Ak5C Petition
 

Hi Guys,

I know Swedish camouflage is quite sought after, and I know a few guys on this forum use it also... This post is especially relevant to those people who use M/90 camouflage and/or own a G&G GF85 Airsoft gun...

Since 2006, the Swedish Armed Forces have been issuing the Ak5C.

Here is a photo of the gun in question: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e/AK5Cesar.JPG

The Ak5C adds a number of improvements to the Ak5A rifle. Most notably being:

New handguard with RIS Rails for Grips, Flashlights and Laser systems
Collapsible and folding stock
Shorter barrel, designed for better handling in Urban combat and CQB
Upper receiver rail for the mounting of the issued Aimpoint CS Red dot optic
Integrated Flip Up Iron sights
A bolt catch
New STANAG compatible Waffle magazines made of clear Polymer
Barrel sling mount
G36K style flashhider
Right side safety selector

In 2010, the Airsoft Manufacturer G&G decided to release their GF85 Airsoft gun, which is supposed to replicate an Ak5 but misses out on several of the smaller features which makes the Ak5A differ from the original FNC.

Many Swedish airsoft players have been after the Ak5C and some have even taken to scratch building the parts needed.

I have since decided to start up a petition for G&G to produce the Ak5C, as either an out of the box, ready to fire airsoft gun, or as a conversion kit for their existing GF85 series rifles.

Here is the link to the petition: http://www.petitiononline.co.uk/peti...rsion-kit/3223

I am in contact with Daniel from Airsoft.nu, a Swedish Airsoft news and reviews website and they have featured the petition and myself in a news article, unfortunately it is only in Swedish but you could try Google Translate if you don't happen to know the language:

http://www.airsoft.nu/nyheter/2011/0...du-ha-en-ak5c/

Airsoft.nu is in contact with G&G asking about new product suggestions and they have requested the Ak5C a few times, but they haven't produced it. Hopefully with the petition attracting signatures from all over the globe, it may show G&G that producing the Ak5C will be worthwhile and we may get the gun which we are after.

I thank in advance, those people who sign the petition! It has only been running for 3 days and it already has 60 signatures, and I hope we will be able to reach the 1000 signature mark by the end of the year!

Again, thanks very much!

/Josh

Signed! Good luck with your petition man!

Glad to support a fellow airsofter :P

Amen. I would buy two of those in a heartbeat!

SIGNED!

Signed. I would love to sell these at my store :)

That is fantastic to hear! I'm very grateful for all your signatures! Please keep em coming!

/Josh

You got a store? And signed!

Thanks, it is good to have support from players and retailers alike... It has 68 signatures and that was only in 3 days! Hopefully we can break 100 by next week and 1000 by the end of the year!

Thanks,

/Josh

Chances are you will hit 1000 before the end of the year for sure.

I hope so, my sources at Airsoft.nu say that they don't think 1000 GF85 AEGs have been produced yet, my friends estimate only 500-800, so 1000 names of potential buyers is bound to show them that there is great demand for such a product.

It is good to have the confidence boost Kit, and it is good to have you on the petition!

I'll also inquire about an M203 mount, for all those people who are fond of the 40 mike mike launchers...

Thanks again,

/Josh

That's the version G&G should have built.

I used to play on an M90 wearing team. The AK5C would look perfect for them.

Yes, IMO the only gun that should go with M/90 is the Ak5 of some variation, just like the only guns for Flecktarn are G3s and G36s...

Why they decided to build the obsolete version, I don't know, but I have a feeling it they wanted to appeal to the Northern European market, so when they released their FNC rifles, it was easy enough to design a new Ak5-like handguard and paint the guns green...

However, G&G's GF85 misses out on a lot of the smaller parts that have been changed on the Ak5:

The Front sight ring
Cocking handle - Should be a round knob
Magazine release button - Should be a circle
Pistol grip - should be smooth - not ribbed
Apparently the rear sight is slightly different also...

I have seen people with scratch built versions of the handguard, fitted onto a star FNC, and it is possible to fix these part's yourself, but I really think that G&G aught to had paid more attention to detail, like they usually do.

I hope that if this conversion kit is released, we should get replacement parts for all the ones G&G missed out if it will be released as a conversion kit, and pre fitted if it is a ready made gun.

Thanks,

/Josh

I signed the petition.

So surprising G&G didn't put much effort into their AK5. Their version of the Finnish RK95 is fantastic! They really should redeem themselves and do a proper AK5C.

For anyone with an interest is the Swedish airsoft scene, here's a link to their forum: http://airsoftsverige.com/ It's all in Swedish, of course, but a good browser will help with built-in translation options.

Yup, I agree, I have also advertised the petition on Airsoft Sverige where I have had a lot of success.

The Valmet Rk95 they did looks fantastic, however I don't think there is a scope mount for it yet, as the Finnish field the weapon with ACOGs and the Aimpoint CS, the red dot which the petition is also campaigning for...

I do think that the GF85 was somewhat lazy, however it hasn't diminished my opinion that G&G is the best manufacturer because of the range of guns they produce and the high level of quality of their products...

Thanks,

/Josh

Your very welcome man. I hope it happens!

I have spoken to G&G, and they said an Ak5C replica is in the pipe, they're still trying to get more information on it, but they said it is something they will probably produce! :D

It'll probably be a few months before they produce any prototypes, they're looking for more photographs and even real weapon parts to model it on, I'm getting in contact with people for them so stay frosty and you'll probably hear something about it later on this year!

/Josh

It doesn't help matters that the AK5 is such a fluid design - constantly evolving. That's no surprise given the Swedish Forsvarsmakten has no previous combat experience, and are just learning in Afghanistan what works and what doesn't.

I don't think the AK5 will have another major overhaul, it has been in service since 1984 so I think when the FvM need a weapon overhaul, they'll probably switch guns to something completely different. But, considering the AK5C has only been issued since 2006-07, they're gonna squeeze as much use out of it as possible, so I don't see it disappearing anytime soon...

I think the AK5C will probably be in service, until about 2020, the MARKUS (Future Infantry Program, similar to IdZ and Future Force Warrior) soldier of 2015 is depicted with an AK5C...

I read somewhere that it cost the Swedish military more to upgrade the AK5 to C standard than it would be to completely switch to the G36, I'm not sure how true this is though...

/Josh

signed! sexy rifle. and it is green which is absolutely awesome.

Cheers! :) Every signature counts!

/Josh

I could see that being the case.

That folding/collapsible stock on the AK5C looks like it must be expensive to manufacture - certainly when compared to something simpler, like the injection molded IdZ stock planned for future G36s. The Aimpoint scope probably accounts for a good chunk of change too. Any parts specific to the AK5 would have to carry a higher price tag, given the limited production numbers.

BTW, I have seen photos of Swedish SSG operators using various models of the G36, and I understand all Swedish troops get familiarization training with M16s and AK-74s.

Signed, lets hope they start producing them

Yes, I've seen the G36 stock, it looks... Weird I suppose the best description for it would be. I have also seen the SSG photos. I also have a German loadout with a G36A2:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._7368860_n.jpg

When I start seeing Germans in the field with the new stock and things as standard, I'll change my G36 accordingly...

I don't know the specifics, but I have seen the Swedish on exercise abroad carrying AKs, the Finnish RK95 and the M4 when they go out with the Americans.

Yeah, the parts would probably be rather expensive, the civilian price for the Aimpoint is between $400 to $600...

/Josh

I am partly the reason for this, I have regular contact with G&G and I have been sending them a lot of information to assist their RD team.

The replica is actually in the pipe! :D

/Josh

Next up, find someone to make a makarov!

Good work, btw!

IIRC KWC is making an NBB CO2 one. TOO MANY ACRONYMS IN THAT SENTENCE.

So, any update in this matter. Im really looking fordward for an airsoft version of the AK5C !!

Yuppy !!

EvikeTV [The Gun Corner] - G&G GK5C Full Metal AEG - YouTube

Done

Hi everyone, sorry to necro this thread.
As everyone knows, this petition was a success and during this time, guay2 have started to produce the AK5C to many Swedish milsimers delight (including myself, owns two copies of it atm!)
Now me and my friend have started a own petition for the aimpoint CS red dot sight since there is'nt any substitute or replica for that sight and it's necessary to complete an Swedish soldier impression, so if as many as possibly could sign this I and a lot of milsimers would be grateful!

https://www.change.org/petitions/gua...he-aimpoint-cs

Sincerely
Skuggraven