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AngelusNex June 29th, 2012 06:39

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Originally Posted by GabeGuitarded (Post 1672279)
Doesn't make sense... FN licenced the SCAR-L to them already.

That was before this whole problem started. I had a we scar with full trades so I know why you'd think that.

redzaku June 29th, 2012 10:54

maybe they should get umarex, it seems that they have legal trades on their OEMed rifles...

Eeyore June 29th, 2012 11:13

It has been confirmed that the WE P90, SCAR H and MP5 projects have been shelved do to licence issues.

That still leaves the WE SVD (behind schedule), the WE Aug, Thompson, grease gun left to be released.

Plus they have two more versions of the AK and a MK 18 Mod 0 to be released soon as well.

I also hear rumors from some insiders about a SR 25 and a LMG in the R&D phase.

slink182 June 29th, 2012 11:15

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Originally Posted by redzaku (Post 1672487)
maybe they should get umarex, it seems that they have legal trades on their OEMed rifles...

I believe that Umarex licenses out for Walther and H&K, and have nothing to do the the FN Herstal licences.

(@Others: If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.)

edit: an AUG and Thompson?! YES PLS THANKYEW!!!!!

Styrak June 29th, 2012 13:37

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Originally Posted by redzaku (Post 1672487)
maybe they should get umarex, it seems that they have legal trades on their OEMed rifles...

Umarex has HK trades.

HeadlessChicken June 29th, 2012 14:20

If its FN's trades thats causing the issue for WE from releasing the P90, MP5, and SCARH then why not remove them to be sold without trades like many of their other guns? Or is it more then just simply slapping FN's logo on the gun thats causing the issue?

Eeyore June 29th, 2012 14:53

Recently firearm making have been bringing litigation against people who make close copies of their work. So anything that looks too much like an MP5 or SCAR is grounds for a suit.

kullwarrior June 29th, 2012 15:15

WE's MP5 and P90, SCAR-H are forever shelved. I posted that a long time ago. Someone asked at WE GBB's facebook page and that was their official answer. MOVE ON folks.

P90's patent might/might not be expired, if it is trademark can be easily overcame

redzaku June 29th, 2012 15:34

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Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1672536)
Umarex has HK trades.

give it time...

HeadlessChicken June 29th, 2012 16:03

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Originally Posted by Eeyore (Post 1672562)
Recently firearm making have been bringing litigation against people who make close copies of their work. So anything that looks too much like an MP5 or SCAR is grounds for a suit.

So regardless if theres trades on the gun or not, WE could still face a lawsuit for making a P90, MP5, and/or SCARH?

lurkingknight June 29th, 2012 16:44

yes.... because copyrights cover visual likeness as well as written material.

kullwarrior June 29th, 2012 19:38

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Originally Posted by HeadlessChicken (Post 1672588)
So regardless if theres trades on the gun or not, WE could still face a lawsuit for making a P90, MP5, and/or SCARH?

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Originally Posted by lurkingknight (Post 1672606)
yes.... because copyrights cover visual likeness as well as written material.



See trade dress lawsuit against Echo1 by Cybergun behalf of FN Herstal.

Echo1 was forced to disassembled their booth at Shotshow 2012 because of the litigation on the Advance Squad Carbine aka SCAR
http://everything-airsoft.com/blog/2...ng-on-fn-scar/

Huron June 29th, 2012 21:05

You'd think airsofters would boycott Cybergun... But it's less than likely in any large numbers. I want my goddamn SCAR-H and I don't want my money going to the French

Styrak June 29th, 2012 22:16

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Originally Posted by redzaku (Post 1672576)
give it time...

Give what time?

lurkingknight June 29th, 2012 22:29

well it would be tough to boycott cybergun, since they hold the licenses to many guns, and if a game features their gun under their control, like in CoD Cybergun gets paid a cut. I'm pretty sure I saw their name int he CoD credits before.

Umarex gets the same deal, this is why they went around buying up licenses from the gun companies for the likeness usage rights I imagine... they saw profit in it, and all they need to do is go to a company like FNH and say "hey, everyone wants to use a likeness of your product in their thing, and you don't have a legal team or department to deal with that, how's about our company take care of that for you. We negotiate the deal to use your stuff, you get paid, we take a cut."

IT's the same for vehicles too... ever look in the credits of a game like Ace Combat? All the plane manufacturers are listed there, logos and full deal... it's because they get paid a cut in licensing fees.


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