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Lakonian September 2nd, 2008 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman (Post 808844)

If that's the G&P, expect to pay up to 1000 for the body alone.

;)

Juggelz talked me out of it a year or two back.... lol

wildcard September 2nd, 2008 17:47

My version of the HK417 are basicly a G&P SR25 with a Hurricane 416 Stock, PSG style grips from KA, I tried putting a 416 front(JG) it looked like an ugly bastard so kept the SR front and currently in the look out for a HK front sights to make it closer to a 417 other than that you will have a hard time finding parts that fit or you could always resort to one off custom job that cost more than the real steel counterparts.
in any case good luck with your build.

Lakonian September 2nd, 2008 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 808875)
My version of the HK417 are basicly a G&P SR25 with a Hurricane 416 Stock, PSG style grips from KA, I tried putting a 416 front(JG) it looked like an ugly bastard so kept the SR front and currently in the look out for a HK front sights to make it closer to a 417 other than that you will have a hard time finding parts that fit or you could always resort to one off custom job that cost more than the real steel counterparts.
in any case good luck with your build.

Buy a KA MRF... It's the closest thing to what you're looking for....

bodydropper September 2nd, 2008 17:52

nice one! good luck with that and send some more pics.

attack-beaver September 2nd, 2008 18:42

the first version of the 417 used g3 mags same shit mighy be easier

Shirley September 2nd, 2008 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 808870)
If that's the G&P, expect to pay up to 1000 for the body alone.

;)

Juggelz talked me out of it a year or two back.... lol

Yes it is. It's a nice body too. :(

wildcard September 2nd, 2008 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 808878)
Buy a KA MRF... It's the closest thing to what you're looking for....

The G&P SR25 URX (the one I own) have something similar so after trying the JG I decided to leave the original back on as they are the closest thing to the 417 look

Communist September 2nd, 2008 21:03

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Originally Posted by attack-beaver (Post 808904)
the first version of the 417 used g3 mags same shit mighy be easier


The G3 magazines are a different size from the M4s unfortunately.

There's a magwell conversion kit for the G36 to use M4 mags, but I've e-mailed the makers to see if they plan to produce any for other models, such as the M4.

Styrak September 2nd, 2008 21:05

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Originally Posted by Communist (Post 808986)
The G3 magazines are a different size from the M4s unfortunately.

That's kinda the idea. The G3 fires 7.62. The M4 does not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Communist (Post 808986)
There's a magwell conversion kit for the G36 to use M4 mags, but I've e-mailed the makers to see if they plan to produce any for other models, such as the M4.

Hunh? To convert an M4 to use G36 mags? Why would anyone want to do that?

Danke September 2nd, 2008 21:16

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Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 808988)
That's kinda the idea. The G3 fires 7.62. The M4 does not.



Hunh? To convert an M4 to use G36 mags? Why would anyone want to do that?

I converted a 416 to take M4 mags, does that count?

Styrak September 2nd, 2008 21:19

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Originally Posted by Danke (Post 808992)
I converted a 416 to take M4 mags, does that count?

Lulz.
It would be more productive.

Dusti69 September 3rd, 2008 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Communist (Post 808986)
The G3 magazines are a different size from the M4s unfortunately.

There's a magwell conversion kit for the G36 to use M4 mags, but I've e-mailed the makers to see if they plan to produce any for other models, such as the M4.

strange how you can tell that but you cant tell the difference between a g36 and an m4 mag
Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 808988)
Hunh? To convert an M4 to use G36 mags? Why would anyone want to do that?

i dont think it would even be possible. the m mag conversion for a g36 is just a dif magwell cuz its magwell is removable. an m4's is not. theyd have to make an entirely different lower
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Originally Posted by Danke (Post 808992)
I converted a 416 to take M4 mags, does that count?

youre joking right? my 416 takes all my m4 mags

Styrak September 3rd, 2008 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69 (Post 809203)
youre joking right? my 416 takes all my m4 mags

*whooooosh*

Drake September 3rd, 2008 02:57

This thread is just facepalm after facepalm.

@Communist: You seem to not be grasping -- and not because many people haven't tried explaining this already -- that the HK417 is chambered for 7.62x51mm.

HK417: 7.62x51mm
G3: 7.62x51mm

HK416: 5.56x45mm
G36: 5.56x45mm
M4: 5.56x45mm

7.62x51 on the left, 5.56x45 on the right (forget the middle one):
http://tacticalmoose.com/pic/2671836...0Bdqvav_ph.jpg


The first thing you may have noticed is they're very shiny. You may also have noticed 7.62x51 is a lot bigger.

This is why people are trying to tell you you need to modify the receiver to make it longer, or use an SR25 receiver, and why you need to use the larger G3 mags and that G36 or SIG552 mags won't do, or that M4 receivers won't do. Get it? If you're building an HK417 but it's using 5.56x45 mags then its an HK416. The WHOLE POINT of the HK417 is that it's chambered to 7.62x51. It's like a KAC SR-15 vs SR-25.

Aaargh! /facepalm

Dusti69 September 3rd, 2008 03:11

do the real steel bullet sizes even matter really when it comes to airsoft? airsoft mags are just the size they are without any bullets in them so id think the size of the mag itself would be what made the difference but i guess the bullet sizes tell you relative mag size differences


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