My parents and airsoft
 

I have done my best to explain the sport to them I have printed of material on it and the laws surrounding the sport but yet my parents have the same aregument "What if the cops think it is a real gun?" "Do you know how many people have been shot because cops thought they were real guns". I have said that I will keep it in its case secured and locked out of plain sight. I would never ever bring it into open public. The only time I would use it would be on the field or in my basement to maybe fix or upgrade it but to never fire it. My dad then said he is agianst ever having a gun on our property. I also then said Its not a real gun it is considered a toy but shouldn't be treated like one. He knows im responsible but they won't get the picture any help I can get from you to get them to understand?

Chrome,

I've got a few questions and advice for ya,

You profile says you are 15, before even looking at Airsoft kit, have you checked local rules about playing age etc, at local fields?

If your parents don't wish to have a firearm, or anything that looks like a firearm in the house, well its their house and their rules. You might want to go to a game or two, and rent equipment (if local rules/laws allow) and show your parents the sport, the players and the kit. After exporsure (ensure your playing with a group of non-retards), show them your legal data, and see what they say.

- Goldman

I'd say respect their wishes, particularly until you're 18 and are of the legal age to make these decisions on your own. It's better to be honest, and respect their wishes than to do it behind their back, besides, it'll say a lot about your maturity for the rest of the community.

Edit: Dammit, beat again... slow typing today...

Well.... seeing as you're only 15... I'd wait another year before I start playing.

On your problematic note... why don't you just give the airsoft to them? That way they won't worry about you shooting inappropriate things with it. If you have to go to a game that you signed up for, they can give it to you to play with (and they have to be there to supervise you obviously).

If your parents don't like having a replica firearm on their property... you're not alone. My best friend lost access to his internet for wanting one (he's 18 too). My only suggestion is to do what he's planning: Wait until you move out, then buy one.

Ya, you guys make a good point. But I really dislike waiting. I just think my parents dont understand the sport and they have some idea of people shooting each other point blank with no protective gear.

No... your Parents DO understand.

But lucky for you... they care to see you alive tomorrow. Give it time, nothing worth doing in life happens fast.

Except sex.

Sorry, couldn't resist :grin:

Your parents are, I know it's hard to believe when you are a teen, most likely competent guardians, and they are only acting in your best interest. If you did keep tabs on the sport, study up, browse around for the next few years, by the time you are 18 you'll be in an extremely good position to start playing. You'll be lightyears ahead of most new players, and most likely youll have some money saved up so you can get everything you need to play - got the $800-$1200 it'll take to get started?

All good things in time

I have money saved up about $700 and i get a $500 paycheck in 2 weeks I geuss I could keep renting how much does renting cost?

I fought the urge to say that... It was difficult, but I did...

Reply to chrome
 

My suggestion to you is to tell your folks that if you were to aquire an airsoft rifle the first thing you would do is make the local police aware that you have one. alert them about the fact first so their not surprised when they see it. Store it like a real weapon to insure a safe sense of legal posession.

If you want to prove to your parents your maturity, then do what they want to. I am currently doing the samething. I knew about this sport a while back, I believe when I was around 7(way too young). So I waited, its only been last year that I have signed up to this forum because my father encouraged me to learn all the basics so I would be ahead of the game when I turn 18. The funny part he got interested in airsoft and he bought a couple of guns, so we(its not only me now its we) are really to rock and roll when I turn 18 so we can show up to games together.

Just incase you skimmed it, the point was to wait.

Ernest

Ya I could wait but maybe telling the local RCMP is a good idea if I get one. It all depends

Thanks, Im not gonna lie to my parents about it there is no reason to, I was already planning on getting out and checking stuff out and getting them to understand. I just think they dont understand what really happens and they have some rash Idea. I havent argued with them and I respect there rules it just urcks me when they turn a blind eye to stuff like this. There are responsible and I usally take there word for it but the way they argue it its just retarded. " what if the cops see you with this" My answer

1) Dont take it out in public
2)always have it in case and locked and secure
3)Tell the RCMP about it so they know
4) always and always play on fields designated and with other people who understand the sport and know the safety involved

Why are you going to tell the RCMP about it? If you decide to lie to your parents and manage to buy a gun illegaly, showing it to the RCMP is the last thing you should do. Even if you were legal age its still the last thing you should do.

What is so hard about waiting Chrome? I waited till I was 18. I just deleted every bookmark to airsoft sites, anything to do with airsoft and lived out a normal teenage life. Just forget airsoft exsists. If need be I'm sure someone here *cough* could help you forget by limiting what you can see on asc.

No I had or have no intention of hiding it from them. Just if I did purchase one and my parents allow it I would probly tell the RCMP I have one so they dont jump to conclusions

Why would they jump to conclusions? Why would they know about it?. When you are 18 and buy an airsoft gun, it arrives to you in a styrofoam box wraped in shipping paper so no one knows what it is. You immediately buy a case from your local hunting or sports store and lock it. Then you take that case it hide it under your bed or someplace out of sight. You dont take it out in your living room with your friends to do some bunny hop videos. Keep it locked up so none of your neighbors whisper about you being some sort of criminal when you walk by and having false complaints called in about shots fired or illegaly stored firearms which will only make your life a living hell.

In short, never take it out and no one is the wiser. Where the heck did this tell the RCMP stuff get into your brain from?

someone posted it above

Yea... no. Selling an airgun to someone under 18 is against the law so your not getting an AEG till your 18. When you do get one there is no need to tell your local police since they will never see it. Keep it locked away like a real firearm would. Hell get a trigger lock if you want to along with locks on the case.

Its safe to say your parents are not going to be buying you an AEG, so you dont have to worry about any of this for a few years at the very least.

Its not agianst the law to sell one to someone under 18 its just not recommended and im not gonna buy one without my parents permission anyways

Really? You should ask yourself why the classifieds use a verified 18+ user list now then.

You know how at crappy tire you have to be 18+ to buy a BB Gun? Same thing applies to individual citizens.

Your parents said no, get over it, either wait a few years to play AS, or try something else.

:nod: hey now guys give him a break :!: He is excited about airsoft just how i was. I legaly purchased a gun and am now airsofting SAFELY. I understand why his parents are iffy. I would never shun myself from airsoft so i could forget about it.... :nod:

If it happens fast you're doing something wrong.

Way to make fun of yourself MinuteMan. 8)

Its not a law passed over by the canadian Government. Its an inside law with the airsoft community. I have no problem with it its a smart idea I think. and I really dont want to make this post make me sound immature and like an ass so Im just gonna stop posting under this topic but for those of you who did offer your advice thanks alot

It is a law, you think Crappy Tire gives a damn about Airsoft Canada? It is a LAW that is on the BOOKs. I HIGHLY suggest you read up on airsoft and its laws, as well as normal pellet gun laws.

Come back in 3 years.

No you can buy an airsoft gun when your under 18 I read somewhere on these forums where it had said that

When I was about 12 my dad gave me a slingshot, not a crappy one, a really good one, I still have it. Ok maybe it is just a sling shot but you can kill people with it. Then a couple years later when I turn 17 or 18, I don't remember, he gave me his .177 pellet pistol. The point here is when your parents know you are mature they will give you what you want. My dad gave me those things because he knew that I would use them properly. Don't think that your parents don't understand a thing about airsoft they think it is best for you to get more maturity (even though you might be mature enough). Maybe you'll get a surprise one of these days.

But if you want them to really know what is airsoft, you can try to bring them to a couple of games. So that way they will see what it is. But then again it their call. But I know that you understand fully their points and the points of all those who replied to your enquiry.

Good luck and keep up the good work.

Really, thats why our classifieds and retailesr are all 18_ with one exception? Your logic is lacking.

Kid, I waited from when I was around 8 to now, and I turned 23 this year. My parents refused to let me get airsoft guns so many times that I've lost count. And you know what? They were right. Now I'm responsible for myself and I can actually afford to buy the guns with my own money. I thought I was pretty responsible when I was in my teens, but looking back now, I realize I often only thought I was. So, to repeat what people here already said one more time, forget about airsoft for the time being. Take up paintball or making money, both will help you when you're actually ready for the sport.

I've never had sex for more than two hours.

I'd consider two hours of my life a very short amount of time = fast.

Thanks man I geuss ur right hard to wait 10 years I'll try my best

You don't have to wait till 18... Normally 16+ is okay as long as you're mature.

It isn't illegal for minors to have airsoft guns anywhere but in Ontario. It is, however, not recommended.

There's no need for you to wait 10 years - 3 will do. Where in Alberta do you live anyway?

Nic

well let me get in this action. i am 16 and my parents now i am not gun dumb i have gone to fireing ranges and what not. the first time i saw airsoft god i was to to young to play. but all i did to make my parents say sure sing up and is. show them the WCAN rules and told them i would follew them to the letter. second i got a player's MSN from the team i play with and let my dad talk to the player fro about 30 min and that is all it really takes. just let one of your parents have a talk with one of the players for a time and see what happens. i thought that letting my dad talk to some that has played for a year or two was pretty smart of me.

Small flame, but it will help you inthe future; can you please make some effort and check your spelling and grammar? Thanks.

You're missing out. It's good times....


On topic, they're right man, wait 3 years, read a lot, it'll be better for you to wait, and on the plus side, you'll have time to talk with your parents about it and try to win them over a bit during that time.

Concentrate on doing teen things before trying to grow up and doing adult things. There's a whole slew of things you could be doing besides airsoft.

That are both cheaper, and more entertaining to a teen... 'specially if you want a straight bang for your buck comparison...

Why dont you get into paintball? play paintball for a few years and then come to airsoft, necause in paintball at least your allowed to play, there are kids your age playing so you'll be accepted better. After a few years of paintball you can just get into airsoft by saving up some more money and selling your paintball gear.

Gotta wait
 

According to the Criminal Code Airsoft guns fit the description of "replica firearm" and "imitation Firearm" consequently they are a prohibited device, and no one under the age of 18 can purchase one legally.

There is an exemption under the possession and transport sections of the Criminal code for possession so people can legally own them, but no one under 18 can. Other than the possession and transportation exemptions ( in that it is **not** an indictable offense to transport or possess replica firearms) all other sections of the criminal code with respect to Prohibited Devices apply to airsoft weapons.

These are **not toys ** in the perception of the law they are just as illegal as any other prohibited firearm, except you require no license to posses them.

The firearms act is pretty clear as to who can legally own Prohibited Devices.. and certainly no one under 18 years of age qualifies.

Someone over the age of 18 could buy it.. but it would be illegal for them to give it to you as only people and businesses licensed to trade in prohibited devices can "transfer" a prohibited device to someone who can legally own one
"transfer" means Sell, give , loan or rent,

Sorry Chrome.. you have to wait

Well, I'll be 15 in a month. My parent's say it's okay for me to get an airsoft gun, if I assume complete responsibility for it. I think it's a fair deal, but i'm not looking to purchase one right now. I'm browsing the forums, picking up things here and there, and hoping to get to know a few of you so when I do join the sport, I'm not all alone out there. I'm just looking for more of a MilSim type game than paintball.

This is totally wrong. If airsoft were prohibited devices nobody would be able to have them, 18 or otherwise. Everything you said in that post is absolutely wrong, I don't know if you made it up or you think you heard it somewhere but it's all completely bogus. Legally (except for in Ontario) under or over 18 makes no difference for airsoft.

Nic

I'd say wait untill youre 17 then take them out to a game let the game org or a player talk to them. Let him explain all the stuff that needs explaining and make sure he explains that the police cant shoot you just because you have a gun in public you have to comply or they can't shoot at you.

The player/org should explain everything fully and make them feel more comfortable about owning the airsoft.

Another option would be when youre 18. Either still living in your parents house or in a apartment/dorm then you buy it. (Be careful your parents might not like the idea of you having it in the house even if you're 18 and they might kick you out. But they love you too much to kick you out right?)

Next year join the reserves and show your parents you're responsible. Some people in the reserves play airsoft so you can get you're parents to talk to them. Plus they give you free CADPAT.

yes, free CADPAT which you shouldnt be using at paintball fields. Also you're suppose to return when/if you leave.

they also give you a "free" tac vest to ....
but if you bring any issued kit to a game and they catch you, you are in a world of hurt......
airsoft is airsoft , army is army. Please keep them seperate

tac vest? heh, i got old webbing ...

Heh, some guys are still wearing the old OD issue

Except... that is not the case

Read the post... look at the regulations, read the criminal code.

use .. LOGIC

1:1 scale duplication of "real steel" weapon = replica

Replica = Prohibited Device

Here is a relevant section from the CFC

3. Air guns that are replica firearms

These are air guns that are not powerful enough to cause serious injury or death, but that were designed to resemble a real firearm with near precision. Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices.

(anyone who pins their hopes on the description of Airsoft weapons as not being replicas because they can cause serious injury is in my opinion deluding themselves, saying something is more legal than an airgun because it is more dangerous is nonsensical)

However the Law says the only prohibited device that someone over 18 can posses and transport without commiting an offence is a "replica firearm"


Everyone gets hung up on the " cause bodily harm" thing as making airsoft weapons "not replicas" but the fact is that all the regulations and guidelines are subordinate to the Criminal Code

under the Criminal Code "Any thing" that looks like a real gun is a replica , full stop.
There is no metion of firing, non firing, Causing harm or not.

The legallity of possession of replicas is ***protected by*** the criminal code. and renders all other regulations and guidelines with respect to replicas as just so much "chatter"

If you are found with a replica .. it is under the Criminal code that charges will be laid, and if you are properly transporting and using it on private property .. there is no law broken.

If you are walking around downtown.. or leave it in your jeep open to public view... now you have committed an offense under the Code.

Everyone tries to cling to the "Airsoft guns are not replicas" thing by "wiggling" the regulations and leveraging the "wishy washy" descriptions under the regulations to support that position.

The regulations are fuzzy.. the Law is not and it is the Law what one would be charged under.

If you dissagree, I'm willing to be educated.

but please cite the regulations and laws applicable..to support your position

I can .. and have in the "airsoft and the law" thread, but I am as I said willing to be educated.. if I have it wrong... but certainly not by someone simply saying I'm wrong.. prove it

im only 12 and i am getting a crosman walther p22 airsoft pistol probably today so yeah. maybe my parents are underprotective.\

hey mike the great is there any airsofting spots near calgary? i live like 10 minutes away from calgary

Not that allow 12 year olds.

No offense pal (i lie) but if your 12 years old, leave now and never return. Ask your parents to call your ISP and have www.airsoftcanada.com banned from your access like most porn sites are to you little kids.

http://azoutdoor.net/media/catalog_images/p22l.gif
that thing?
dont bother.

You should get a set of bad ass RealTree(tm) BDUs to go with the P22

LMFAO

Hey don't laugh. There were a few guys with real tree at the last snow dragons game, that stuff looked comfy.

Does it actually help conceal your position? I can't really see that happening based on the pattern.

http://militarysurplusstore.com/cata...ve-t-shirt.jpg

Pink Carebear(tm) flannel sweat pants look comfy too, though.

i'd say it works rather good
http://www.sportsmenslink.org/issues...s/Realtree.jpg
http://www.oversizeoutfitters.com/ca..._brown4lrg.jpg i swear, if i saw that thing i'd think it was a tree or something...

http://www.realtree.com/community/im...-2-JPEG_lg.jpg

maybe more fitting for the point in case ;)

And they may provide great camoflauge at paint ball fields.

hahahaha touché!