When it's pitch black during a moonless night?

Seriously, are there lots of wooden areas in Afghanistan?

Don't be a smarty ass, seriously.

Here's a few examples of TW CADPAT working well in Afghanistan.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/phot...Canada/d_cdn14

http://media.militaryphotos.net/phot...Canada/d_cdn15

http://media.militaryphotos.net/phot...Canada/d_cdn16


Theres even wooded/jungle'ish Areas in Iraq.

Mikel is correct. I can remember reading an article, perhaps in the Globeandmail, where someone was bitching that we weren't giving our troops the right BDUs for the job..........but several U.S. chopper pilots said the CADPAT worked better than any other for the terrain they were in.

Sorry Mikel, didn't want to be a smartass. Was only a joke, no offense.
I heard the bitching jjronnie is talking about, and saw some pics of green soldiers in some yellowish sand. I only had that image of the soldiers in Afghanistan, and the only landscape I've seen in Afghanistant was either sand or greyish rock mountains. So when you said TW Cadpat is good in Afghanistan, I was just wandering how could it be.
Thanks a lot for the pictures, though!

Kymoz

Just remember, Afghanistan has green hills, it's not all a desert. But even the barren desert landscape worked [somewhat] with the faded Gen1's...

Well I was referring more to the political decisions about wanting to issue TW CADPAT to the whole Army (or something to that effect) before even beginning to produce AR.

From those photos you provided of the PPCLI guys and the pictures I've seen on the DND Combat Camera site - to me it still clearly shows that TW CADPAT ain't the best choice for Afghanistan. MULTICAM or SpecAm Arid would be better. Whilst the TW CADPAT wasn't as obvious in that mountainous terrain, it still wasn't that great either.

Well no shit. Why would green work in a mostly desert country? Albeit there are cases of TW fitting in in the highlands, but the rest of the country is sand, and that was what hurried the production of AR.
I do agree though, Multicam would work wonders in Afghanistan.

Hey - I was referring to your post above. No reason to get beligerent.

Don't worry about it, he's one of those know-it-all cadet type kids, don't let him bother you.

oh...well i'm sorry if i come on a bit strong...

MultiCam an SpecAm are not the camoflage in use with the CF so they won't be worn.

TW CADPAT uniforms were being produced before 9/11; up untill than there was no rush to make AR CADPAT.

TW CADPAT was the only uniform available, so thats what they wore.

So only the faded Gen 1's worked? Not the faded Gen 2's?
You haven't been there, I'm sure you have seen pics.. But really, sea cadet.. Giving advice on camo in Afganasten?

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So when was the first issue of CADPAT AR? Was it just produced in the Gen3 pattern or where there Gen1 pattern's released?

Duh - no shit Sherlock. You obviously didn't read my post carefully enough - I never said that they were. But even before 9/11 the Canadian Forces have been involved in loads of overseas Peacekeeping missions, and it doesn't take a genious to work out that there was a higher probability that the forces would be deployed in arid regions overseas on real-world missions before they'd be involved in such missions on Canadian soil. That was my only point. :hammer:

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Once I get a digital camara I will post tones of pictures of camouflage on different backgrounds.