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bean April 23rd, 2010 09:01

Blue Guns
 
Hey guys I am looking for a place in Canada to buy Blue Guns. I want a railed m4 with a flat top. I also am looking for a pistol with a rail preferably a sig. This is for photography purposes for my website.

13Fido13 April 23rd, 2010 09:17

Local gun shops?

Dirty Deeds April 23rd, 2010 10:11

Blue guns, as in real guns? Or is BLUE a manufacturer? Or are you looking for someone to allow you to use their real guns for your photo shoot?

If you're looking for deals on real guns check out CGN and their Equipment Exchange forum. You will need a valid restricted PAL to buy the guns you listed.

Darklen April 23rd, 2010 10:19

Wow, once again, the misinformation machine winds up. Blue guns are made of solid urethane foam and are blue in color (hence the term "Blue Guns") and are typically used for safe training, holster molding, and product demonstrations for slings and the like. they are totally nonfuntional.

Bean, go here BlueGuns and give them a call to see who their distributor in Canada is, if they have one.

Brian McIlmoyle April 23rd, 2010 10:22

One shot tactical sometimes has some ... e-mail them and see

Jimski April 23rd, 2010 10:31

http://www.chiefsupply.com/Law_Enfor...ment/Blue_Guns

apparently they ship to canada
I can't tell if it's LE only or not :(

fumoffu April 23rd, 2010 10:38

There is a lot stores that sell the training gun. There been red gun (ASP), yellow gun, black gun and even blue gun. I use these for training purposes at work

try these sites
http://www.setcan.com/index.html
http://www.mdcharlton.ca/

bean April 23rd, 2010 12:42

Thank you for the links I will check them out later tonight. There are several reasons I want blue guns. The first being when i photograph an item for review you dont spend your time staring at the weapon only the accesory. The other is due to living on base my photography setup is 500km away from where I store my guns. Its easier to travel to the guns with a part then my whole setup.

Schlyder April 23rd, 2010 13:08

Blue Man Group :P

Hades April 23rd, 2010 13:11

Also look into R.Nicholls. I know they carry them though i'm not sure if you need to show proof of LE/MIL employment to buy them.

fumoffu April 23rd, 2010 13:15

what kind of training gun are you looking for?

bean April 23rd, 2010 13:32

Its not even for training. I just need a brightly colored AR with a flatop and rails. I doubt they exist but if it had a stock tube to attach other stocks to it it would be great. Its just for photographing parts I am reviewing like a sight or flashlight. I am also looking for a railed pistol like a sig to showcase pistol lights or lasers. Basically the same idea as a mannequin does for clothes.

m102404 April 23rd, 2010 13:39

LOL...this must be an extremely hard concept to grasp...

http://www.alternateforce.net/bluegun-m4.html

http://www.dutygear.ca (BC)

RNicolls (but call them...they'll likely need to order it in)

Or just paint an airsoft rifle blue

fumoffu April 23rd, 2010 13:51

here we go

http://www.blueguns.com/images/catalog08r.pdf
go to page 8 and 9

sweet they even have a blue p90.

they offer the flat top with 20 mm rail for attachment but the stock no clue.

Also Sig blue gun usually have rails

bean April 23rd, 2010 14:14

Hmm after my latest foray with shipping into Canada I wonder if a blue gun is ok?

theshaneler April 23rd, 2010 14:19

i know a local tactical store here in Winnipeg had issues importing their blue display pistols. I don't remember how long customs held them for but it was a while

if you can find them in Canada, i suggest you jump on that ;)

fumoffu April 23rd, 2010 14:36

yeah no clue about training guns but should not be a problem.

I need to take a look into it since I need some in the future.

Well contact MD Charlton sales@mdcharlton.ca and see what they have in stock. They might do custom order since I know ASP have the m4 with rail and sliding stock. Cost around 110-140 bucks.

Good store but I only deal with them on the western part of Canada but shouldn't be a problem.

Thenooblord April 23rd, 2010 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by fumoffu (Post 1218610)
yeah no clue about training guns but should not be a problem.

I need to take a look into it since I need some in the future.

Well contact MD Charlton sales@mdcharlton.ca and see what they have in stock. They might do custom order since I know ASP have the m4 with rail and sliding stock. Cost around 110-140 bucks.

Good store but I only deal with them on the western part of Canada but shouldn't be a problem.

sorry totally unrelated but I do believe your account name wins the internet

Conker April 23rd, 2010 14:52

Yes, blueguns are legal to import, bus as for clearsoft, some retarded/overzealous CBSA agent might not allow them in.

Usually, they do not have any working part at all, IE if it has a retractable stock, it will be molded in extended or retracted position... not adjustable by the end user (it also means that you can't install, say a Crane on a gun which comes with a LE, you'll have to buy a new bluegun). Same thing for mags, they are molded in and you can't remove them. You can't change the handguard or pistol grip. Etc... They have absolutely no "working" part at all.

For your purpose, I'd highly suggest getting this (though it's now out of stock) and painting it blue:
http://www.businessvision.net/edge/M...&CategoryID=72
That's an early gen JG M4A1, so if you want to change the stock, it will be easy. You'll also be able to install a RIS if you need it to display a taclight or grip in your pics, or whatever else you could need.

Scott_911 June 12th, 2013 15:52

"Blue Guns" training weapons are illegal in Canada unless you are a business licensed to train law enforcement officers & security...

I was trained in disarming people with firearms, using "blue gun" training weapons, and recently attempted to order one to practice on my own, I was informed by the RCMP that they are illegal...

Scott_911 June 12th, 2013 15:56

I am planning to take this matter up with my Member of Parliament as there are toy guns that shoot BBs that look more like real guns that are legally sold in Canada...

I can let you know what they say, if you wish...

Danke June 12th, 2013 16:02

Hopefully your MP will send you this link. http://www.dstactical.com/index.php?cPath=32_338

Brian McIlmoyle June 12th, 2013 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott_911 (Post 1805450)
"Blue Guns" training weapons are illegal in Canada unless you are a business licensed to train law enforcement officers & security...

I was trained in disarming people with firearms, using "blue gun" training weapons, and recently attempted to order one to practice on my own, I was informed by the RCMP that they are illegal...

Would not be the first time that the RCMP was wrong..

they are imitation firearms and 100% legal to own buy and sell.

and freely available at several Canadian retailers

Armyissue June 12th, 2013 17:09

There's a good chance that a lot of things are not a good Idea for Scott_911
Like joining a Airsoft Forum and Necro a 3 year dormant thread that's letting us know he's writing his MP?!

Spartan_Red June 12th, 2013 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armyissue (Post 1805490)
There's a good chance that a lot of things are not a good Idea for Scott_911
Like joining a Airsoft Forum and Necro a 3 year dormant thread that's letting us know he's writing his MP?!

+1, and I'd be pissed if some random dude was running round an event attempting to disarm me and my buddies.

An mp is not going to know anything about firearm related law. The mp will call your local police department. The local police department will tell you it's fine as long as you don't brandish or hold it out as a weapon. It is not a weapon unless you pistol whip someone with it (blunt force). It's not capable of firing and there is no moving parts. That doesn't change whatever colour it may be. Although I would not recommend practicing holstering and unholstering in public. You would look ridiculous.


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