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Mr Haezelnut September 18th, 2010 14:04

Snipers in Canada.
 
Hey there everybody,

I'm going to start out by saying that I am a complete noob at airsoft, and in no way am I interested in the 'High end' guns that you find at 007 airsoft, redwolf, and places like that. I play with Wal-Mart grade guns. Because i'm on a budget. The fact that these guns are clear is absolutely no problem to me. I just want to shoot stuff.

Anyways, on with the question. I am on the lookout for a clear, fairly good quality sniper (with or without a scope), that i can get into or from Canada. I found one on evike.com, for 50 bucks (link: http://tinyurl.com/286r36a ) but i'm not sure if i can get it into Canada or not.


So if you know any places/websites that i can get a sniper from Canada, or from the US into Canada, or the one that I previously mentioned, I would be very thankful. And no 1159.99 Dragunovs from UNC.



Thanks alot! :)

scurvythepirate September 18th, 2010 14:09

Well one this for sure is that thats a true POS.

Cheap and quality dont go well together.
If you really want to play airsoft you better get ready to spend at least 400-600 dollars on a good sniper, TM, CA, Tanaka, just to name a few.

What you're looking at will break sooner than later, pretty much in 5 or so shots.

Being a sniper is VERY expensive, hence why i don't affiliate myself with it.
Get quality or go home.

VooDooPeteK September 18th, 2010 14:11

If you get age verified there are a ton of Canadian retailers that sell lower end sniper rifles.

You are going to be hard pressed finding one for $50 but if you up your budget to say maybe $200 plus shipping you can find a cheap rifle.

Just remember you will get what you pay for :)

Mr Haezelnut September 18th, 2010 14:17

Well, i'm not up to spending 400 bucks, and do you mean getting verified on this site?

VooDooPeteK September 18th, 2010 14:19

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Originally Posted by Mr Haezelnut (Post 1317515)
Well, i'm not up to spending 400 bucks, and do you mean getting verified on this site?


yes getting AVed on this site

also keep in mind the one you linked to from evike is out of stock and is also not going to be $50 when you add shipping, customs/duty charges and all that jaz

so to spend $200+ shipping for one in country would be a better bet no?

pusangani September 18th, 2010 14:22

Snipers in Canada? Maybe try the Canadian Forces, I'm sure they have snipers but I don't think they are allowed to sell personnel.

Read FAQ, get av'd, don't try importing yourself, airsoft is expensive in Canada, cheap ting no good and good ting no cheap.

/thread

Mr Haezelnut September 18th, 2010 14:25

Ok, if anyone has any sites I can visit please post!

( And yes, $200 is a possibility if its in canada.)

HKGhost September 18th, 2010 15:01

If you're 18+, meet up with a verifier to get aged verified. After doing this, you will have access to the classified on this site. There you might find some cheap sniper rifle but they're not in the $50-100 range. More like $250+ and that's for a POS. Decent ones start around $350+ and good ones start around $700+. Good luck.

Mr Haezelnut September 18th, 2010 15:11

POS? Sorry, again, I'm a noob.

FACE September 18th, 2010 15:16

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Originally Posted by Mr Haezelnut (Post 1317537)
POS? Sorry, again, I'm a noob.

Piece Of Shit.

Skruface September 18th, 2010 17:06

To actually be competitive, it costs far more to build a decent "sniper" setup with repeatable accuracy than a garden-variety AEG that can throw a lot more bb's.

For what it's worth, there's no "fairly good" quality sniper rifles that you will find in Canada for under $400. Period. Anything you find under that price range will be a fixer-upper that requires some knowledge and TLC and, as a noob, you do not want to touch; alternately, it will be a brand new POS that has no repeatable accuracy...

SniperSam September 18th, 2010 17:15

Indeed, being a sniper is expensive in both countries, if you want to perform well. I bought a TM VSR 10 back in the states for about 150$, then spent about twice that upgrading it, and then I sold it for a good 300$. And a good pointer, do NOT try to smuggle in airsoft guns

VooDooPeteK September 18th, 2010 17:25

Keep in mind he mentioned that he is playing with walmart grade guns right now so almost anyting he pics up will seem like an improvement

Shrapnel[Op-For] September 18th, 2010 17:37

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Originally Posted by SniperSam (Post 1317591)
Indeed, being a sniper is expensive in both countries, if you want to perform well. I bought a TM VSR 10 back in the states for about 150$, then spent about twice that upgrading it, and then I sold it for a good 300$. And a good pointer, do NOT try to smuggle in airsoft guns

Why are you even mentioning that you bought a gun and illegally smuggled it across the border?

ThunderCactus September 18th, 2010 17:45

lol I love these threads
Okay, never start out sniping in airsoft, believe me it's nothing close to what you think it could possibly be.
Your going to want to start off with a regular automatic electric gun, the cheapest and generally well regarded as a decent cheap starter is the kraken AK, and those are usually around 200$
You COULD play airsoft with a cheap clearsoft POS from walmart, but for 80$ you can't fix it, can't upgrade it, you have to buy a new one if it breaks, and the performance is just so far below what you'll find on the field, it's WELL worth it to spend the 200$ on the kraken.
By all means you can try using a walmart gun on a field, we're just telling you there's a very high chance your not going to have fun :)

Castle September 18th, 2010 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrapnel[Op-For] (Post 1317599)
Why are you even mentioning that you bought a gun and illegally smuggled it across the border?

Maybe he only used it in America?

Mr Haezelnut, my question to you is... do you want a gun that actually functions like a sniper rifle or do you just want something that vaguely resembles one in design?

T-Hell September 18th, 2010 18:44

Sniper is a very unique roll even in airsoft. I am +1 to thundercactus don't start playing with a sniper rifle. you will soon get pissed at being hit and having not much you can do about it...

Cabellas sells the Aftermath Kracken for like said 200.00 get that.. have some fun, save up

a decent gun say a TM brand VSR10 in Canada from ASC will probably cost you $400-600 then if it is not already you will need to do some upgrades...

you can play stock and that is fine but getting less range and less accuracy will put you at the mercy of the AEG's

upgraded you will be able to give someone the love Tap from further away..

Diabolic Tyrant September 18th, 2010 20:27

Sniping isnt like the movies, you will fucking suck absolute dick at it until you pour lots of money and time into it, its not fun to start out with, I dont know why all you fucking kids come here expecting to be pulling off fucking quick scopes and being super elite speshl forces n stuff.

Mr Haezelnut September 19th, 2010 07:02

The funny thing is, i do have a $150 AEG (from wal-mart) and i enjoy it quite alot. And, again, (or maybe i didn't mention this) I'm not playing with elite players or anything. I just have a group of friends and only three of us have anything other than a pistol. (Mind you, most of us spent 50 bucks on them)

Just gonna let you guys know what i use, and see if its of any help.

DPMS M4 Carbine (250 FPS)
'Desert Eagle' [Cybergun] (200 FPS)

Mr Haezelnut September 19th, 2010 07:05

And to answer your question, Castle, I would like both of those. Being like the structure of your question makes it seem like you can't have it that way without paying an arm or a leg, my second answer would be functionality. Although something like a spring M4 would kinda suck, i like the idea of single shot, and bolt action. No matter if it's a POS or not.

CDN_Stalker September 19th, 2010 08:53

An idea of what you can get for cheap and after age verification, someone recently put up a KJW M700 (gas) sniper rifle, with scope, for $250. Outside of something like that, you'll likely pay at least $600 for a basic rifle, then even more after that for better internals, scope, etc.

Boyso September 19th, 2010 09:37

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Originally Posted by Mr Haezelnut (Post 1317520)
Ok, if anyone has any sites I can visit please post!

( And yes, $200 is a possibility if its in canada.)

You might be able to grab a nice scope and a quality bipod for 200$.

Save 1000$ and then buy a sniper. When you can only shoot once, you need that BB to go where it's supposed to. You don't have the volume of fire to compensate for accuracy.

zone 69 September 19th, 2010 09:41

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pic#1 The best Walmart has to offer . And the best ClearSoft you can get from CT. You will own your group of friends.

And dont order from evike.com, chances are you will not get your order. Stick to a Canadian based company.

Donster September 19th, 2010 09:47

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Originally Posted by Mr Haezelnut (Post 1317515)
Well, i'm not up to spending 400 bucks, and do you mean getting verified on this site?

$400 will get you a well or TSD L96. Usually noobs opt for something like that (against our judgement) but you are the first to say that you dont even want to get that.

Aquamarine September 19th, 2010 11:33

I'm a sniper... but I'm not in Canada. You can still buy me though, I'm pretty inexpensive, but I'm not clear.

shiftsup September 19th, 2010 11:45

If and when you are 18 you can always get one of those clone M14 AEGs that come with a side mount rail. Slap a cheap clone optic on it and voila you are a "sniper". Having something like this will allow you to comfortably skirmish against other players besides your current group if you choose to do so.

If you are 18 and dead set on getting a bolt action airsoft gun there are ACM VSR-10's in Canada going for ~$200.

SHaKaL September 19th, 2010 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrapnel[Op-For] (Post 1317599)
Why are you even mentioning that you bought a gun and illegally smuggled it across the border?

He was living in the states when he bought the rifle.. He never said he smuggled it...

VooDooPeteK September 19th, 2010 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 1317851)
I'm a sniper... but I'm not in Canada. You can still buy me though, I'm pretty inexpensive, but I'm not clear.

The shipping would kill him and put him WAY over his budget lol

CDN_Stalker September 19th, 2010 14:26

Annoying as fuck (still) when a gun is referred to as a person/role. Sniper is the role/person that uses it as such, I've been a sniper using a silent pistol at 30ft and racked up a half dozen kills. A sniper RIFLE is used by the sniper to get longer range kills. Whenever I see someone post "I want a cheap sniper" I'm always posting "I'll snipe for you, just pay the travel and my expenses and I'll be your sniper." Baffles me to no end actually.

VooDooPeteK September 19th, 2010 14:40

Also to say he wont be happy with a cheap sniper rifle well who knows, I bet with the info given by the OP that he would be.

Its like playing all the time with a walmart aeg and then telling someone they wont be happy with a kraken. I bet a kraken is the kings shit compared to walmart guns.

having fun is only what you make of it and how many times have the guys with top of the line guns not had fun because they are against a team of terminators that don't like to call hits?

IMO if you want to spend the money on something just spend it and find out the hard way if you like it or dont.

One thing I like by the OP was he stated what he wanted and what he currently used.

I remember some locals tell me when I got into the sport don't get that cansoft crap you wont like it, but I did get cansoft and still go back to that gun all the time and have a great time with it.

but to each their own

MasterSniper September 19th, 2010 16:21

L96 sniper rifle EST T'IL BON ?????
 
Salut,je joue au airsoft et ji acheter un A17-ris Mais je veu passer a de plus haute performence :cool:et jme demande si le L96 est un bon snipe durable et precis a long porté? Quelle marque est pas un clone fait par les chinois :banghead:? et quelle site je pourrait m'en proccurer un vrai L96 ? :wink:

Boyso September 19th, 2010 16:29

Lis donc le thread dans lequel tu viens de poster.

Mr Haezelnut September 19th, 2010 17:24

400 an hour? Lol. And no, i'm not laughing at you, it's just funny.
Shiftsup, you mentioned a ACM VSR-10 in canada for 200. I can afford that, but do you have any places i can go to/websites with a 'BUY' option?

R.I.T.Z September 19th, 2010 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Haezelnut (Post 1317968)
400 an hour? Lol. And no, i'm not laughing at you, it's just funny.
Shiftsup, you mentioned a ACM VSR-10 in canada for 200. I can afford that, but do you have any places i can go to/websites with a 'BUY' option?

not unless your verified
we can give you review, input, laugh at you, and the like, but we are not allowed by the rules of this site to tell you where to buy guns unless your verified. the closest we can go is telling you to check the classifieds or retailers

Mr Haezelnut September 19th, 2010 17:49

Ohhh.... Right. That makes sense. I'll see if i can do that tomorrow when the places open up. Thanks for the clarification.

SniperSam September 19th, 2010 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrapnel[Op-For] (Post 1317599)
Why are you even mentioning that you bought a gun and illegally smuggled it across the border?

I didnt. I just moved here from the states, I bought it, used it, and sold it there. I just threw in the pointer because of what he mentioned in his OP

shiftsup September 19th, 2010 18:52

Mr Hazelnut.

I can't tell you where you can buy or search for an acm vsr 10 in Canada.

You have to be av'd for that info on this forum and you'll have to prove you are 18+ to the sellers.

The ACM guns are like snowflakes. No two are the same. Some may last you 1000's of rounds before you'll have to fix them. Some might bust right away. Upgrading can be a bitch too since while they are TM compatible the tolerances are diiferent and precision made parts are made to fit the high quality TM guns.

Some of the upgrade parts don't fit the TM VSR 10 without some finesse.

Gunny_McSmith September 19th, 2010 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterSniper (Post 1317953)
Salut,je joue au airsoft et ji acheter un A17-ris Mais je veu passer a de plus haute performence :cool:et jme demande si le L96 est un bon snipe durable et precis a long porté? Quelle marque est pas un clone fait par les chinois :banghead:? et quelle site je pourrait m'en proccurer un vrai L96 ? :wink:

Que veux tu dire par VRAI?

Sais-tu au moins de quoi tu parles en disant :

"pas un clone fait par des chinois?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Haezelnut (Post 1317983)
Ohhh.... Right. That makes sense. I'll see if i can do that tomorrow when the places open up. Thanks for the clarification.

@Mr Haezelnut How old are you please?

And looks like you DID NOT understand what the ppl on this forum have been telling you....

You remind me of myself 2 years ago, I was underaged, and after playing some COD: Modern Warfare 1, all I wanted was, to buy a sniper rifle, and "headshot-pwn" people in the field.
I went through alot of complication to buy myself a sniper rifle, but finally got it, bought a scope after that, painted it, did some mods to id, then.......after plinking/shooting with it for few months, I hated it, sold it... and bought an AEG... And discovered why ASC members always recommend us to buy an AEG, and not a spring rifle... AEG has the SAME RANGE! and also has a HIGHER rate of fire!

Trust me, I knwo from personnal experience!

PS: This is airsoft, NOT a point-and-shoot video game, theres no such thing in this sport... The ammo we shoot is too light, wind will always deviate your bbs...lol

SniperSam September 19th, 2010 21:25

Thank you everyone for actually understanding my first post.
Look, sniping is for certain people, it takes a tolerance, and an enormous amount of patience. Ive gone through hours of "game play" and got 1 to zilch kills, the sniper role is so blown out of proportion in video games and the media. The primary role of a sniper on the battlefield is reconnaissance, secondary being to eliminate targets of interest if it is given to you in the mission briefing; When I snipe, it's in milsims to take out a high profile target, if it's a regular game, I am supporting my team mates or relaying enemy player information to my team. And when it gets right down to that shot, one shot is all it takes, you can't get frickin' double tap and be slamming out rounds if someone starts shooting at you. Remember the sniper motto:"One shot, one kill"...just sayin'

CDN_Stalker September 19th, 2010 21:36

I've gotten dozens of kills in built up urban areas during games using just my rifle. Have also gotten only a kill or two when playing outdoors in the woods, sometimes an easy dozen. Really all just depends on the way you use the system, the system being you, your decisions and your rifle. I've noticed the way I play the airsoft sniper role is very much the same as I do when playing video games, so I can pretty much prove that the two can be similar. Still, both have their places within each other, you can learn and improve from doing both.

Here's a pic of me rocking an urban type environment with my M24. My MP5 is up against the van, but for this day, I never even used it. Check out the fact my placement gives me a line of fire UNDER the van, worked great!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...0_416421_n.jpg

SniperSam September 19th, 2010 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 1318103)
I've gotten dozens of kills in built up urban areas during games using just my rifle. Have also gotten only a kill or two when playing outdoors in the woods, sometimes an easy dozen. Really all just depends on the way you use the system, the system being you, your decisions and your rifle. I've noticed the way I play the airsoft sniper role is very much the same as I do when playing video games, so I can pretty much prove that the two can be similar. Still, both have their places within each other, you can learn and improve from doing both.

Here's a pic of me rocking an urban type environment with my M24. My MP5 is up against the van, but for this day, I never even used it. Check out the fact my placement gives me a line of fire UNDER the van, worked great!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...0_416421_n.jpg

Exactly my point, it comes down to the rifle, the technique, the player; just going in there expecting to get easy kills is plain ignorance.

Mr Haezelnut September 19th, 2010 22:09

For the couple of people replying after i said 'Oh right..' I meant 'Oh right, it makes sense that you have to be av'd to be legally given locations (or websites) to buy guns. I'll get out to get av'd as soon as i can.

Gunny_McSmith September 19th, 2010 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 1318103)
I've gotten dozens of kills in built up urban areas during games using just my rifle. Have also gotten only a kill or two when playing outdoors in the woods, sometimes an easy dozen. Really all just depends on the way you use the system, the system being you, your decisions and your rifle. I've noticed the way I play the airsoft sniper role is very much the same as I do when playing video games, so I can pretty much prove that the two can be similar. Still, both have their places within each other, you can learn and improve from doing both.

Here's a pic of me rocking an urban type environment with my M24. My MP5 is up against the van, but for this day, I never even used it. Check out the fact my placement gives me a line of fire UNDER the van, worked great!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...0_416421_n.jpg


Dude, for someone that kills ppl with CHEWING GUM.... thats normal...lol

PS: Sniper rifles = higher fps then the field limit, and you'll need to be trusted by other players to play with it, since a bb flying at 500fps at close range hurts like a b****....

FOX_111 September 19th, 2010 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Haezelnut (Post 1318126)
For the couple of people replying after i said 'Oh right..' I meant 'Oh right, it makes sense that you have to be av'd to be legally given locations (or websites) to buy guns. I'll get out to get av'd as soon as i can.

Seriously, forget your idea. You don't have the money nor the knowledge yet to aquire such a device.

Reading the FAQs here would help shed some light on the mater for you.

CDN_Stalker September 19th, 2010 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith (Post 1318139)
Dude, for someone that kills ppl with CHEWING GUM.... thats normal...lol

PS: Sniper rifles = higher fps then the field limit, and you'll need to be trusted by other players to play with it, since a bb flying at 500fps at close range hurts like a b****....

True......

BTW, past two years my rifle has been shooting at 397fps with 0.20g BBs, that's roughly 300fps with the 0.36g Bastards I use. Food for thought, eh?

Gunny_McSmith September 19th, 2010 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 1318150)
True......

BTW, past two years my rifle has been shooting at 397fps with 0.20g BBs, that's roughly 300fps with the 0.36g Bastards I use. Food for thought, eh?

haha,:p

But problem is that most clone spring rifles sell because of the high stock fps..lol...

And the #1 upgrade that comes to mind for the usual "noob" is to get higher fps... :S

CDN_Stalker September 20th, 2010 07:49

No kidding, I've been trying to talk guys out of that for years (seeing as how I was a busy gun tech for about 4 years). Always was asked "What spring do I get to give me 400fps? I want more range."

For about 4 years I ran my M24 at around 500fps (w/.20g), never really hurt anyone (cuz I am smart), but since I downgraded I find my consistancy is much better and the range is still about the same. BBs with hop up tend to stay more stable at lower velocities since they don't spin as fast as higher velocity gives.

SniperSam September 20th, 2010 07:51

Agreed, my VSR never went above 425 FPS, it was accurate, it got the job done, and I enjoyed using it.


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