is.. it's where the weight is on the gun. The straighter your arms have to be to hold the harder it is to stabilize. If you can keep the gun closer to your body, the easier it will be to hold, shoulder and fire with less wavering because of the weight.

No one ever notices her until it's too late. She's probably dressed like a bush, in a bush, watching this thread.

"Girls of ASC" would make an awesome calendar.

Get her a DMR with scope, girls are naturally good shooters and that way she could kick back and pick people off and move up at her own comfort level.

Soon she will wanna run and gun with a p90.

Just a curve ball question here... Did you ask her what she liked? When mine started I told her to pick what gun she wanted on the rack... She went for the 249..... But at 27 pounds shes a heavy bitch, she tried just about every gun i owned and then declared the sig and m14 hers... Who an I to argue I always play with the rpk anyway.... Dont decide for her.. Let her do the deciding and you'll be doing the paying soon anough.... The most priceless look you'll ever get is when she figures out you registered her with your usual groupe of close friends but put yourself on the opposite team.... Man it's been two years and I still hear about it...

wife has been playing since 2002, she favors a sig commando and m4 shorty but also has a p90 and ak, for gear she likes the blackhawk strike rig or a a hsgi dach, and can throw down better then most.. once we get on the field she disapears.. sorry ricochet the no couple thing is crap, sounds like a lot of egos, people must remember we "play" airsoft we are not airsoft. this is just a game, but thats just my opinion, that and a buck you can get a cup of coffee.
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That's like saying just because she has a vagina she can make good sandwiches.

Despite the running joke, I've never met a girl who could make a better sandwich than me... even after watching me make one.

From experience girls are better first time shooters than guys for one very simple reason: They fucking listen to what they are told and put what was said into application where guys hit the matcho switch and don't listen. Every time i do an initiation to firearms I always chalenge the couple to shoot a little competition a the end to see who pays for diner and 8 times out of 10 the guys are buying...

Yeah, I don't get that. My girlfriend comes out all the time now. Hell, she builds props for our games and brings delicious baking out to the field, although she gets annoyed that I don't cook at home but when in field I make bacon in the middle of a gunfight.

Hell, the best moment I had in the last few months of airsoft, I was single-handedly storming a small bunker and I take fire from it. I duck, check target and hear a familiar giggle. I shout out, "IS THAT YOU?!" She laughs and puts a few bb's over my head. It's a good thing her AEG crapped out on her, but we had one fuck of a good gunfight.

So to me, it sounds like you've got some really unstable asstard couples.

Yeah, there've been couples out at Finches on fairly regular occasions, with no issues.

It doesn't matter if someone is part of a couple or single... unstable is unstable, and they'll find something to lose their shit over. Whether it's some other dude checking out his girlfriends ass, or a full auto burst, or a twig fell in front of him.

Don't have, had.

Imagine knowing someone for years and years. Good player, solid individual, nice family; then his wife starts playing and he changes. He can't handle when she gets hurt, he can't handle when she excels past him, etc.

Another couple played with us for years (both of them). Really nice people, played well together, good sports, then she nails someone else on the team. Now they and the other individual stop coming out because they might have to see each other, everyones is picking sides, and on, and on, and on.

I assure you, this decision wasn't made lightly; and I hope no one else has to make the same. These are people friends and have been for years. We know their kids, we know go on trips together, we are family.

These are just a few examples. Airsoft in itself is not necessarily the cause, but possibly a catalyst. Couples have a strong relationship or connection. You can't just stop worrying about finances, your kids, your marriage, or whatever just because your playing airsoft. Every couple has their ups and downs. Sometimes; it spills over and effects the team. These where or are all good people. They made their mistakes and that's sad, but we've found it's couples that are a large negative x-factor. That doesn't mean that'll always be the case, it's just easier not to take the chance anymore. This was also not some decision I just came up with; it was a consensus among many long standing team members after careful consideration and years of airsoft together.

Let me ask a question. Let's say you play regularly with a close group of friends. In between games someone says or does something to you that is upsetting. Maybe that person just made a mistake, or screwed up; it happens. So even though your angry you give them a talking to or explain your frustration; but it doesn't become a big deal. Maybe they tea-bagged you, maybe they shot you in the ass, maybe they called you an inappropriate name (something racial, or derogatory), or maybe they carelessly shot you in the face leaving marks or drawing a little blood. This person is your friend and didn't mean anything by it, but shit happens. Now instead, same situation; but they did it to your wife right in front of you. What if she's in tears, upset, or uncomfortable now. Maybe not; maybe she's handling it well. But the husband/boyfriend is always more upset than if it happened to him, and often steps in to fight her battle; it's a natural state of things. Maybe he doesn't, but it stews in his head, and he's always now annoyed by that person. Or he does make a big deal about it and now the rest of the team lament her prescence because they have to watch themselves all the time or he might be upset.

I can remember a time when buddies girl got shot in the face (hit her in the safety glasses, didn't hurt, nor leave a mark). The individual apologized to her, and she accepted; no harm done. Later her "man" decided to make a big deal about it. I can tell you after years if playing with him that if he'd have been shot in the face and it knocked one of his teeth out; he'd have said, "oh well, risks of the sport. Shit happens, don't worry about it.".

This isn't all couples; and these are stable people with good families. Some obviously were not "reliable". But it was just a constant, and now we don't have those issues ...in years ...go figure.

Currently we have two girls that are full time players on our team and we have another two that are occasional players. The girls on our team keep up with the guys 100% of the time and we treat them just like the rest of the guys. All the girls that play with our group came into the game by their own accord, and we do our best as a group to welcome them into the sport just as we would anyone else.

That being said, BrendanL if you and your girlfriend are interested in playing with a very female friendly group then feel free to PM me. Your girlfriend may feel more comfortable starting out if there are other girls there, that are just as into it as the guys.

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I just want to thank everyone who posted some answers, this thread has been great help to her and soon she'll be gearing up and playing in no time!

lots of women at finches last time i was there, one with m14 dmr, another with mp5 and some tall one that left early....
want to get my wife into it but she's the biggest 110lb wimp ever, she'd probably put a handle on back of my vest and use me as a human shield...

g36 mags are retarded so probably not a gun i would recommend
KAC PDW ALL THE WAY! sexy little buggers...my wife accidentally threw out one of my rifles recently....crappy javem24 i bought for 100 bucks, now i can have another rifle of my choice! SCORE! KAC PDW! Come to Papa!

Actually... to forget and not worry about school, finances, etc. is exactly why I go play Airsoft. So I don't have to think about it for a day.

As for the other stuff... if they can't watch someone take a shot to the face without losing it, they probably shouldn't be on the field to begin with. Everything you just mentioned was indicative of some instability man.

Let's take that same couple to a baseball game... the wife/girlfriend get's thrown out at first base, it's a close call, I posit the guy who freaks out when his girlfriend gets a shot to the nose is probably going to start shouting at the umpire who made a close call that the boyfriend doesn't agree with. I wouldn't want that person at a game I'm at, full stop. Whether is girlfriend exists or is there shouldn't matter. That level of maturity is below what I feel is required to attend an Airsoft game.

Basically, you've demonstrated the type of mentality that should not be permitted to come and play, and it has nothing to do with having a significant other. I've seen boyfriends/girlfriends/fathers/mothers come out and watch their partners or kids get shot, even bleed, and you know what, no one's freaked out. Usually people apologise for taking a shot they shouldn't have, and everyone continues on having a happy day.

You've just got some bad eggs. It has nothing to do with partners. Invite those people back out, and watch the same people freak out over something else. 10 bucks says it'll happen.

I'm not arguing the point, I'm telling you my observations. These things did happened, they happened several times, involving several different people; but now they won't happen again. This was over a decade, not a year or two. We've had bad eggs for sure, and it won't be the last time. We don't long tolerate unstable individuals. Maybe we've had bad luck in that regard, who knows. I can tell you that not every one of them was a "bad egg"; Sometimes shit happens. I guess I should state that this isn't a strictly "for fun" group. We don't pay to play; we have a private team on a private field. We have a strict 18 and up age restriction, strict gear restrictions, strict rules, etc. Don't get me wrong; we have a blast, but there is no "giggling" on the field. Perhaps our atmosphere isn't conducive to couples; and that's why it hasn't worked out.

Anyways, I understand why people can't grasp the concept; but really, you'd have to have been here and seen it to believe some of it. I'll say it again though; we've all been doing this for a long time, and we were all happy with the decision.

I can tell you we aren't the only group/team that has had these or similar issues; or taken action. I know of groups that stopped recruiting anymore players whatsoever due to problems. I know teams that will only recruit within a certain age range "essentially".

I'm with Ricochet on this one. This is a proactive stance instead of a reactive one and taking a proactive step to prevent these kinds of incidents is the right thing to do.

I would love to take my girlfriend out to play with me but probably not with those guys. Not because they'd hit on her or anything but IMO the game dynamics aren't conductive to couples. Even though I'm not generally a totally overly protective helicopter boyfriend (really, she can handle things on her own) it doesn't mean that I won't be overly protective if she gets hurt or close to getting hurt.

With MTB, I wouldn't want to see her get hurt but there's really only yourself or equipment failure to blame if you lowside or drop or whatever (and it's usually either yourself overstretching your limits or you not maintaining your equipment leading to failure). With airsoft it's a different dynamic, there's the factor of the other person, yourself, and equipment failure. The last two are alright but add the other person factor into it and you have something that can blow up in your face quite easily because it's easy to blame someone else rather than your own self or equipment failure.

On the other hand however, I would join her to short day skirmishes at some of the other "for fun" clubs/groups.

Also @ Ricochet: I don't know if you heard, but I went out to play last week and I'm now "medium nip" in the Swat-21 group :p

It's good to see you back. I'm sure ACT-21 would let your girlfriend come out if you liked. Especially if your "joining" their group. Then when they visit us, you and your GF can come play and are not "breaking" our rules, lol. You are however more than welcome to join us of course. As for the nick name, that's what happens when you play with rednecks; what can I say. That whole extremely rough around the edges thing, maybe that's why couples don't work out on our field, lol. The last girl we had who played on a regular basis use to say things that would make a sailor blush.

This is an extremely bizarre rule. Couples are an extremely common vector through which women appear on our fields, if not the dominant one. You're throwing out the baby with the bath water.

What some people here don't seem to understand is that is not a field or game rule, it's a team rule. They can play with their spouse, just not be both part of the team. From what I understand.

This is airsoft and people shoot at the opposite team for elimination. When I shoot, I target for the largest area which is the body and best chance of a hit at long distances. I try to avoid the head, because no one likes to be shot in the head. Also if I target for the body, I now have to avoid the breast area that's provided I know it is a girl I am shooting at. Do I go for the butt?

If she is worry about her breasts, then have her wear a plate carrier. She also be better be wearing full face protection.

I don't distinguish between male or female when I pull the trigger. If the player is female and wants to be treated as a female then the female player should wear some clothing to identify that she is female or use a pink gun.

I have seen girls shoot guys multiple times. Do girls treat guys any different in an airsoft game?

The big question here.... Does your girl friend want to be treated as a girl or one of the guys playing a airsoft game?

Essentially that's exactly right. We will share the field with couples who belong to other groups/teams. When a visiting team comes to play we don't ban them from playing. It's strictly an internal thing that works best for us.

This topic needs more estrogen input, must be machimo reaction like "ugah ugah woman do this" etc.. :)

you know I can understand being protective about your partner, you're worried about their safety, that's great, but these guys who get OVERprotective or decide they need to pull out their dick because they think their partner has been wronged in some way as part of the game are the problem, and I would say isolated incidents because not every couple will behave this way.

Getting shot is part of the game, just like you don't sign up for a kickboxing class/group expecting not to be punched. If there is malicious intent behind the action, then yes, by all means take appropriate action against the offender or the person being a douche. I just don't get why these guys have to be dumbasses about it. If you didn't explain the risks to your partner or if they didn't understand, who's at fault when the point of it is to shoot people and get shot? Headshots can and will happen, even when people do their best to avoid it, but if that's all the target you give, that's all the target that gets shot at. Hell I got shot in my last 2 games in the face more than I've been shot in the entirety of the last year.

But since it's your team you're talking about and it was a team decision, then that's your prerogative, and I got no issue with that. The team lives and dies by the strength and weaknesses of the individual members, and you're looking out for the well being of the whole.

Lol, there in a nutshell the downside of trying to be to legit, egos get involved and what is a hobby turns out to be drama. Take a step back and look in the mirrior were old people playing with bb guns. The minute you start beliving your own bullshit... your lost.

There are a few "other" more personal reasons as well, but may not be appropriate for this thread. The important thing is that men and woman both are welcome within our team. And we don't judge others who play together as a couple. I personally play golf with my wife (worst decision ever), but she likes it and her happiness is important. I can see why couples would enjoy playing airsoft together.

Just a question.

What happens when a male and female teamates fall in love?

All's fair in both.

Well, that's a tough one. At the moment we are short a female; as our last one moved away. So the short answer is, things get really awkward.

When a man and a woman love each other very much, the man loads his magazine into the womans magwell and works the bolt, sometimes again and again, and loads a round into the chamber. 9 months later POP! You've got a new junior teammate and kit carrier.

epic!

My wife shoots better than I do, is quieter in the woods, has higher tolerances for pain,and has WAY more patience in the field.

And she is a hell of an airsoft player too.

I was talking to my wife about this thread and one of the things she mentioned helped was having a gun that kept up with everyone else. She uses a CA G36C and a PX4. For gear she wears a condor vest (something like this - http://www.condoroutdoor.com/etv_eli...ical_vest.aspx). She's not near into airsoft and guns as much as I am, so when she finds one she actually gets excited for I'm inclined to get it...in this case a PX4

I keep hoping this thread turns into a hot girls with guns picture thread, and everytime I click I am disappoint. :(

That's because you're big ol' sissy! :p

Hope this helps;)

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as for the first post - no tips. give girl goggles. give girl loaded mag. give girl gun. push girl into firing line - point and laugh. - get shot by girl - love blooms. - worry about gear and kits an all that shyte after girl decides airsoft is superfucking awesome. if she's really into it, she'll buy her own crap, thus saving you money to spend on your own crap - or she'll make friends in the community and bat her lashes at people for free hand-offs and build her kit up slow - ... anyway.. no tips. just shove her out on a field.. if she likes it, you'll know - if she doesn't, you'll likely get shot in the wiener.. but at least you'd know either way..

I have a game coming up saturday with F.N.G's in northbay and my girlfriends coming it will be her firt game everand she requested a pow pow gun (m249).
Hopefully she will enjoy it. also i had another friend thats a girl join in on one of my teams weekend games she got board her reply was i would have more fun if i didn't just finish my basic last week....

Depending on how much you like the kid you might have a riot shield too.

A great facility for males and females to play in would be Ultimate Airsoft in Toronto. I know there are females that come out to play over there, so if you have a wife or girlfriend who wants to enjoy airsoft, take her to Ultimate Airsoft :)

id play with my girlfriend if she was into airsoft, especially if i was on the other team lol
i like girls who play competitively against me in sports, its kinda a turn on