MP5 question
 

So after 5 years of using M4's I've decided to look into getting an mp5 and setting up a lighter rig for indoor/cqb.

I know next to nothing about mp5 manufacturers so I'm looking for info from enlightened individuals on the subject.

Couple things I am looking for:
prefer full metal
pros/cons between aeg and gbb (internal issues, not 'aeg uses batteries and gbb's use gas')
brands to stay away from

Price is not a problem.

if money is not a deciding factor TM and metal parts

Look at the Classic Army mp5 line up. CA's have full metal bodies.

What do you want in an MP5 there is many versions:
Full Stock/Sliding Stock/Folding Stock?
Includes Battery?
Rail and or Scope Mount?
Any Brand Name Preferences?
I'll give you the best 3 according after i go for Ice cream (:

CA
TM
ICS
G&G
Systema
ECHO1

Can also use the MP5 outdoors too to great effect. I've only ever owned two AEGs, and both are TM MP5s. And I rarely play indoors (lack of areas within a few hours drive).

I think I'm looking for an mp5 with a RAS and a sliding stock. Are there any brands that are Lipo ready? (I've been spoiled by kwa lol)

CDN_Stalker: any notable issues that you have had with your mp5's?

The new ICS full metal models from Mach1Airsoft is almost as fun as finding a PTW on the ground while winning the lottery while firing nuclear tomahawk missiles at your worst enemies.

Try to get an MP5K, they use the V3 mechbox and are just in general much cooler IMHO.

Of course I'm an MP5 hater, so take that with some salt.

-Grant

ICS MP5 A5:
Reinforced Gearbox: Version 2
Hop-Up: Yes
Velocity: 330FPS
Firing Rate: 690 BB's Per min
Length: 500mm
Extend:640mm
Barrel Length: 230 mm
Motor : ICS Turbo 3000
Weight: 2000g
Max.range: 100 Feet
Stock: Retractable Sliding Type
Metal Parts:All metal excluding receiver? (it says all metal series but also say conforms to Canadian standards so i assume smoked or clear receiver)
http://www.mach1airsoft.com/web/catalog.php?cat=22

G&G GMP5 SD6
Reinforced Gearbox: Verison 2
Hop-Up: Yes
Velocity: 360FPS (with .20g)
Firing Rate: 1000 BB's Per Min
Length: 650mm
Barrel Length: 233 mm
Motor: G&G Type Unknown 25000 RPM
Weight: 2480g
Max.range: 100 Feet
Stock: Retractable Sliding Type
Metal Parts:Threaded muzzle, silencer, front/rear sights, trigger, fire selector, ejection port cover, magazine, front/rear sling mount, low profile scope mount, cocking handle, etc (Clear Receiver)
http://www.007airsoft.com/products/htm/aeg-gg-hk.htm

TM MP5 SD6
Reinforced Gearbox: Version 2
Hop-Up: Yes
Velocity: 265FPS
Firing Rate: 850 BB's Per Min
Length: 965mm
Barrel Length: 229mm
Motor: EG700 High Touque
Weight: 1960g
Max.Range:N/A
Stock:Retractable Sliding Type
Metal Parts: Not a whole lot of Metal Parts but 100's of compatible metal parts for TM Mp5s
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/tokyo-mar...rsoft-aeg.html

ICS mp5's are the best... no offense CA's crap internals. yes the body is great but the internals are crap, i dont know why they call it sportline... G&G's are good too, but bad air seal. Full metal ICS are the best, you should wait for the new MX5 that's coming out, with 3 round burst... I have two of ICS mp5's and had them for a while... never broke.. :D

The CA's I've seen so far have had good internals, i think CA internals have improved a lot over the ones from a few years back which i believe most people draw their conclusions about them from. My G&G and my buddy's haven't had the air seal problem and mines an MP5, most likely a couple of people probably had a problem with it so now people assume all G&G guns have poor air seal.

[quote=Ripperman79;1202499]ICS MP5 A5:
Metal Parts:All metal excluding receiver? (it says all metal series but also say conforms to Canadian standards so i assume smoked or clear receiver[quote]

Mach1 is a retailer of the Canadian legal full (evil) black/metal. This is all done with full RCMP and CBSA approval.

Get with the times;)

Sorry didn't know i really didn't look that much into it but thats fir clearing that up:D

Yeah ICS MP5s are great and it comes with a metal body...but as far as that new 3 round burst MP5 goes I'd hold back because i could see some flaws with it when it's first released, i hope i helped

Suggest to use midcaps ISO of hicaps. Due to the design of the mag, max wound will give approx 20+ rds.

Mine went through lots of wear and tear, so is normal for any MP5 (or AEG for that matter). Only real issues were with the V2 mechbox, my SD one cracked two months after I installed a 150% spring, replaced the mechbox, later replaced the spring. As long as you put in a decent spring such as a Modify one (for indoors, go with a 90, sit you around 330fps), you'll be fine. Since I got mine (six years ago for my SD, four for my A5, both used BTW), they've both gone through lots of upgrade/replacement parts, just because of wear or my feeling it was time to swap them out. My SD now has a 330mm tightbore in it, and both my MP5s have the original Trigger Master installed, for the burst feature, 3round on my SD and DonP sent me a custom programmed chip so I was able to dial in 2 round burst (for indoors). Guarder clear hop up rubbers work well with the hop up unit too. I like the way the barrel is supported in three places, makes the MP5 very accurate, was easy to get 2" groups at 30ft (M4/M16s and such are really only supported at the rear, so they are less accurate).

The TM 200rd Mp5 hicaps will spit out roughly 44 rounds per wind.

Awesome, thanks for all the info guys. I like the sound of that 3 round burst, but I'll wait until it comes out and some reviews are done on it.

Is always the Trigger Master to go with, give almost any AEG a three round burst option.

Anybody give any consideration to the G&G MAX Series? Probably too powerful for indoors, but nothing a spring change can't fix. Full metal too, so overall durability shouldn't be too bad. Internals all upgraded too and hey, it has blow-back. I would definitely give it a consideration.

Prob gonna get chirped for this, maybe i got a lemon who knows, but ive been using my cyma mp5 for the last 4 years and its still shooting strong. Ive owned so many guns and this is the one ive always kept and will keep. its got incredable range and has been my primary for outdoors since i got it. its got electric blowback and is full metal. have had some cosmetic issues but no internal issues. lately ive changed the hop up rubber and put in an inner barrel and thats it

the only problem with it is that its heavy as hell. broke the sling loop on the back part because the gun was too heavy for it so i cant use a sling and arms will get sore after gaming it all day haha

VFC Umarex

Rock solid externals and wicked accurate out of the box (it out shoots my VFC M4 SOPMOD)

The only upgrade really, is wiring to Dean's and throwing in a Lipo

Me and my two friends went this way. Just downgraded the springs and that was about it. "Apparently" you might need to check the wiring on the motor as one friend had it loose. We love them.

Blow-back is worthless though. If you want blowback or recoil, get a GBBR (VFC SD3).