Would you Buy the Socom Gear Cheytec M200?
 

So, was just checking out Redwolfs Vids and saw their new vid of the Socom Gear m200 Intervention, would anyone actually go buy one? its hell of a lot of money and its hugeee which in my opinion, not exactly feasible for skirmishes but maybe for milsims? even milsim wise, its not like your gun can shoot 1.6km =.=

what do ya think guys? would you guys buy it to actually go play it in a game?

Anyone who buys this would not be gaming it, it'd be for collection purposes.

My Opinion,

Oh yes, I would... I'm large built, this would be almost perfect for milsim... There are only a few BIG caveats to it..

One: The operation of a rifle like this will ALMOST certainly require a good support team, this is a heavy rifle, a sniper switching positions after squeezing off a couple of kills needs cover fire or a co-ordinated defensive stance, from ALL members of the team. Which means under all circumstances, the sniper becomes the main team asset, and any strike or defense team members are likely going to have to have their shit together, this is a rarity, however, well planned teams are out there.

Two: People will not understand the value of this, so people will bitch and complain and berate it because they are not using it right. But! People can be ignored.

Three: The bolt's capacity, the gas is loaded into the bolt itself, and it uses the cartridge as an apparent expansion chamber. This means, shots are limited to the capacity of a bolt, not the individual shells. This can be remedied with a quick reload on the field by carrying a reinforced shell around your RED/TOP/GREEN/whatever gas can.

Four: AND I save this one for last: Price: at Redwolf's prices, oh HELL YEAH! but sadly, by the time this hits the store shelves here, its going to cost as much as a used car, or an engagement ring, or that trip that you've been wanting to take to that nice 5 star beach resort, this will make you go crazy, and then you'll end up getting your PAL and RPAL and getting yourself a real gun becaaaaause... its just smarter to get your rocks off that way.... This, unfortunately, we cannot stop or change so lets not get all happy and in a tizzy about this...

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...&highlight=dmz

one of our guys just got one. wicked gun

I think its mostly a COD fanboy gun. As awesome as it is, its really expensive and quite large. Only people who have the money and the extreme interest in one will play with it. I think its awesome, but ill never own one. Mostly due to cost.

you sure thats the socom gear one? cuz ares makes one as well cept its not shell ejecting

I feel like it should be used by a team of two. I'm strong enough to lug it around for hours, but that's not gonna cut it. It should be strictly milsim. Have the admin set them up somewhere, and consider them an obstacle to the objective. I'd love the challenge of delicately selecting cover while pressing the objective. Keep your f***ing head down and your squad tight. That's a good time in Airsoft. Make counter sniper operations a priority, and make those 14 year olds with their m700's feel useful. Those 8mm's reach, carry and hurt.

I'd happily pay the cost to be the sniper/spotter in an objective based milsim. 'course you could do that with any Airsoft rifle. But somehow, this one's special. I feel like manning a 50 cal rifle and going for soft targets should be a big deal, as well as a treat for both teams. But that's just me. I'd happily pass up my m200 to an experienced player or vet to make some rounds count with me while I spotted and suprressed.

+1 but I would have included a few swears and made a crack about someone having a small dick lol

A good friend has an ARES I believe, weights over 20lbs with scope. not to mention long as heck even with the stock collapsed...you couldn't pay me to carry it around a sim when I can use my VSR-10 with better range and accuracy.

its shell ejecting is it not?

so before you move you have to pick up all your empty shells.

Even if its for the realism for a milsim, its kinda not that real if your picking up empty shells every time you want to move location.

Weight shouldnt be an issue, it just means you need to do more pushups, which just adds to your badassery! lol

If it won't range out to at least 300' it may be a bit impractical. At 53" long it's going to be hard to creep around with.

Exactly. I don't get it how many of the above posts talk about the guy with this gun being an asset; I don't think they are considering this gun actually shoots like crap. I doubt it can even go over the 200ft. mark with any kind of accuracy.


Fox.

Maybe not. But still, if you can be imaginative enough to make an objective for milsim, there's nothing wrong with setting two guys up in a convenient location to shoot from and considering them an obstical to the offensive team(s). Or just let them use vsr's. W.e. I just feel like because it's large, it may aswell be an emplacement weapon, and used as such. I'm not saying make them a team asset, I'm saying let em take shots at the offending team with mild accuracy at a slightly greater range. To add to the difficulty at the very least. I probably don't need to tell you how much more careful people are when they're told there's an asshole with a fifty poking around.

Yea... I get what you're saying though. Not much of an asset if you can't hit a body out past 200ft. I'm sure with practice and repetition, you might tag a few stragglers. But outside that window you'd be useless. I'd like to be able to consider myself a collector one day, and owning a fifty (real steel and Airsoft) is on my bucket list. That's honestly my motive behind defending it's use. It'd be fun to say the least. There's no denying that.

It get's worse when someone with a an upgraded AEG starts hosing you from farther out than you can fire back.

As a wow that's a cool showpiece that hangs on a wall and gets out to a game once a year sure.

As this is my regular go to boomstick; no way (have seen it in person).

The real one is only practical because it can reach out so far that no one can spot the shooter and fire back before they've bugged out. The size is not a handicap in that scenario.

One of the guys out west bought one. Sucks to be him the softest it will shoot is 8MM 43g BB at 480fps which works out to roughly 630fps with 20g 6mm So there is no way to game it and in a legal sence it's a Firearm.

Looks awesome! will blow up a full can of coke something awesome but that is about the only use.

This rifles minimum with .48 is 325 with the co2 bolt its around a 50% increase frome 325 so around 487.5 fps so he shopuld be fine with the green gas bolt. but the co2 will be an issue.

I'm sure something like that will only ever be used by one of those "trusted" snipers, the sort of people at games where nobody cares what he's shooting. Plus, I'd run it on duster to drop the velocity if the Green Gas is still pushing it.

Would I pay that money? Doubtful... Although...

Must... Not... Spend...

The gun shoots 330FPS out of the box unless he somehow upgraded it i don't see how its shooting 480 FPS on 8mm 43g bbs....

The co2 bolt that you can get for it brings it up their between that and 520 fps

525 fps with .48 g bb's with the co2 bolt that's over 9 joules of energy witch = firearm haha

And no I didn't upgrade it it shoot to par with local club standards. But the co2 bolt will over do it by about 200 feet. With the c02 bolt I can get about 375 ft out of it with .48's on a non windy day.

Yeah, with what accuracy? We can all do 375, it's just a matter of hitting a human-sized target at that distance.
Also, FPS doesn't really say much, did you actually upgrade anything else?


Fox.

The accuracy would probibly be about a 8" diameter. And no nothing has been upgraded but I did send out a few emails for a tight bore and it looks promising.

I can get a human sized target at 450 ft. But with some trial and error 500 wasn't too hard, about 6/10 hit.

hey ive got the barrett 50 from socom gear and bought it just cause i personally thought it was sweet.....i know that socom gear has the m200 and so does ares....but what about the beta project m200??? the springer.....has anyone had experience with it??? i was thinking about getting one....i seen a review that said its alot lighter than the socom gear one and you dont have to pick up shells after your done shooting. the price is alot better on it too, you can pick one up for 500 to 600$ in the states and if its shooting 366fps to 500fps im sure you can import it. im thinking about it.....any thoughts??

Thing is, you clearly don't know what you're talking about when you drop human sized at 500ft. Tell us how it was measured, in what situation you got those results and so on.

Fully upgraded VSR-10 variants strive for a max range of 300ft. (in the best of field scenarios), with human-sized accuracy; that's a well stablished rifle, at 600 FPS (and FPS is the LEAST important factor here, anyway), and with years of research behind it (as well as TONS of custom work and trial and error from each individual user). And I'm supposed to buy it you measure it right, and some STOCK gun, just because it's shooting hot is supposed to go that far, that precise? Just 'cos it's a Cheytac and it cost a fortune doesn't mean it's supposed to act like its RS counterpart; specially not OOtB.

Plus, no offense, but if I see someone gaming that thing, I just stop for a sec to laugh at 'em.


Fox.

Measured with a measuring wheel on a road with a slight decine, on a windless day at about +3 at a styrofoam rectangle 3x6.5 (not exactly to human scale but meh). With madbull .48g 8mm bb's powerd by co2. I'm not saying it was practical in any scence shooting at 500ft but it is possible if your targets asleep or just being silly and not moving.

I'd buy the ares one before the socom gear cause its gas and spring and shoots 6mm so you can use BB Bastard CNC machined BBs (Nites and pearls). But this is if i have either A)an insanely good paying and secure job. B)lottery.

J_march- Beta project M200 is an ARES rebrand.

i was thinking about getting the ares one before i decided on the socom gear one but something about shell ejection just seemed so cool. besides i like the challenge of having to be a good sniper and be stealthy, than being an "airsoft sniper" and just run and gun everywere. no offence by "airsoft sniper" i do that too but the socom gear one just has that little extra challenge to it.

Airsoft sniper? Run and gun? Oxymoron.

Somebody plays a bit too much MW2

haha what a bunch of haters....let the man enjoy his gun....not all airsoft guns are thee deffinition of practical.....how much fun would it be if we all ran around with m4's?? or only aeg's??? sometimes it seems like people hate on something just cause they cant afford it......might not be the case but who cares if someone is using a 30 pound bolt action? haha

I don't know what you consider to be "fine", but I sure as hell don't want to be shot with a 0.48 gram projectile at 325fps at any range... this equates to 3.9 Joules of power, which translates to 650fps with a 0.20g BB.

If you're willing to a random player take a shot at your face with that gun, then they may let you take it on the same field they play on.

But not many of us can do it at that FPS with 0.48g BB's...