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e-luder February 12th, 2014 22:52

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Originally Posted by Jagdalex (Post 1867548)
Thanks for the thorough explanation ;-)

and to answer the durability thing...

It's metal. lol.

The stock valve tends to break the "legs" and snap in half as more and more rounds are fired. THis is further exasterbated by the full auto setting because the floating valve will have to continually open and close as the slide cycles...


That's why I say it's durable.

e-luder February 12th, 2014 22:56

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Originally Posted by turok_t (Post 1867512)
Do they taste like beef? Gamey? I can see you have a lil obsession with bison burgers....:eek:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psf2dc8cb3.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps159219dd.jpg

Yeah.. THey taste like....like...like...lemonade on a hot summer day....

Also...
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...photocopy6.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...a/IMG_0726.jpg

Jagd February 12th, 2014 23:03

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Originally Posted by e-luder (Post 1867551)
and to answer the durability thing...

It's metal. lol.

The stock valve tends to break the "legs" and snap in half as more and more rounds are fired. THis is further exasterbated by the full auto setting because the floating valve will have to continually open and close as the slide cycles...


That's why I say it's durable.

Funny thing is that their metal version is out of production and their latest version is plastic now (looks like derlin to me, which is more resistant than regular plastic) why do you think they went for a plastic one for the G18 for next gen? Because all the other firefly floating valves for the other guns are still in aluminum :-\

Animalmother February 12th, 2014 23:25

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Originally Posted by Jagdalex (Post 1867557)
Funny thing is that their metal version is out of production and their latest version is plastic now (looks like derlin to me, which is more resistant than regular plastic) why do you think they went for a plastic one for the G18 for next gen? Because all the other firefly floating valves for the other guns are still in aluminum :-\

I have the plastic version on route to my doorstep.
I think I'm going to use my gun abusively until explodes killing millions.

Until then, I am in the market for another inner barrel. Well, one that won't eat my nineball bucking.

I'm debating if I should put in the piston head. http://www.evike.com/products/42432/

It looks really nice. I keep glancing at it.

I've been reading about those Tania Kobe barrels for years now but my itchy money spending finger is looking at pdi, id hate to have bucking eaten though.

Bison burgers, pictures of Bill Murray in a old Russian military uniform, long spouse showers, exploding slides..' TM Glock owners... lol


My gf is sick of seeing me touch my glock, she keeps glock blocking me.

Jagd February 12th, 2014 23:53

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Originally Posted by Animalmother (Post 1867566)
I have the plastic version on route to my doorstep.
I think I'm going to use my gun abusively until explodes killing millions.

Until then, I am in the market for another inner barrel. Well, one that won't eat my nineball bucking.

I'm debating if I should put in the piston head. http://www.evike.com/products/42432/

It looks really nice. I keep glancing at it.

I've been reading about those Tania Kobe barrels for years now but my itchy money spending finger is looking at pdi, id hate to have bucking eaten though.

Bison burgers, pictures of Bill Murray in a old Russian military uniform, long spouse showers, exploding slides..' TM Glock owners... lol


My gf is sick of seeing me touch my glock, she keeps glock blocking me.

Dude you have a tm G18 right? That piston head is good for G17 but not G18 the shape of the G18 piston is not the same! Dont order this! For inner barrel on Tokyo-Model.com.hk the Glock Tanio koba one is $40. It's worth it. It is arguably the most accurate inner barrel, you can loose a bit of fps (10 fps lower give or take compared to a 6.01) but who cares when it is more accurate? I am gonna try to see if the pdi w hold is better in term of accuracy to the Nineball purple one. Just got it today! Fucking money pit that Glock pimping hobby! Hehehe

Animalmother February 13th, 2014 02:11

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Originally Posted by Jagdalex (Post 1867575)
Dude you have a tm G18 right? That piston head is good for G17 but not G18 the shape of the G18 piston is not the same! Dont order this! For inner barrel on Tokyo-Model.com.hk the Glock Tanio koba one is $40. It's worth it. It is arguably the most accurate inner barrel, you can loose a bit of fps (10 fps lower give or take compared to a 6.01) but who cares when it is more accurate? I am gonna try to see if the pdi w hold is better in term of accuracy to the Nineball purple one. Just got it today! Fucking money pit that Glock pimping hobby! Hehehe

Yeah TM G18c, I ended up getting that 6.01 Angel Custom one from Evike.
I ordered that piston head on accident it was really late and I cancelled the order too late.
Money pit indeed.

Edit: I forgot to add that I saw I loading nozzle break today. Not my own Glock thankfully.
I remember him saying he was using green gas but so was I.

Looking at the loading nozzle, how does one break it?

kar120c February 13th, 2014 03:22

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Originally Posted by e-luder (Post 1867455)
I *LOVE* the KSC G19.

I used to have one. She fired so well. It had one of the most satisfying slide action I have ever had in a pistol. So Smooth.

IT was almost as good as my homemade bison burgers. But not really. Nothing tops my burgers.

It was strong too. THe KSC Frames are remarkably indestructible.

Can't say much for the G23f though. I hated that thing. lol.
IT was stupidly easy to break. Especially the hammer mech.

THis is how they looked:

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...er/df/G192.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...hotocopy14.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...hotocopy16.jpg

DO a Detonics build.
Not many have them. It'd be quite a unique piece.

I love The Detonics too, I have a full upgraded ore, shot with It ove 10000bb's and It works Like a charm. If someone want to open a Detonics building thread you Can count on me

Jagd February 13th, 2014 09:59

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Originally Posted by Animalmother (Post 1867614)
Yeah TM G18c, I ended up getting that 6.01 Angel Custom one from Evike.
I ordered that piston head on accident it was really late and I cancelled the order too late.
Money pit indeed.

Edit: I forgot to add that I saw I loading nozzle break today. Not my own Glock thankfully.
I remember him saying he was using green gas but so was I.

Looking at the loading nozzle, how does one break it?

Usually the recurrent loading nozzle breaking happen more on the g18c because of the full auto function. It is putting more stress on it. Btw ordering parts from Asia the shipping rates are equal or lower than from ordering from the USA and most of the time your item arrives faster too... Angel custom is the Evike brand... it is nothing to write home about. I once ordered an Angel custom parts and the performance /fitting was sub par. Hopefully that this barrel is better quality and works out for you!

MikeMcNair February 13th, 2014 12:07

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Originally Posted by kar120c (Post 1867623)
I love The Detonics too, I have a full upgraded ore, shot with It ove 10000bb's and It works Like a charm. If someone want to open a Detonics building thread you Can count on me

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE send me links/info/pics of your detonics. to be very honest, i know very little about the platform, and went right to Brian (ILLusion on here) to get advice on what to modify etc.

I WILL build it, oh yes i will. perhaps not right away, but it will be done!!!! i ADORE that pistol.

as for the G19 (larger and more modifyable than the G26, and therefore more powerful) i think this will be my next build. i simply cannot do a full size pistol, it must be compact-subcompact for my tastes. (plus my son is not even 11 yrs old yet, so smaller pistols are easier for him to hold.)

KAR120, did we ever get to the issues with your mags?

e-luder February 13th, 2014 14:16

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Originally Posted by Jagdalex (Post 1867557)
Funny thing is that their metal version is out of production and their latest version is plastic now (looks like derlin to me, which is more resistant than regular plastic) why do you think they went for a plastic one for the G18 for next gen? Because all the other firefly floating valves for the other guns are still in aluminum :-\

It could be a host of things really.

Delrin is actually easier to manipulate on the machines than ABS.
So from a manufacturing perspective, it's probably easier for them to mass produce than say...aluminum. But then again, Delrin is pretty expensive.

From a functionality point of view, even though it's "plastic", its almost the most perfect substitute for aluminum. Delrin is very high in density, making it almost equally resistant to impact as aluminum...

kar120c February 13th, 2014 15:51

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Originally Posted by MikeMcNair (Post 1867679)
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE send me links/info/pics of your detonics. to be very honest, i know very little about the platform, and went right to Brian (ILLusion on here) to get advice on what to modify etc.

Yes, I'll send you in pm, for now if you are on Facebook I have a group dedicated to the Detonics, nothing special but it contains some indo and pics

I WILL build it, oh yes i will. perhaps not right away, but it will be done!!!! i ADORE that pistol.

ps the Pistol in my Avatar is my loved Combat Master


as for the G19 (larger and more modifyable than the G26, and therefore more powerful) i think this will be my next build. i simply cannot do a full size pistol, it must be compact-subcompact for my tastes. (plus my son is not even 11 yrs old yet, so smaller pistols are easier for him to hold.)

KAR120, did we ever get to the issues with your mags?

Issues of what kind?

Animalmother February 13th, 2014 19:58

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Originally Posted by Jagdalex (Post 1867650)
Usually the recurrent loading nozzle breaking happen more on the g18c because of the full auto function. It is putting more stress on it. Btw ordering parts from Asia the shipping rates are equal or lower than from ordering from the USA and most of the time your item arrives faster too... Angel custom is the Evike brand... it is nothing to write home about. I once ordered an Angel custom parts and the performance /fitting was sub par. Hopefully that this barrel is better quality and works out for you!

Is there any way to protect the loading nozzle?
It made me afraid to not use full auto.
Out of every 10 mags cycled, I fire one full auto.

A friend of mine who uses his glock sparingly told me not to use full auto but f that I got this for a reason.

turok_t February 13th, 2014 20:23

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Originally Posted by Animalmother (Post 1867832)
Is there any way to protect the loading nozzle?
It made me afraid to not use full auto.
Out of every 10 mags cycled, I fire one full auto.

A friend of mine who uses his glock sparingly told me not to use full auto but f that I got this for a reason.

The nozzle breaking can be a result of the brittleness of the material making up the nozzle. I heard and experienced many guarder nozzles breaking from several to hundreds of rounds. The also thing to be mindful of, is any misalignment the nozzle may have with the rest of the gun. Guarder ones break fairly easily, so I suggest resorting to other brands including:

AABB
AIP
Pro&T

Surprisingly, my stock G18C nozzle has survived thousands of rounds on continuous high pressure from my compressor.

If you can a WE G18C, your nozzle WILL break because they actually use a steel nozzle guide that is so long that is breaks the nozzle tab during the slide cycle, causing the nozzle return spring to jam, resulting in the slide not being able to reset properly. This is a serious problem, and I can honestly and literally say that I have fixed ~30 of WE G18C's as part of my work as a gun tech.

MikeMcNair February 14th, 2014 08:56

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Originally Posted by kar120c (Post 1867733)
Issues of what kind?

the magazine issues we were speaking of a few pages ago.

please send information and pix to me via PM. i am not on facespace, mybook, tweet-0-gram, pinster, naptrest, or any of those "social" BS sites.

kar120c February 14th, 2014 12:10

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Originally Posted by MikeMcNair (Post 1868038)
the magazine issues we were speaking of a few pages ago.

please send information and pix to me via PM. i am not on facespace, mybook, tweet-0-gram, pinster, naptrest, or any of those "social" BS sites.

You have PM


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