Zeta Labs AS VAL and VSS VINTOREZ up for pre-order at WGCShop (AEG)
 

No pictures up yet. Description says Full Steel.
VSS comes with a PSO-1 scope.

Interesting :)

There are pics up on rsov I believe, I've seen them before, just can't remember if it was rsov or not. Not a bad looking gun either

Thats the place BBdragon, I knew it was one of your crazy Taiwan sites

http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/product_i...oducts_id/2809
http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/images/pr...ges/2809_0.jpg

http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/product_i...oducts_id/2830
http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/images/pr...ges/2830_0.jpg

Uhhhh...... Which one to get? Both are soo awesome. Want specs on both.

No point of pre-order until they confirm the release date..
I'm pretty sure I've seen it on pre-order at UNCompany and then they disappeared..

I would love that Val

The Battlefield 3 fan in me says WAAANNNNTTTT!!!!! :D

Those pictures up above are not of the Zeta labs guns, those are real steel. Zeta has not yet released a full picture

This is the closest they've come to a full picture. Last report was a Late March release but looks like they missed it (Again) I've had a preorder paid up since November for this thing.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1280/valbarrel2.jpg

I want to see them design a new tiny gearbox for this gun....

That's the opposite of what you want!!

You want them to design a full sized standardized gearbox!!

No gearbox. You want it to be gas.

I mean full sized gearbox wouldnt fit this small gun..

version 3? it is very similar in size to a ak reciever.

Its not similar in size at all..

Look at what people had to do to "vintorez" to fit V3 gearbox: http://i53.tinypic.com/2cegm5h.jpg
So, new gearbox unless you want something along the lines of "JG SVD"..

looking at it, it does sound possible to use a Ver. 3 gearbox, only problem is where the battery goes since you can't use the top cover.

Battery could fit in the silencer or hand guards...

Favorite Russian weapon pretty much ever, finally made into an AEG. Me want :D

I'm pretty sure Vintorez is about an inch short in height.....

The top/dust cover is tall than on the AK though. Overall assembled receiver height looks roughly similar, so a V3 would probably fit the same way a V2 is seated in an AR receiver.

ZETA
 

Correct me please if I'm wrong, but arn't Zeta Labs Guns crap? I have never heard anyone say anything nice about any gun made by ZETA Labs.

Behold!!!

http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/in...ducts_id=14300

Sadly, still shooting too low to make it across the boarder without a license or some custom work before shipping. = poopies

I dont understand...

Its still in "Pre-order" and "**Will be available at late April ,2012**"

My guess is there was a delay. If videogame companies and film companies can do it, why not airsoft companies?

Oh, sorry, I didnt understand what was the point of your post, but now I get it, its posted with a price.

I'm pretty sure like a year ago Uncompany had this also on "pre order"..

VSS Vintorez

http://npoaeg.ru/graph/80.jpg

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Cp-3M (Airsoft version)

http://npoaeg.ru/graph/82.jpg

Mind blown. I found these awhile ago, but finally managed to forget about them... DAMN YOU!

The FPS makes me wonder though. It say the VSS Vintorez, and the AS Val will be shooting about 320FPS, while the Vihkr will be 3805ish?! Something is fishy.

I love the AS VAL though! Definitely going to get one, depending on how the Vihkr is in function when it comes out. According to the website the Vihkr's removable silencer actually has a proper inner barrel inside it. I've never seen anything like that, but then again I don't like putting silencers on weapons normally. I like the idea of having a AKS-74U length CQB weapon, and being able to lengthen the barrel for more accurate work. (As long as adding the silencer will actually help like having a full inner barrel would work.)

I'm also wondering who is going to make the (Replica) optics for these. They don't have conventional side mounts. I'd love a Kobra or maybe a PK-A.

I've also been told LCT do not manufacture gearboxes they get them from CYMA... Why would they get/list LCT gearboxes instead of CYMA? Anyone have information about this?


EDIT: Finally... Found this in the forums listed by a site admin about the AS VAL. "The product is represented in the photo series and is already available at our dealers." Ended up looking through dealers and finding out that the damn things are available!! Lets get these in Canada, someone needs to import these properly!!


Also on their website they mention that the companies that have their (Zeta Labs) products listed for low prices are wrong. (Looks like this thing is $850ish)

Ahh, made in Russia, I like..

First thing, even the manufacturer agreed, because they are using v3 gearbox and not custom, dimensions ARE NOT identical to the real steel.

Gearboxes are probably shit, thats why they have "body" kits for sale without gearboxes.. Sadly can't easily import into Canada.

I got in contact with the Russian guys and they said gun is shipped disassembled.. argh!?!.. Gotta investigate further..

Try to contact the guys from the online store .... can help. http://www.ruaeg.ru

I can clarify for delivery to Canada

Yep, I'm talking to them right now. :)

Putting order for VAL and some mags..
http://www.ruaeg.ru/catalog/28.html

Later on will probably get Vintorez too :D

Got to start looking for PSO1..

Let me know how the whole process goes! Very interested!!!

So.. there is a slight problem..
Russian customs do not allow guns to be exported assembled.. and Canadian won't allow dissasembled... so.. fail.

I'm thinking to ship it from Russia to US, assemble it there and then bring it in..

and US customs? I guess you can always ask company to put something resembling orange tip on it. Any other limitations on US side?

I always wanted VSS for myself, so it's very interesting.

I'm also interested in 10 and 20 mags need one each can't really check out from there online store.

Well.. they cost $28 each + shipping + tax..
You still want to them? :) lol

Well, gun itself is like $840 (Пздец!). I can only imagine how much it will cost with everything at the end. Pricey..
So $28 mag isn't that bad :)

Yea... but I'm getting the "tuned" version.. plus mags plus shipping... total is going to be around $1500.. ouch..

Thats ptw right there. yep. ouch.

But is it as sexy?

http://www.ruaeg.ru/graph/42.jpg
http://www.ruaeg.ru/graph/34.jpg

No. Nowhere near this russian sexyness :)

Check your pm.

If you want to compare with "real steel" AS VAL - check this link. Also, check those prices.

Btw. I`m player but not representative of the store. Try to contact with the shop (adguns.spb@gmail.com , zakazaeg@gmail.com), may be they will find way out of the "customs" problem.

Spasibo Ykudza, proverim chto ADguns mogut zdelat'.

Ya, those are "cheaper", but use SRC gearbox vs tuned LCT.. and no extra things like mags, battery, sling..

Why Canadian Customs no likey disassembled toys? Cant play with them on their breaks? :)

Vir, let me know when you get one, I'll have to stop by and manhandle :D

Considering i just trew out 570$ for Altyn helmet, at this point i dont even know if i'm going to get it or get my money back. 28$ each is nothing.

1465 USD is the final price for gun, 10 mags, battery, sling and shipping to US.. plus shipping to Canada from US and taxes...

Sigh, I will have to admire yours I guess. Well over my budget right now :(