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Brian McIlmoyle May 16th, 2011 17:23

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Originally Posted by Ninja_En_Short (Post 1467249)
Now I'd like a change in caliber...


Colt's influence can't be denied, they have a LONG history with the US army and all branches.

I donno on the change of Caliber.. the argument would have to be pretty persuasive

Ninja_En_Short May 16th, 2011 17:45

Well there's the "See that taliban you just shot in the guts? Now look how he stands up and start shooting back.".
And the "sad" part is : the talban in this story ain't even high. The 5.56 has a low stopping power, that's why i'd like a change to 6.5 or 6.8. I'm using my 417 90% of the time (and I love my sweet 7.62), the rest is on my 98B so .338 LM.
Obviously these too are for DMR and marksmen but a simple Grendel retrofit (6.5) wouldn't hurt.

George Burdell May 16th, 2011 19:37

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Originally Posted by Ninja_En_Short (Post 1467303)
Well there's the "See that taliban you just shot in the guts? Now look how he stands up and start shooting back.".
And the "sad" part is : the talban in this story ain't even high. The 5.56 has a low stopping power, that's why i'd like a change to 6.5 or 6.8. I'm using my 417 90% of the time (and I love my sweet 7.62), the rest is on my 98B so .338 LM.
Obviously these too are for DMR and marksmen but a simple Grendel retrofit (6.5) wouldn't hurt.

It sounds like you have been watching Future Weapons, who's claims are about as reliable as Deadliest warrior. They have claimed that the .45 ACP has more energy than the 9x19mm and claimed that the .408 Cheytac had more energy than the .50BMG at 500 yards; I am not even going to mention that whole dragon skin thing.

SuperCriollo May 16th, 2011 20:02

The most comfortable rifle is the one you are used to, so considering that the vast majority of people use, or have used ARs...well you know whats the answer.

Imo the G36 is pretty comfty, I like its grippy rubberized stock.

Funker-Tactical May 16th, 2011 20:22

Ive ownee an m4 carried a c7 every day for 8 months strait own an ar15 and think that my g36 is more comfortable then all of them

Ninja_En_Short May 16th, 2011 21:11

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Originally Posted by George Burdell (Post 1467401)
It sounds like you have been watching Future Weapons, who's claims are about as reliable as Deadliest warrior. They have claimed that the .45 ACP has more energy than the 9x19mm and claimed that the .408 Cheytac had more energy than the .50BMG at 500 yards; I am not even going to mention that whole dragon skin thing.

I like the show but no (and I share the thought about the so called Deadliest Warrior I watched only two minutes).
But relation stopping power, guy who stands up after being hit, that's not a joke (and if I have no idea about the .408 the .45 ACP vs 9x19 is true by the way). The British experienced it during decolonization with high caliber and really really high Africans with machettes, we experienced it during WWs, Afghanistan, and it continues today. So yes, sometimes size matters.

Cliffradical May 16th, 2011 22:48

I may just have the right body type, but AKs just seem to roll right up perfectly every time without any help from me.

I had to think about how I moved my AR before I learned to handle it reflexively.

Full-stock MP5s are somewhat awkward for me, though I love them dearly. :(

Cheesevillage May 16th, 2011 23:21

The MP5 is very comfortable...until you hold a G36. The G36[c] really does make the MP5's design feel dated.

I have held both P90 and FAMAS but have never reloaded them. The FAMAS, especially, really gives the G36 a run for its money in terms of overall feel IMO.

Of note: have help basically all airsoft gun derivatives that are readily available.

Cinco Boy May 16th, 2011 23:42

When I had a P90 it felt SO nice to hold and use. Never used in CQB but I would imagine it would be a king. Only issue was that reloading was a total ass clown's manoeuvre, which is ultimately why I sold it.

George Burdell May 17th, 2011 00:02

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Originally Posted by Ninja_En_Short (Post 1467513)
I like the show but no (and I share the thought about the so called Deadliest Warrior I watched only two minutes).
But relation stopping power, guy who stands up after being hit, that's not a joke (and if I have no idea about the .408 the .45 ACP vs 9x19 is true by the way). The British experienced it during decolonization with high caliber and really really high Africans with machettes, we experienced it during WWs, Afghanistan, and it continues today. So yes, sometimes size matters.

The show is just a glorified infomercial, so they will show the slightest issue with the competitor and then overstate it so the product that is being advertised seems much better than it is. The issue of lethality is not as big as it would seem; page 7 of this government document provides some insight on this http://militec1.com/swat.pdf .

Rai May 17th, 2011 00:16

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Originally Posted by George Burdell (Post 1467401)
It sounds like you have been watching Future Weapons, who's claims are about as reliable as Deadliest warrior. They have claimed that the .45 ACP has more energy than the 9x19mm and claimed that the .408 Cheytac had more energy than the .50BMG at 500 yards; I am not even going to mention that whole dragon skin thing.

How about this as a argument,

See that coyote that you just shot with a .223 non FMJ?

Notice how it just spun in a circle and ran away?

The biggest problem with the 5.56 is that it's FMJ if it was hollow point or jacketed soft point it would be so much better.

Me I like my FN FAL and M14 7.62x54 death. Airsoft versions replicate the feel well.

ratnest May 17th, 2011 01:03

never reloaded or gamed one, but an aug was stupidly comfy to shoulder.

f2000 is also nice once you practice reloading bullpup.

g36 is also comfy. pretty much the only m4/m16 feature that i miss is the convenient location of the mag release button

Chrios May 17th, 2011 01:10

If talking pure comfort, I`d have to go with a P90.

If something comfortable that I`d use, MP5.

Cheesevillage May 17th, 2011 01:13

Of note: aug and Tavor both torque down on rear hand due to weight distrubution--to me they seem inferior to many other guns in terms of feel.

Danke May 17th, 2011 01:14

These guys are about coyote sized. HELI-HOG'N on Vimeo


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