Being a PDW doesn't make a gun a submachine gun.


And the prototype fires 5.56 rounds.
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I wasn't calling it a submachine gun hence why I called it a pdw...

Also being a pdw doesn't make it an assault rifle either.

being a Personal Defense Rifle kind of sort of does. a rifle capable of full auto fire is an assault rifle.

What about an personal-defense-assault-machine-gun-compact-rifle!!!!
They sell it a a PTS PDR-C so for me its a PDR-C ( Pre Discontinued Rifle )
Joking!
I like the look and I want one but I wait until more reviews, or just the good reviews or comments that gonna convince me.
For me,
the pros:
- very compact
- light
- M4/16 mags
- Quick change spring
- quick acces to everything
- the trigger action (semi/auto/safe)

the cons:
- The recessed flash hider
- The undetermined reliability of mechbox
- The price vs other product of higher quality
- More a bad than a good reputation for the moment

just got mine from milsig, didn't get to be main weapon, prob for night games as my m14ebr long is too hard to move around in the bush in the dark. as well as any cqb games. have to say rof isn't anything to write home about on a 7.4 lipo but decent for what i want the gun for. had to "tweak" my old mags to work but simple filing fixed that. love it for what it is, oh and far easier to aim than my tar21 or even my old p90(and no feed issues).

When it comes to space in the pistol grip, what is preventing you from cutting out a hole into the innards of the gun to fit a longer battery? What is preventing a custom-sized battery from a hobby shop being dropped in there? Seems like plenty of space for a LiPo to me.

That Ares micro-switch is all that has me worried really. Are there alternatives that could be used?

for those worried about the lost bb's from the feed tube i think if you dremell a notch in each side of the tube (on each side of the gear box) or the front and back of the tube (in relation to the rifle) you could put an oring around it that would retain the bb's in the tube like a madbull hop up

like so cut where the white lines are on both halves of the gb
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...norm/gbmod.jpg

my 7.4 1600 lipo fits snug but a small 11.1 should fit fine too. there is supposed to be an extended battery cover coming out soon, allowing for larger battery and larger hands to comfortably grip the gun. i don't understand what the issue is with losing a couple bbs? just chrono'd mine at 395fps, rof 12 with 7.4

You could just hold it with your index finger along the lower reciever and use your middle finger for your trigger finger with the ring and pinky on the grip. For those who have played "Time Crysis" the old finger banging the trigger cuz your trigger finger got tired method.

This would be an instant sale for me if I could throw out the microswitch and have a large battery enough cavity somewhere for something like this, at least:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...alog/19123.jpg

So here's what I'm thinking...

The fake bolt has removable ambidextrous charging handles. Take one off, drill a couple of holes in the body and install a side rail. Install PEQ battery box and wire to there.

Doable? It certainly looks like it should be. I'll probably be ordering one soon.

Alright, my mistake lol I'm not interested in real firearms so I never really payed much attention to the difference but in retrospect PDR is a 'rifle' so that's my bad.

Anyway how does it perform? I'd like to replace my VA MP5A2 with something a little better, so I've been looking around for something that suits my tastes.

so finally got out for a couple short games, got to use the pdr for a round. love it. soo easy to aim, It is so intuitive that after a few rounds i wasn't even really sighting in my target, just aiming like i was pulling a pistol quickly! I did find it pretty loud, might have to open her up and adjust the motor. the recoil is surprisingly noticeable and makes me worry a little about reliability...

played a whole season with the pdr without issue. 11.1 made a big difference for the rof. and even with a small battery, it never died before the end of the day. as far as mag compatibility, you need to "tweak" some mags so they will work, see pic. but they still work in my other guns(tavor and m4). the feed tube is not an issue for me as we usually play hicap or midcap games out in the bush and i just fill the tube b4 putting in first mag. and if you own this gun realistically it's not your only weapon so for lowcap games switch. i love this gun, especially for games that i know are going to involve a lot of running or sneaking around corners or tight spaces.

So what if my PDR breaks
where and what parts can I get?