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Statua March 28th, 2011 21:11

Use of suppressors on AEG's?
 
Are they practical or do they just look good? Like does it actually suppress the sound and make you less noticeable or does the whining of the motor still give you away?

Styrak March 28th, 2011 21:18

Not very practical on an AEG but they do dampen the sound somewhat. They change it, lower the sound from a "whip whip" to a "whump whump".

On the TM MK23 non-blowback a silencer is amazing. On GBB pistols they do almost nothing.

Cactus-man March 28th, 2011 21:22

hahaha "whip whip" to "whump whump" is true, but it's mostly there for looks

kharyunn March 28th, 2011 21:28

They are more used for extending the inner barrel. It is an effective way and a good aesthetic way as well. So if you are looking for a longer barrel and you do not want to buy a whole new outer barrel go with a silencer.

Statua March 28th, 2011 22:50

So what would they suppress on? I know there are some foam filled made to suppress.

R.I.T.Z March 28th, 2011 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Statua (Post 1437953)
So what would they suppress on? I know there are some foam filled made to suppress.

On AEG's the bb exiting the barrel makes a whip or "pop" the suppressor muffles this a little, but the motor is the main cause of sound so really is just cosmetic used to cover a longer inner barrel.

On a GBB it useless but looks cool

On the TM MK23 NBB it is amazing the audible noise is next to nothing.

Twin#1[Op-for] March 28th, 2011 22:56

Each gun is a little different, but I know it actually makes a big difference on GBBR's especially.

Frozen Tex March 28th, 2011 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1437957)
On a GBB it useless but looks cool

Worse than useless; on some GBBs the extra weight on the front of the outer barrel will cause the rear of the outer barrel to rub against the inside top of the slide, creating friction and slowing or even stopping the slide in mid-cycle.

But on an AEG, if it's not cover for a longer inner barrel, it just looks cool. And a gun that goes "whump, whump, whump" should look like it's supposed to sound like that! ;)

Styrak March 28th, 2011 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1437957)
On AEG's the bb exiting the barrel makes a whip or "pop" the suppressor muffles this a little, but the motor is the main cause of sound so really is just cosmetic used to cover a longer inner barrel.

On a GBB it useless but looks cool

On the TM MK23 NBB it is amazing the audible noise is next to nothing.

Yay an echo! LOL.

FOX_111 March 28th, 2011 23:34

My supressed TM P90tr work great.
One of the few AEG that the supressor actually supress something.

Kefray March 28th, 2011 23:59

there was a superb post, kinda recent, that I can't find anymore, with decibels testing with different kinds of suppressors...

If I remember right, bottom line is : average sound decrease -> -20% to -40% with a foam suppressor.

edit: found it, was tested with a mk23. http://www.justpistols.co.uk/silencer_comparison.htm

theguy March 29th, 2011 00:03

Suppressors definitely take some of the sharp edge off an AEG cycling, but in my experience they don't really decrease the volume.

If you want to effectively reduce the volume of your rifle, look into a sorbo pad.

D.Kovacs March 29th, 2011 00:07

depends on the gun and the suppressor you use, my UMP with the suppressor that's made for it is deadly quiet.

Able1 March 29th, 2011 00:17

My gun doesnt make any noise what so ever with a suppressor on, oh wait I need to put the battery in.

highny March 29th, 2011 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by theguy (Post 1437990)
look into a sorbo pad.

Not only for AEG, but BA as well.. The only sound you hear is me cocking the bolt...

talon March 29th, 2011 15:56

I've had a suppressor on a couple of my AEGs, and it was apparently stupid quiet. Couldn't hear shots in a small CQB environment, from what I was told. Both were stock, one TM MP5, one a CA m4. Not sure if FPS made the difference, or just that it was a stock piston, etc. running. Either way, it'll depend on what you're running.

Crunchmeister March 29th, 2011 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 1437976)
My supressed TM P90tr work great.
One of the few AEG that the supressor actually supress something.

Ditto for my E90. It has a really sharp crack without the suppressor. With it, it muffles is substantially.

I've tried putting my supressor on my GBBR, and it does about the same, lessening the muzzle "pop" to a subdued "whump" instead. Not s huge difference, since the majority of the sound comes from the bolt cycling and the gas venting from there, but still makes an audible difference.

But for the most part, most gearboxes will make too much noise for a supressor to effectively suppress the gun

scubasteve March 29th, 2011 18:06

Here's a pretty good comparrison for you. Everybody in this vid has a normal AEG. I have a RS type 56-1 with a suppresor. At .24 you can here me start to shoot.

http://s747.photobucket.com/albums/x...t=MVI_1621.mp4

Statua March 29th, 2011 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by scubasteve (Post 1438384)
Here's a pretty good comparrison for you. Everybody in this vid has a normal AEG. I have a RS type 56-1 with a suppresor. At .24 you can here me start to shoot.

http://s747.photobucket.com/albums/x...t=MVI_1621.mp4

Yeah I can only hear the gearbox there. So coolness wins but suppressing ability doesn't really happen. Thanks guys.

KBarlow March 31st, 2011 18:01

Yeah, suppression is negligible, even with the ones with foam inserts.

I'm wondering if those sorbo pads require any internal modification aside from installing the pad itself.

Whiskey March 31st, 2011 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBarlow (Post 1439817)
Yeah, suppression is negligible, even with the ones with foam inserts.

I'm wondering if those sorbo pads require any internal modification aside from installing the pad itself.

I would recommend having an actual gun tech install one. (sorbo pad that is)

highny March 31st, 2011 18:56

A bit off topic here, why wouldn't it do anything for a GBBR?...

Styrak March 31st, 2011 19:17

Same reason it doesn't do anything for a GBB?

Danke March 31st, 2011 20:07

Some of you folks are falling into a common trap.

A suppressor quiets the sound down range. Think of it as like a muffler on your car. You can still the engine but a lot of the noise has been removed.

So if you have your ear pressed to the gearbox or right over the breach you won't notice much. It is unlikely you'll be shooting many targets that have their ear that close to the moving parts.

The real world question is if it's worth it. Only you can decide that.

KBarlow April 2nd, 2011 01:52

So do you need to modify any of the internals to make a sorbo pad work or is it a drop in modification?

ThunderCactus April 2nd, 2011 03:26

Gotta cut the second tooth off your piston so it doesn't break

And I've built a custom air brake for my M4, all you hear now is the winding of the gears :p

FACE April 2nd, 2011 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1439884)
Some of you folks are falling into a common trap.

A suppressor quiets the sound down range. Think of it as like a muffler on your car. You can still the engine but a lot of the noise has been removed.

So if you have your ear pressed to the gearbox or right over the breach you won't notice much. It is unlikely you'll be shooting many targets that have their ear that close to the moving parts.

The real world question is if it's worth it. Only you can decide that.

What Danke said.A+++ I used to think that a suppressor didn't do anything until I lent my Echo 1 SCAR to someone else and he was a few meters away when i noticed I could hardly hear it when he shot it.

I myself have gone the other way and have put on a Noveske fire pig on just cause it sounds cool. My theory is, by the time I shoot my gun and they hear it, I'm hoping to have already hit them. :cool:

BA Snipers on the other hand should be quite cause they only have limited shots.


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