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KwGeek July 26th, 2011 15:02

Airsoft larps and Roleplaying
 
first off , I was unsure if this is board would be the right one for this discussion, so if it's the wrong one, my apologies to every one.

Now I'm still new to airsoft, but I'm not at all new to roleplaying and larps.
An well I just wanted to know if I was to make my way to a airsoft larp, just how much roleplaying should I be expecting?

I know that airsoft lends it self perfectly to Cyberpunk, shadowrun and other types of post apocalyptic type of setting. I can also see it be use in more modern setting games like Vampire: the Masquerade and other White-wolf world of darkness games.

cause I have been in One too many RPS ( Rock-Paper-Scissors) mass combats that last way too long that I gave up on the whole larp scene.

Now I just wondering, at these airsoft larps, are there areas set up that are combat free areas? that it safe to take off you goggles if you choose to do so. An if so are these area set up for roleplaying over combat?

Also another thing, when I use to pantball, the rule was One hit= kill.
But I have heard that in airsoft that that's not always that case, that you are allow multiple hits before you have to call your self out. I understand that depends on the game and the rules that day. that sort of reminds the hitpoint system that most roleplaying games use.

I also know that most people that airsoft play to shoot other people, but being that I use to roleplay, I know that a good PC should have both a stats in ranged and close combat (most often either in melee or brawl) for a number of reasons, save on ammo, stealth kills and so forth.

I also understand that MILSIM are a form of roleplaying for some (or that's what it looks like to me from what I've seen online so far)

Anways, that's it for me so far, i look forward to hearing any and all thoughts about airsoft and roleplaying. just to get a better idea of how the two go together.

thanks for you time
KwGeek

ShelledPants July 26th, 2011 15:10

I participated in a loose airsoft LARP "Last Stand", based in the post apocalyptic Ontario, the NPC's posed small missions to search areas, get ambushed, kill other players, kill other NPCs... It was a blast.

A similar to heart game is being run in August, "Operation Hot Box" at the PRZ Picton facility, and will likely have a fair share of role playing.

The reason this role playing isn't as serious as "fantasy" LARP and more tongue and cheek is because the people involved aren't magical wood fairies, at least that's my take on it. We are, of course, dressing up to play soldier with toy guns. :)

Edit: MILSIM is not about LARP, it is about effective tactics, and a realistic approach to a military situation. I WILL roll my eyes if I see troops marching along...

Brian McIlmoyle July 26th, 2011 15:24

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1507339)
because the people involved aren't magical wood fairies,

Speak for yourself Mister


although there are clearly some elements of "LARP" in airsoft games.. there are distinct differences

for example there are no "characters" or "persona" adopted by the general players base.

Sometimes there are Roles Played by persons to advance the scenario but by and large the "person" you're playing is you in the situation presented.

but sometimes I do like to think I am a heavily armed magical wood fairie

Inquisitor July 26th, 2011 15:25

Don't forget that while there is airsoft games that use LARP elements, there is also LARPs that use airsoft.

I organized and I play in such games (Cyberpunk and Post-Apocalyptic). Because most of our players come from more traditional LARP games, it's very similar to those, with the exception that airsoft guns are used (and the setting, of course). We try to keep it that way, because most players prefer roleplaying instead of combat. Airsoft is primarly a tool to represent more accuratly firearms: Nerfs guns have poor range and accuracy, lasers are lame, rock-paper-scissors is to slow and breaks the roleplaying.

Our rule for combat is very simple. Every attack deals the same "damage". When you're it on a limb, you lose it; when you're it two times on the chest, you're down. Armors protects you from a certain number of attacks. Most of the times, the combat are very fluid.

I think both airsoft and LARP can gain from being mixed together. Airsoft has certainly given us the opportunity to do realistic battles and having a kick-ass visual.

Zeonprime July 26th, 2011 15:25

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1507343)
sometimes I do like to think I am a heavily armed magical wood fairie

oh that is so going in my signature :)

Ballcancer July 26th, 2011 15:26

Brian you dont have to think you are a magical wood fairy.. we all know you are :D .... many of us have seen the wood fairy gunrack

Brian McIlmoyle July 26th, 2011 15:27

wood fairies are kick ass

Grudge July 26th, 2011 15:34

http://images.wikia.com/fairlyoddpar...n_Strangle.jpg

KwGeek July 26th, 2011 15:42

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Originally Posted by multitech (Post 1507353)

Jorgen Von Strangle for the win

z0ng July 26th, 2011 17:40

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Originally Posted by KwGeek (Post 1507335)
Also another thing, when I use to pantball, the rule was One hit= kill.
But I have heard that in airsoft that that's not always that case, that you are allow multiple hits before you have to call your self out. I understand that depends on the game and the rules that day. that sort of reminds the hitpoint system that most roleplaying games use.

Airsoft is typically one hit = dead. Some games have wounding rules where hits to limbs simply disable that limb which is rather amusing, especially when trying to drag yourself down a hall because both your legs got shot out.

In a typical game though, if a person doesn't call their hits we just respectfully shoot them more until they do.

kalnaren July 26th, 2011 19:29

I've only ever played 1 game where the medic rules actually worked. Generally I found that players easily exploited them.

tigerland July 26th, 2011 20:27

I think a Shadowrun airsoft LARP would be totally badass

DrSmashPanda July 26th, 2011 22:42

I'd love to see someone pull off a shadowrun larp xD. Teleporting, spawning trees, cloaking or someone showing up in a troll costume lol.

Solomance July 26th, 2011 22:54

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Originally Posted by DrSmashPanda (Post 1507556)
I'd love to see someone pull off a shadowrun larp xD. Teleporting, spawning trees, cloaking or someone showing up in a troll costume lol.

That abomination is not Shadowrun.
No clue chummer.

Reckless July 26th, 2011 23:19

I've tried to put together a few ideas.. but the playerbase is what decides weither or not it works... if all the players around you are skirmishers or "mil sim" only .. then it'll never fly ... very similar to the lack of established ww2'ers ... if your not in the right area of players.. your SOL or traveling ALOT ...

the closest I've managed to do is a slowly evolving Zombie "series" where all the participants are very badly equiped civilians caught off guard .

KwGeek July 26th, 2011 23:22

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Originally Posted by DrSmashPanda (Post 1507556)
I'd love to see someone pull off a shadowrun larp xD. Teleporting, spawning trees, cloaking or someone showing up in a troll costume lol.

that FPS is only Shadowrun in name, I have been playing Shadowrun since 1ed and I still own my copies of all 4 editions and other then Cyberpunk, it is one of my favorite RPGS to play, with the world of darkness games mixed in there to round it out to three.

just take a moment to read the Wiki on shadowrun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun

to get an idea of what shadowrun is about.

TDH July 26th, 2011 23:31

Now you've gone and done it. Out of nostalgia I have gone and purchased the 4th addition ShadowRun rules...THANKS!!! Like airsoft was not addiction enough on its own y'awl have to go and bring up old role playing games. ;)

Aedan798 July 26th, 2011 23:47

well if anyone is up to get a airsoft LARP I can organised one with a system and everything in modern time its not the idea that are missiing I can mount taht for 2012 though and i'll need NPC people with me to get that running and we'll need a place for that too

oh on that note when people say we are equiped like soldier ... just get the damn uniform off and get that tact vest off and there you go your a civilian dah !!! its not difficult to run somewhere almost naked (well might be in public XD)

tigerland July 27th, 2011 19:47

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Originally Posted by Reckless (Post 1507577)
I've tried to put together a few ideas.. but the playerbase is what decides weither or not it works... if all the players around you are skirmishers or "mil sim" only .. then it'll never fly ... very similar to the lack of established ww2'ers ... if your not in the right area of players.. your SOL or traveling ALOT ...

the closest I've managed to do is a slowly evolving Zombie "series" where all the participants are very badly equipped civilians caught off guard .

There was a Really good Zombie RPG out back in 2004 i think, i don't remember what it was called though, your 3 choice's were Norm, Survivor and enlightened. If any one remembers the name please post it :D

KwGeek July 27th, 2011 20:22

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Originally Posted by tigerland (Post 1508021)
There was a Really good Zombie RPG out back in 2004 i think, i don't remember what it was called though, your 3 choice's were Norm, Survivor and enlightened. If any one remembers the name please post it :D

the game was called All flesh Must be eaten and it was produced by Eden Studios.
here's a web site for you if you care to take a look

http://www.allflesh.com/flesh.html

tigerland July 27th, 2011 20:43

Yes that's it i loved that game

Brian McIlmoyle July 27th, 2011 22:39

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Originally Posted by KwGeek (Post 1508037)
the game was called All flesh Must be eaten and it was produced by Eden Studios.
here's a web site for you if you care to take a look

http://www.allflesh.com/flesh.html


you are one of the few people who's nickname is actually very descriptive.

We've talked of running a shadow run game at TTAC3 .. and resolve the gunfights with AS

so a typical tabletop game... but once we get to combat.. we walk in to the big room and sort it out realtime. from what I remember about shadowrun's combat system.. it would speed up the game substantially.

Aedan798 July 27th, 2011 22:46

I'm talking about something completly different for me I dont know that shadow niether the op hotbox and I dont really care (but not saying its bad just dont really want to know them just that) cause it seems like they are a system I dont really want to play with the system I would like to mount is more of a HP and where you get it too and stuff like that with various possiblity regarding weapon system and weapon that can be use and by who with which class they have and they would have more LARP style system in that game

Brian McIlmoyle July 27th, 2011 23:11

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Originally Posted by Aedan798 (Post 1508152)
I'm talking about something completly different for me I dont know that shadow niether the op hotbox and I dont really care (but not saying its bad just dont really want to know them just that) cause it seems like they are a system I dont really want to play with the system I would like to mount is more of a HP and where you get it too and stuff like that with various possiblity regarding weapon system and weapon that can be use and by who with which class they have and they would have more LARP style system in that game


you wanna try that again... because what you just wrote makes no sense. Or you are french

Amos July 27th, 2011 23:16

Airsoft guns are tools,

You're free to make your own rule sets and run whatever you want, just make sure it's very well understood before the game and make sure you wear proper eye protection.

KwGeek July 27th, 2011 23:34

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1508145)
you are one of the few people who's nickname is actually very descriptive.

thanks I'll take that as a compliment.
I have been roleplaying and I play and own a number of games from the world of darkness series of game both old and new and for a number of years I played in a long running larp Called Waterloo by Night.

I also play video game quite a bit, hell I own a copy of both of the Army of Two games and I own the fallout 3 limited edition with lunch box and Vault boy Bobble head. I read comic books, so in short, I am a geek and damn proud of it as well.

But just to bring the discussion back to airsoft, I can see how roleplaying and AS can fit together, the only problem is that, unlike tabletop or RPS larps every thing is stat related and how good you are in some thing is dictated by your persona's stats. in airsoft you are only as good at some thing as you your self are skilled at in that area.

But that's not to say that that can not changed with a little practice.

Aedan798 July 28th, 2011 19:37

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1508168)
you wanna try that again... because what you just wrote makes no sense. Or you are french

francais et fiere de letre

Deleniel March 16th, 2016 14:06

IS this thread still alive?

BioRage March 16th, 2016 14:09

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Originally Posted by Deleniel (Post 1974701)
IS this thread still alive?

It's been 5 years, what do you think? ;)

Ricochet March 16th, 2016 14:59

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Originally Posted by Deleniel (Post 1974701)
IS this thread still alive?

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