??? you gotta be kidding me right? the graphics look no different then rainbow 6 lock down on original xbox...as much as i love to discuss this with u..why dont u make a new thread and ill voice my opinion there as sad as it seems i still do ewanna know what kind of shotty to get wit my m16 thanx

The Masterkey kit is designed to work with a CA870 or a Maruzen 870 as far as I know. Keep in mind it will require some gunsmithing to fit.

so what your sayin is theres no way for me to fit a shot gun on this
http://www.wgcshop.com/WGC_Shop/imag..._aeg_m15a3.jpg

yes i am a noob...so dont get mad

What I posted is the type of shotgun that the kit works with. :D


You can fit the kit to an M16, but you'll need to bolt a rail to the bottom handguard (or buy a RAS/RIS set to replace the handguard completely) in order to mount it.

you would need to get an RIS foregrip then get a shotty with a rail on the top and rail connector things....

Someone else will give you a better answer. The TM M16 grenade launcher would fit on, look like a grenade launcher but they work like a shotty.

Or you could use the Masterkey kit that ASCA is trying to get rid of. :)

naw...u guys are being really helpful thank you very much i appriciate it.

ill be more specific..i want a full metal assault rifle prefurebly an m16 or equivalent (ICS) is the only company i found that makes them. And having said that which shotgun would i need exactly...i want that full metal as well.

ICS or Classic Army is your best bet for a full metal M16, and if you're looking at using the Masterkey kit that ASCA sells (which is your best bet for mounting an underbarrel shotgun) you'll need a Classic Army 870 or a Maruzen 870.

anyone give a price quote yet? sounds expensive

are those full metal!?

Its almost as bad as:
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/citizensafe/UTAfull2.jpg

Like... wtf...

whats the point of that? its a 5.56 with a weak handgun on it. it makes no sense.

Its a lot more effective to strap a G36c to a PSG-1...:D

Not the first time I've seen a handgun mount for a primary type weapon, all I can see it as is really fast access to your sidearm.

for someone whose interested in realism you don't know too much do you?? the assualt rifle with a mounted shotgun IS in fact a REAL weapon used in the military.....yes the pistol/assault rifle combo..is ridiculous...but not the assault rifle/shotty....

actually, the underbarrel shotgun, known as the masterkey, is infact a breaching tool. the shotgun is used to blow open doors at the hinges or opening mechanism, thus it is calles "the masterkey". If you were smart youd use the rifle well before youd use the shotgun, however i could see its application in CQC. the handgun under barrel mout is just trvial.

Keep a tab on the "you dont know much do you". those tend to turn good threads into flame fests.