Fielding a pistol as primary
 

I've been told by a friend that fielding a pistol as a primary is nothing weird in capable hands. I told him its a load of bullcrap but am now reconsidering my opinion. do you think a GBB pistol is skirmishable in an outdoors game as a primary weapon?

There are people who find 100' to be perfectly acceptable pistol range.

depends on your play style, if you are a camper and tend to hang back and take shots you might become frustrated by the lack of range, but if you are the type to push up then you can be just as competitive as a rifleman

I think you will get frustrated fast with a pistol only

outdoor CQB ok thats fine but in a woodland setting you might find yourself dead and waiting more then shooting at someone

Thanks MO anyway

ive used my pistol as primary but i had to run all over the place, if your agressive you can use a pistol but i wouls sooner use a smaller version of an m4.

Honestly, I think it depends on a few factors. Your play style, your pistol, what you shoot through it, and how good you are.

I'll tell you this. I used to have a TM Mk23, and shooting 28's it was more accurate than my G36. With the supressor, it was also a lot more quiet.

Pistols give you 100% mobility points ammo and range are your only constrictions really, there are some pistols that have that ridiculous range, but you have to learn to take the fight too your opposition get in real close. There's a player who played at defcon, not gona mention any names but he shot wings off flies with a pistol that's all he needed, but than again he knew when to move and when not to.

I love running a pistol as a primary outdoors (such as getting a gun hit, or having my MP5 goes down mechanically). When I run my sniper rifle and leave my MP5 at base, my pistol is my primary.

Use heavy BBs and learn to shoot well (like out to 100ft and farther), then when guys hear you using a GBB they will likely assume you are an easy target and get careless. You can also shoot a pistol from cover much easier than with an AEG, largely because you don't have to expose as much of your body to get rounds off (only need your hand and one eye exposed as a minimum, with an AEG you expose your arm and more of your head). GBBs also have the benefit of instantly firing the shot after trigger pull, where an AEG tends to wind up before that first round leaves the barrel.

Running pistols only is actually a lot of fun and challenging. If your a cautious player, it may not be for you as you have to be quite aggressive. In a wooded area with lots of cover, its very possible.

In general, a pistol is not a good primary for infantry role. You need to be able to put out a large volume of fire and be mobile.

If you run 5-10 pistol mags and you pistol is well tuned, you could be able to follow the standard, but you are on a dissaventage.

When I'm sniping and I switch back to my pistol, It's because I did something wrong somewhere and I feel naked with a pistol vs full auto AEGs.

Even if my MK23 is silent and precise with 0.30g bbs, If I miss and I'm seen, I don't have the firepower to match my opponent.

Quoted for truth.

I agree with and support this statement fully.

You shouldn't see things that way, you have to learn that your pistol is your primary. Follow my mantra, when doing the sniper role, what weapon do you use to return fire when you suddenly walk into an ambush. The correct answer is your pistol, it's your primary and your rifle is only a special purpose (when you can get away with using it) weapon. You rock the MK23 NBB, so therefore it is a sub-extension of your rifle. Me, my preferred gun is the G19, too bad both of mine are down so have to settle for my MK23 and C11, but I never feel outgunned by AEGs, as long as I have and use cover properly. GBBs often will outrun AEGs if you learn to use them right, and apply that confidence when things go wrong.

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I wouldn't recommend going with a pistol as your primary unless you are very familiar with the area. I have to agree with pipefitter316, use a smaller version of an m4.

If your an experienced player with considerable patience and the ability to creep through bush effectively then I say absolutely any airsoft weapon of good quality is sufficient.

A good quality pistol with heavy weight ammo will fire a good distance with fairly good accuracy.

A wise man once said, upgrade the player not the weapon. Thus if you practice and take your time with it, you can be effective with anything. I have in my time fielded everything from spring pistols, gbb pistols, m11, spring shotguns, to stock tm aegs and heavily upgraded aeg's. and frankly I was perfectly capable of getting enjoyment and playing "effectively".


Thus said, don't expect to bunker down with one, your going to need to remain mobile and unseen, which will depend on the chosen field and your abilities.


Cheers.

We work on 2 different SOP, you and I.

When I'm falling in an ambush as a sniper, I GTFO, sometime not even returning fire, as my priority is getting to safety to regroup and take apripriate action. I won't do an Australian retreat with my pistol. :D

But I understand your SOP and it's a valid one.

As do I, but you understand my reasoning (as I press on others) why a sniper rifle should never be considered a primary. Anything but should be the primary. If I get into a situation where I get ambushed, yes I'll GTFO too, but will return fire as needed, and las thing anyone wants to do is fire back with a high powered single shot weapon without any useful fast sights. Hence my saying no sniper rifle should be considered a primary regardless of role.

I am not in the best of shape, so humping a full size gun through the bush is more challenging than I would like. For that reason, if I find myself needing to go 'hunting', I will go with pistol only. It allows me to be more manuverable and quicker than I would be otherwise. I have a high quality GBB that shoots 350+ with .2's. This year I will be running it with .3's for extra accuracy. I normally carry around one hundred rounds for it, so I don't tend to run out in a regular length skirmish. SMG's are a different matter: there, I carry around three hundred rounds. More than that and the weight of the mags becomes quite onerous (at least for an old guy with a heart condition! ;) )

My pistol shoots better and more reliably than my AEG. I also don't have to dick around with batteries.

My entire team is currently phasing out all electronic guns. Going GBBP and GBBR all the way.

I haven't used my pistol yet as a primary but i have used my mp5k in a field game and i surprisingly got a lot of kills. It was actually a fun experience for me and i gained valuable experience that you have to adapt to your weapon in order to use it properly. The only problem is see with a pistol is that you have limited ammo and you have to get pretty close in order to get some clean hits. It shouldn't matter what people say as long as its fun.

:rolleyes: I see you have been around here for a while, You should stick around and give more advice.


On a number of occasions I have gotten board with using whatever AEG I was using at the time, so I would set that down and run around using the TM NBB SOCOM with the silencer with a few mags running on green gas.
That pistol is just as capable as most any AEG and is twice as satisfying to get kills with.
As I have said for many years; It's the man, not the machine.

What about fielding a rubber knife as a primary ?
how bout we try that

now Thats a challenge !

For the entire day, haven't seen that done yet.
But I have seen a guy field two rubber knives as his primary for a skirmish :)

I do believe he managed stay alive throughout the whole thing, and killed a good chunk of the opposing team.

LOL!

Now that's what I call skills. lol

ooohh I know that feeling. I fielded my P90 and MP7 GBB at TTAC3 last Friday. My P90 ran through 2 batteries like nothing and I only brought 1 mag with my MP7 so I figured "Frack it, went pistols the rest of the game".

Mind you because its entirely CQB, the pistol rule. When running pistols only in a large outdoor venue, you really have to pick your fights or be like a ninja.

My rubber knife is my primary, my other rubber knife is my secondary. I carry a pistol as a tertiary and another rubber knife as a backup.

I actually just made a switch over to a pair of pistols as my primaries outdoors... I went with a pair of TM hardkick DE's ... alot of the other players and I made fun comments back and forth in the staging area, as they and alot of people beleive them to be very excessive for a pistol. Now personally if all it ever saw was the ground and was dead weight against my leg or vest I would agree. but geee when they start clacking away they sure run fast! :D

that being said.. having a good reliable AEG waiting just in case of cold/failure/frustration is paramount too

You sure you are not just getting flashbacks of Rambo II?

I wonder, is throwing the knives illegal? That would make the game very interesting.

If someone is within a reasonable distance...say 10 feet...you could underhand toss your rubber knife...although I find it more satisfying to close the gap and go for the gold.

So far I only have a co2 NBB pistol, so that IS my primary :D

Where do you get rubber knives?

google has them I think.

When my leg heals up, I plan on feilding my M1911 as a primary for a few games, I love pistols! Personally If you can get your hands on a great pistol you can equal the range of an AEG provided you're on a nice, warm day. Just you dont have the 'Accuracy through volume' an AEG will offer.

Unless you pull that trigger like a pianist on meth.

I hand off my rifle to my buddy and go pistol primary... but Im a game nerd and my favourite games are MGS and Splintercell still fun though, easier to take cover and shoot around corners etc...

Pistol Primary

A big yes for me!

TM Hicapa with a 7inch PDI 6.01mm Barrel you cannot go wrong. It out ranges my MP5 as long as I use 0.28 or 0.30s with max hop-up. Only problem is I cannot use it in Winter/Fall outdoor games, but there aren't much outdoor games in winter/fall anyway since that is the Indoor CQB game season.

Pistol in CQB
You are the king if you can aim properly and move fast. Maneuverability and the ease of handling give you a big advantage going to and coming out of cover to fire shots.

I regret one time letting Pusangani borrow my TM Hicapa cause every time I ran up he always got me and Nooblord at Splatters, damn PUS! (But then again hes in CAPS)

Pistol in Outdoor
The effectiveness really depends on the weather. Best used during a dry warm Spring/Summer day. If its below 10 degrees celsius your pistol may not be able to shoot much at all. If its rainy even if the weather is warm also ruins the effectiveness. as well. Your best bet is having a warm clear sunny day