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Percuvius April 28th, 2010 12:50

Are these goggles a good deal?
 
I don't know too much about goggles and I'm none too happy that I have to wear them instead of ballistics, but would these goggles be suitable? I trust I can remove the hideous motocross contraption from the frame?

http://www.paintball-online.com/shop..._GGJSFF_BLK_50

The Saint April 28th, 2010 12:52

Yes and yes. Spectre features removable mask portion and is one of the most popular goggle systems for airsoft.

R.I.T.Z April 28th, 2010 12:53

Paintball goggles are usually recommended by fields because they are ANSI rated and tested. the price is good, but consider shipping and handling and taxes. you'd probably be better off going to a walmart or paint ball field and picking up a pair.

GBear April 28th, 2010 12:57

Lol, I just use a cheap pair of $25 goggles I bought from a local paintball shop. The lowest end goggles they have. It was funny because I went in there with the intention to buy the highest end they have but they were all out. It doesn't really matter too much.

horto April 28th, 2010 13:07

It's a good deal but shipping appears to be $50.:smack:

Sakura April 28th, 2010 13:45

I just picked up these

They were only 40$ and are Airsoft approved. I went with these because they are low profile and wont conflict with a helmet or hat. covers the ears and mouth and the holes are very small allowing breathing but no BB's to sneak in.

Percuvius April 28th, 2010 13:55

Yeah screw them and their $50 shipping, for less than that I could walk into a store locally and buy and even better pair of JT goggles.

What about these Crappy Tire ones for Panther field? They say approved for paintball

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

m102404 April 28th, 2010 13:57

They're your eyes. Protect them as you see fit.

It's also up to you with regards to:
- comfort
- air flow/venting
- fit/form when actually trying to sight down a rifle

Rugger_can April 28th, 2010 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Percuvius (Post 1222060)
Yeah screw them and their $50 shipping, for less than that I could walk into a store locally and buy and even better pair of JT goggles.

What about these Crappy Tire ones for Panther field? They say approved for paintball

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

They a JT paintball mask but formed slightly differently. They cover the ears comfortably with soft rubber and don't fog noticably. Also the centerline of your face is covered but your breathing and comfort is not effected Also the face guard is slightly more rigid then most JT Masks Im familiar with. They meet the requirements for paintball fields and are ANSI Z87+ rated for high speed impact resistance.

Think of them as "pre"cut paintball masks.

juicy April 28th, 2010 14:00

Percuvius, dude - buy a decent set of paintball goggles. Most guys rock the JT Spectra series because you can remove the face mask and ear protection portions. The thermal lenses plus non fog wipes/sprays looks to be the best that there is out there in terms of not fogging. Trust me, fogging up sucks.

Check out paintballgear.ca or tacticalpaintball.ca - they have a store front at Boundary and E 1st, as well as being mostly online.

Percuvius April 28th, 2010 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugger_can (Post 1222071)
They a JT paintball mask but formed slightly differently. They cover the ears comfortably with soft rubber and don't fog noticably. Also the centerline of your face is covered but your breathing and comfort is not effected Also the face guard is slightly more rigid then most JT Masks Im familiar with. They meet the requirements for paintball fields and are ANSI Z87+ rated for high speed impact resistance.

Think of them as "pre"cut paintball masks.

You must have had a pair of these!

Percuvius April 28th, 2010 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by juicy (Post 1222073)
Percuvius, dude - buy a decent set of paintball goggles. Most guys rock the JT Spectra series because you can remove the face mask and ear protection portions. The thermal lenses plus non fog wipes/sprays looks to be the best that there is out there in terms of not fogging. Trust me, fogging up sucks.

Check out paintballgear.ca or tacticalpaintball.ca - they have a store front at Boundary and E 1st, as well as being mostly online.


I was looking at them earlier. I was just being lazy and trying to find something closer, lol. I know all about fogging from my days of skiing, that's why I so hate to have to use goggles instead of a sexy pair of ballistics. I guess I'm making the drive to Boundary Rd this weekend.

Thanks guys appreciate it.

Sakura April 28th, 2010 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Percuvius (Post 1222083)
You must have had a pair of these!

no I do and I'm his fiancé that's why I suggested them.

Percuvius April 28th, 2010 15:25

http://www.paintballgear.ca/product/...es_-_Camo.html

I just went ahead and ordered this pair, the shipping to me is only $5.20 and will take 1 day, so that's even cheaper than me driving across town. Now I'm only boots and gloves away from playing!

Thanks for your help everyone.

Gunny_McSmith April 28th, 2010 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by adayinspring (Post 1222053)
I just picked up these

They were only 40$ and are Airsoft approved. I went with these because they are low profile and wont conflict with a helmet or hat. covers the ears and mouth and the holes are very small allowing breathing but no BB's to sneak in.

NOOOOO DO NOT GET THE GAYNADIAN TIRE ''Airsoft Approved'' googles....

few months ago, someone on ASC bought them, and tested if they were really ''airsoft approved'', and with a 450fps gun (using .20g bbs) the shots went right throught the goggles....

so....THEY ARE NOT AIRSOFT APPROVED!! and YOU COULD LOOSE AN EYE.....if you play with them....

Rugger_can April 28th, 2010 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith (Post 1222236)
NOOOOO DO NOT GET THE GAYNADIAN TIRE ''Airsoft Approved'' googles....

few months ago, someone on ASC bought them, and tested if they were really ''airsoft approved'', and with a 450fps gun (using .20g bbs) the shots went right throught the goggles....

so....THEY ARE NOT AIRSOFT APPROVED!! and YOU COULD LOOSE AN EYE.....if you play with them....

Ok, so your saying that all JT's Brand Paintball goggles are not sufficient eye protection for airsoft then? Because that's what they are.

And who is this "someone"? where is this thread? your making very serious claims.

krap101 April 28th, 2010 18:15

Pick up some vforce shields.. if you can find it.

Gunny_McSmith April 28th, 2010 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugger_can (Post 1222294)
Ok, so your saying that all JT's Brand Paintball goggles are not sufficient eye protection for airsoft then? Because that's what they are.

And who is this "someone"? where is this thread? your making very serious claims.

lol... please read my quote....

Someone mentioned these googles from Canadian tire

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

and I was talking about those, and not the JT Spectra goggles....

here's the link to the Review about those "airsoft approved" goggles (from Yuhaoyang)

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=84868

Rugger_can April 28th, 2010 18:32

Turns out your right.. Checked the packaging. When I asked my wife to buy Paintball goggles for herself she checked online and liked the look of them. Canadian tire Claimed they where paintball approved (on their website). Im going to go down there and cause a shitstorm for misrepresenting their damn products and pick her up a new set of JT's from a local paintball shop.

Thanks for the heads up.. I guess I should have gone with her to pick them up and or checked the ACTUAL packaging after she got them home. My mistake for trusting JT's to make a qualitiy product. Thanks for the update.

Percuvius April 28th, 2010 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith (Post 1222303)
lol... please read my quote....

Someone mentioned these googles from Canadian tire

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

and I was talking about those, and not the JT Spectra goggles....

here's the link to the Review about those "airsoft approved" goggles (from Yuhaoyang)

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=84868

Glad I side stepped those cheapies! I lost my regular driving sunglasses so I just ordered these ANSI Z87.1-2003 sunglasses
http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/11641.html
This site wants $50 to ship and the cheapest shipping to Canada from any site was $28. So I jumped on ebay and found them for $28 total including shipping :D

valpas April 28th, 2010 20:51

I just get safety glasses from my work place.

Rooflez April 28th, 2010 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by valpas (Post 1222406)
I just get safety glasses from my work place.

That's stealing.

I like it.

Munaro April 28th, 2010 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Percuvius (Post 1222060)
Yeah screw them and their $50 shipping, for less than that I could walk into a store locally and buy and even better pair of JT goggles.

What about these Crappy Tire ones for Panther field? They say approved for paintball

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

these are not paintball approved, if your going to play on panther you need paintball goggles with a full seal around your eyes.

VooDooPeteK April 29th, 2010 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by valpas (Post 1222406)
I just get safety glasses from my work place.

the dollar store sells them to no? :confused:

Rooster April 29th, 2010 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by valpas (Post 1222406)
I just get safety glasses from my work place.

I do the same, I usually have at least 10 pairs scattered around my car/truck/lunchcan.. Free ANSI certified glasses. :tup:

Percuvius April 29th, 2010 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munaro (Post 1222508)
these are not paintball approved, if your going to play on panther you need paintball goggles with a full seal around your eyes.

Did you see that Crappy Tire says in the description "approved for paintball" ? Someone should ring their necks before someone loses an eye.

I bought the JT Flex 8 goggles.

Rugger_can April 30th, 2010 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Percuvius (Post 1223322)
Did you see that Crappy Tire says in the description "approved for paintball" ? Someone should ring their necks before someone loses an eye.

I bought the JT Flex 8 goggles.

I just did today, when I pointed out that they are liable when falsifying safty ratings when advertising a product they apologized and said they would contact those responsible for the website to correct the problem. I bet money though they won't fix it.

Paintball goggles requires a minimum of ANSI 87.1+ rating to qualify for the "paintball" approved. I have contacted JT's demanding the safety specifications for these goggles, but they appear to have discontinued the line.

Long and the short of it. Don't buy them. They fit great and are comfortable, but they are no safer then ski goggles.

Infact never buy goggles that do not implicitly say ANSI 87.1 or 87.1 or 87.1+ ect. on the actual goggle surface. Even goggles that claim to be "milspec" is bullshit, as there is no consumer reporting required for that claim. its like "lite" products, there is no requirement to quantify them. I would rather wear crosman goggles that have the appropriate ANSI rating then trust 200 dollar "milspec" goggles that have no ANSI certification, I mean if your charging 200 bucks for goggles why not spring for the 80 dollars US to have them tested by ANSI so you can get them certified.. because they probably would not pass the testing.

Munaro April 30th, 2010 03:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Percuvius (Post 1223322)
Did you see that Crappy Tire says in the description "approved for paintball" ? Someone should ring their necks before someone loses an eye.

I bought the JT Flex 8 goggles.

I don't care what crappy tire said on there site, those are not paintball approved. as I believe rugger stated?

Percuvius April 30th, 2010 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munaro (Post 1223455)
I don't care what crappy tire said on there site, those are not paintball approved. as I believe rugger stated?

If you follow the thread from the beginning....

BobbyDangerous April 30th, 2010 13:06

I have a pair and i find them tight. I took the goggles out and kept them on my ibh helmet to stretch them out.. I also found that they were a really thick profile. I have ESS goggles as well so i'll prob use those more but i'll still use these ones too when they're needed..

SidVicious April 30th, 2010 13:35

Would those meet the safety standards for airsoft ?

http://www.pyramexsafety.com/files/i...s/GB1830ST.jpg

Pyramex GB1830ST

Quote:

- Exceeds the ANSI Z87.1-2003 High Velocity Impact Standards.
- CAN/CSA Z94.3-07
- CE EN166 Certified

Rugger_can April 30th, 2010 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by SidVicious (Post 1223677)
Would those meet the safety standards for airsoft ?

http://www.pyramexsafety.com/files/i...s/GB1830ST.jpg

Pyramex GB1830ST

should be fine. Same safety ratings as peltors.

Percuvius May 3rd, 2010 18:15

Here are the JT goggles I ordered, video in two parts
YouTube- JT Flex 8 Unboxing 1of2.AVI
YouTube- JT Flex 8 Unboxing 2of2.AVI

seasonnie May 4th, 2010 02:05

are there goggles a good deal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SidVicious (Post 1223677)
Would those meet the safety standards for airsoft ?

http://www.pyramexsafety.com/files/i...s/GB1830ST.jpg

Pyramex GB1830ST

The goggles is very nice, but i found most of the airsoft goggle is another model, like
http://www.airsplat.com/Items/AC-APP-WEL-MASK.htm
http://www.sourcingmap.com/airsoft-f...en-p-2336.html

I like the above goggles :popcorn:

Rugger_can May 4th, 2010 02:31

I picked up a set of two pairs of ESS ICE glasses from opticsplanet

http://images.solidcactus.com/safety...a/essice-b.jpg

they are on sale at the moment so I figured why not. They should serve me well for their intended application.

I also picked up a pair of Bolle T800's for the missus as she absolutely hated the full face, could not breath comfortably.

Percuvius May 4th, 2010 11:28

Another benefit of dual pane non-fog goggles is that you get double the eye protection because the BB would have to penetrate two lenses instead of one.

Drake May 4th, 2010 11:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith (Post 1222236)
NOOOOO DO NOT GET THE GAYNADIAN TIRE ''Airsoft Approved'' googles....

few months ago, someone on ASC bought them, and tested if they were really ''airsoft approved'', and with a 450fps gun (using .20g bbs) the shots went right throught the goggles....

so....THEY ARE NOT AIRSOFT APPROVED!! and YOU COULD LOOSE AN EYE.....if you play with them....


First of all, re-read your link: the shot (400 fps gun, .28g BB, from 1 ft) cracked the lens, it didn't "go right through the goggles."

That's a pretty hard hit at 1 ft distance and arguably the goggles did what they were supposed to (stop the BB, despite not surviving themselves) considering they're shitty paintball goggles.

Paintballs aren't hard projectiles, they have a greater surface area and quickly collapse on impact. PB goggles have become commonplace because so many fields (PB) require them for their insurance, but they're far from being optimal for airsoft.

There's a reason most experienced players will, given the choice, pick tac goggles over pb goggles; it's not just the "look cool" factor. I know my eyewear is rated to stop a .22LR @ 1000fps. I know it won't crack when hit with a heavy BB, even from an upgraded 500 fps sniper rifle.

If you want "airsoft approved" go with tactical goggles with real ratings.

Rugger_can May 4th, 2010 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1226375)
First of all, re-read your link: the shot (400 fps gun, .28g BB, from 1 ft) cracked the lens, it didn't "go right through the goggles."

That's a pretty hard hit at 1 ft distance and arguably the goggles did what they were supposed to (stop the BB, despite not surviving themselves) considering they're shitty paintball goggles.

Paintballs aren't hard projectiles, they have a greater surface area and quickly collapse on impact. PB goggles have become commonplace because so many fields (PB) require them for their insurance, but they're far from being optimal for airsoft.

There's a reason most experienced players will, given the choice, pick tac goggles over pb goggles; it's not just the "look cool" factor. I know my eyewear is rated to stop a .22LR @ 1000fps. I know it won't crack when hit with a heavy BB, even from an upgraded 500 fps sniper rifle.

If you want "airsoft approved" go with tactical goggles with real ratings.

Wisdom heard is often ignored, Wisdom earned is often heard.

Your completely right Drake, the problem is that people will buy without checking (heck my wife is guilty of this, and thus by extension myself). And will end up with things like Dust wind and sand goggles or even worse Chinese knock offs with zero safety ratings.

If you shop around and take your time you will find something useable.


As for the JT's Airsoft goggles? Well Jt's confirmed that they have no safety rating what so ever.

SidVicious May 20th, 2010 04:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasonnie (Post 1226207)
The goggles is very nice, but i found most of the airsoft goggle is another model, like
http://www.airsplat.com/Items/AC-APP-WEL-MASK.htm
http://www.sourcingmap.com/airsoft-f...en-p-2336.html

I like the above goggles :popcorn:

No ballistic rating on the first, second one is a mesh and engrish candidate:

Quote:

* Brand new & high quality face guard for gun shot game!!!
* Adopt advanced flexible plastic made from , the mesh is made from hard steel material
* Comfortable fit and safety for your head (Must act upon operation manual)
* Bullet proof design for survival game
* Abide by rules to play HAPPILY!!!
* SIZE: W8" X H7 3/4"
* Adjust the strap to fasten your head steady
* Weight: 140g
They're both safer'ish than wearing no eye protection at all but I'd rather err on the safe side, a full face mask is a very good idea for CQB but a PITA outdoor, especially if it is "Adopt advanced flexible plastic made from".

I don't mind welts on my face (I deserved them) but a BB going straight through a Happy Dragon Industries "hard steel material" shrapnel generating mess mask would ruin my eyesight for life even if it claims to provide "bullet proof design for survival game" and allows me to "abide by rules to play HAPPILY!!!"

I'll stick to my pyramex shop goggles.

juicy May 20th, 2010 05:05

Nice necro. Also, the OP will likely be playing at a paintball field (with me - at least, he'd better be!). Pretty sure he got this figured out a while ago, too. Read post #33 again if you don't believe me.

SidVicious May 20th, 2010 12:21

Juicy, two weeks between posts isn't anywhere close to a necro, I was replying to seasonnie, who responded to my previous post, warning him against potentially dangerous eye protection.

I'll throw a "Read post #34" right back at you sir.

voorhees -FWA- May 20th, 2010 14:05

Food for thought... How much are your eyes worth? My ESS cost $80; a small price to pay to be able to see.


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