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Nathan_9_9 September 10th, 2012 20:08

Canadian Customs
 
Hi I just ordered a package form ehobbyasia and I just read their shipping rules and found out that silencers were not allowed by customs. Included in the package was a p90 silencer my question is will custom seize the whole package or just the silencer? And have anyone ordered a silencer form ehobbyasia and they took it out of the package?

MultipleParadox September 10th, 2012 22:21

I think they'll ship the allowed stuff
You're best bet is to wait and see

Nikodemus September 10th, 2012 22:51

I have ordered a dozen silencers over the years and have never had a problem with customs.

Totentanzv1 September 11th, 2012 00:17

Ive read the FAQs and I am currently awaiting age verification. Would customs allow through a King Arms Colt M4 CQB from ehobbyasia? Im pretty sure it would be best to be patient and await verification of course and I could have sworn the FAQ said no. Just curious. Apologies in advance if Im just being dense.

Deadpool September 11th, 2012 00:19

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Originally Posted by Totentanzv1 (Post 1701765)
Ive read the FAQs and I am currently awaiting age verification. Would customs allow through a King Arms Colt M4 CQB from ehobbyasia? Im pretty sure it would be best to be patient and await verification of course and I could have sworn the FAQ said no. Just curious. Apologies in advance if Im just being dense.

Why not get it from one of the many low priced retailers that have it in country already?

RaisinBran September 11th, 2012 00:37

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Originally Posted by Deadpool (Post 1701767)
Why not get it from one of the many low priced retailers that have it in country already?

Maybe it's EHOBBY ASIA SPECIAL BRANDED EXTREME MEGA GUN.

and he really really really wants a branded gun by EA.

Totentanzv1 September 11th, 2012 00:39

ehobbyasia has it at $175 USD currently. Seemed like a good deal. Im seeing it at around 300 elsewhere. Again, Im asking out of curiosity, not because Im going to run out and drop money. :)

L473ncy September 11th, 2012 00:46

Add in shipping, brokerage, and duties and it's not such a great deal it can easily go up to $250-260 for it FOB destination. Also there's the whole thing with wait times.

For any other rare/hard to find gun it would be a deal to go outside the country but for that gun not really TBH.

Totentanzv1 September 11th, 2012 00:48

yep, I am sure thats true. I was really just curious about whether ehobbyasia could ship a gun here, since it seemed at odds with what I read in the FAQ. Im guessing "Yes, but whats the point" is the answer to that.

THe_Silencer September 11th, 2012 01:49

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Originally Posted by Totentanzv1 (Post 1701778)
yep, I am sure thats true. I was really just curious about whether ehobbyasia could ship a gun here, since it seemed at odds with what I read in the FAQ. Im guessing "Yes, but whats the point" is the answer to that.

GO ahead and order one and let us know about your experience with CBSA. And to the OP, I've too have ordered many silencers from different sites and never had one seized, even the the packages that openly declare "silencer" on the declaration form.

Frost_505 September 11th, 2012 04:08

Due to the new 2012 changes to the CBSA, you can import full metal airsoft guns now as long as they shoot 366 fps or above to be classified as a uncontrolled firearm. Good thing is; now US based distributors who ship to Canada will offer Canadian exclusive upgraded AEGs to meet the Canadian standards. Down side, expect to be paying a bit more than you think, because fees and tax conversions.

Nathan_9_9 September 11th, 2012 06:50

Thanks for the helpful response. hopefully I get my package. Ya with guns I would buy local. we got some amazing Canadian retailers. Velocity arms will actually let you fire the gun yourself to make sure it works.

chaz September 11th, 2012 09:21

Importing laws changed?
 
Looks like the laws have changed for importing non-restricted firearms in Canada?
http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/...2-013-eng.html

Am I reading it right; you only need to have Possession and Acquisition Licence or Possession Only Licence to bring airsoft guns across the border?

venture September 11th, 2012 09:30

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Originally Posted by chaz (Post 1701840)
Looks like the laws have changed for importing non-restricted firearms in Canada?
http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/...2-013-eng.html

Am I reading it right; you only need to have Possession and Acquisition Licence or Possession Only Licence to bring airsoft guns across the border?

This is not for airsoft. This is for Non-Restricted Firearms. Airsoft guns are Uncontrolled (Unregulated) firearms. Completely different thing.

chaz September 11th, 2012 10:48

I don't know. Reading through this http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicati...9-13-2-eng.pdf it seems very grey and almost at the discretion of the particular border agent.
At any rate, I digress.

horto September 11th, 2012 11:13

Ahh, nothing like Canadian Customs and import discussions in the noob tank. So refreshing.

what venture said

also, let me give you a hint... there's a memorandum newer than that 2009 document that makes things less grey.

chaz September 11th, 2012 11:36

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Originally Posted by horto (Post 1701877)
Ahh, nothing like Canadian Customs and import discussions in the noob tank. So refreshing.

Nice sarcasm.

FirestormX September 11th, 2012 11:51

On the topic of importing upgraded guns, there was a thread in the AoM discussion forum (link here if you're AVed: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=145051) where this was said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by COL.TIKER (Post 1700158)
I'm not sure if that [importing upgraded guns] actually works. I was told via phone by a CBSA agent that they only go by the FPS they find in physical or online manuals for the gun, not whatever the retailer claims the FPS to be. I asked if they can chrono the gun to verify that it is over 366FPS instead of whatever the manual says, and his reply was "sure, if you want it to wait in a line up for the next 2 years"


Drake September 11th, 2012 13:12

Yes. Exactly that.

You CAN import an upgraded gun, and it WILL get through; but there's a good chance it will get seized and will have to get sent for ballistic testing and it may be many many months before it ever gets back to you. 18 months is not an unrealistic delay.

There's a reason why there are still Canadian retailers.

Ayashifx55 September 11th, 2012 13:25

It states clearly on ehobby asia website that they will not ship silencers to canadians. If you ordered a silencer, they will not process that item's order and will refund you accordingly.

Curo September 11th, 2012 13:29

I don't always buy airsoft guns, but when I do I order from Canada.

The Chad September 11th, 2012 13:34

I have ordered out of country once and it was bullshit. I payed $80 for the part, $107 something after taxes and shipping, then $21 something for duties. Never again. I would rather pester local retailers to source the parts I need than to do that again. Buy local means better local IMO.

Matula September 11th, 2012 16:25

That's why you should check if they are shipping with UPS or thief company...
And when you paying 80 $ it should be duties on 80 $ not 107....

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Originally Posted by The Chad (Post 1701944)
I have ordered out of country once and it was bullshit. I payed $80 for the part, $107 something after taxes and shipping, then $21 something for duties. Never again. I would rather pester local retailers to source the parts I need than to do that again. Buy local means better local IMO.


Nathan_9_9 September 11th, 2012 18:01

ya, the site said they don''t import silencers to Canada but the e mail they sent me said "Generally, we would not take some of the items out of the package unless customer’s request You can leave some of your statement of request when you place an order next time and we will try our best to satisfy and match your needs"
So yeah, so can anyone confirm is it illigal to import silencers for airsoft guns.

JerryMcGoulBerry September 11th, 2012 18:32

I ordered a silencer off eBay once. Later I found out that they won't pass. Just like you. So I bought one at bent barrel. A couple weeks later, I got it in the mail. I was really surprised. So it is possible to get passed. I can't really tell you how likely, but it can happen. Now I have 2 silencers. Since I bought it for so cheap I can sell it for a lot more.

RaisinBran September 11th, 2012 18:52

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Originally Posted by JerryMcGoulBerry (Post 1702062)
I ordered a silencer off eBay once. Later I found out that they won't pass. Just like you. So I bought one at bent barrel. A couple weeks later, I got it in the mail. I was really surprised. So it is possible to get passed. I can't really tell you how likely, but it can happen. Now I have 2 silencers. Since I bought it for so cheap I can sell it for a lot more.

Now we know not to buy anything from you.

THe_Silencer September 12th, 2012 03:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayashifx55 (Post 1701940)
It states clearly on ehobby asia website that they will not ship silencers to canadians. If you ordered a silencer, they will not process that item's order and will refund you accordingly.

Really? Have they actually refused to sell you the silencer? I never had issue buying silencers from them.

Antikythera September 12th, 2012 07:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by THe_Silencer (Post 1702268)
Really? Have they actually refused to sell you the silencer? I never had issue buying silencers from them.

Could it be because you are THE Silencer.

Reignman September 12th, 2012 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by L473ncy (Post 1701777)
Add in shipping, brokerage, and duties and it's not such a great deal it can easily go up to $250-260 for it FOB destination. Also there's the whole thing with wait times.

For any other rare/hard to find gun it would be a deal to go outside the country but for that gun not really TBH.

The way I see it is that he's saving approx 40-50$ by your calculation. I'd rather have that 50$ in my pocket too.

volteco September 12th, 2012 09:41

Greetings everyone!

This is my first post on this forum and I wanted to introduce myself and share my experience purchasing over the border.

Before I go any further, I want to make some clarifications. I am not 14 year old, I am much older. I wasn’t a member of the forum when I made a purchase, I knew however about the issues with importation of airguns into Canada and decided to try my chances. I have my other three rifles purchased from a Canadian distributor. I was AV'd more than a month ago, but my info isn't populated into the forum yet. I guess it takes longer than two weeks sometimes. Oh, well...

So, after some research, I made a purchase on eHobbyAsia - I bought Classic Army CA-25 Entry Carbine. They shipped it pretty quick and in about a week and a half it reached Canada Border Agency where it got stuck. After two weeks I got notification from CBSA that the item was detained, together with a letter from CBSA, saying that it is prohibited item (replica firearm) and indicating my choices: appeal, abandon or export. I decided to try my luck again and apply for appeal, as the export process looked very unclear.

On eHobbyAsia website it says that the muzzle velocity of the rifle is 390fps. According to Custom Notice 12-005, airfost guns with muzzle velocity over 366fps are considered uncontrolled firearms and not replicas and allowed for importation, so I based my appeal letter on that and attached a copy of Custom Notice 12-005 as well as website screenshot showing description of the rifle.

Later I checked manufacturer’s website and found out that fps limit is way below 366fps! I thought I was screwed.

After a week I received letter that my appeal was received and will be reviewed, and after one more week I received another letter, together with delivery attempt notice, saying that the rifle was considered eligible for importation! In the letter they mentioned that they referred to the manual, that came with the rifle and because highest FPS limit was above 366fps, they decided to release it. So, they do refer to manual that come with a gun and not retailer or manufacturer's information on the web, and I guess eHobbyAsia upgraded the rifle and changed the numbers in the manual as well.

Next day I went to a post office and received the rifle. I had to pay taxes and duties though - $75 total. Plus shipping was around $60. Plus it is a lottery, you never know 100% your gun will be released. So, I completely agree that mostly it makes sense to purchase locally rather than over the border, unless it is something you really want/need and can't find here in Canada.

Hope this can be of some interest for some people here on the forum.

Ayashifx55 September 12th, 2012 09:51

Always pay extra to seller to ship by USPS or HK post or EMT. This has ntg to do with "buying outside country". Its just most of you here doesnt know how to avoid taxes and complain.

volteco September 12th, 2012 11:59

I am not complaining :) It WAS shipped through HK post, but when you buy from a company they usually have to declare the the full amount that was paid and won't go for declaring it as a $5 purchase. Depends on a company of course...

Nathan_9_9 September 12th, 2012 22:27

good news, my package was released by custom and is in the Mississauga distro being processed. Ill let you guys know what happens should be arriving in the next 2-3 days if CP dose not screw up.

Nathan_9_9 September 13th, 2012 21:15

package received n nothing missing n box is unopened.


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