+1 this is what I did... VFC FTW!

or do one better and get the HurricanE Kit :P

While where at it why doesn't he just a get s systema PTW? Never go wrong there haha

Then he'd just be a chairsofter...

Just getting started guys not gonna drop $400 on a gun yet and when I do it's probably gonna be a CA scar-H. I'm gonna buy a JG hk416 and see how that works out for me. Gonna change it to a softer spring so its field legal and take the more powerful spring out of it and stick it in my craptacular first AEG a cyma MP5 that ive hardly ever shot ( I think the magazine sucks it's misfeed city)

How are PTW's for chairsofter? If anything all those clones are for chairsofters since they will spend the majority of their time on a chair fixing them:D

To the OP, grab the JG one, change the spring, give the gears a good lubbing and reshimme it.

isnt jg also a clone brand?
i know d-boys is a clone brand but how good of a clone would a d-boys gun be?
i wonder how they compare to jg's since ive seen a lot of d-boys aeg's running for like a hundred dollars more than a jg, and i see a lot of d-boys guns advertised with all metal bodies whereas the jg's come with plastic ones

Are they not a highly sought after collectors piece? I know of more chairsofters with PTW's than airsofters.

I thought people bought them because they are very reliable and perform better than most AEG's... thats why i got mine and same reason my friends did...

Lol, I guess it goes both ways, but they are prime wall hangers, no doubt about that one. Like I said, I've heard of more wall hangers/ plinkers than I've seen em on the field. Anyway, </threadjack>

JG are fine, and if you want to make it better, there's a decent parts market to buy upgrades. :)

It annoys me when US members come to this site and are like "I don't want to spend $400 on a good gun (CA/G&P,etc), I'm just starting out." Well shit... why don't you just rub it in a little more eh? lol

Kalnaren don't you know I need to keep the $200 differance in price between a VFC and a JG in case I get injured so I can actually afford to go to the emergency room and recieve some vague semblance of care. Moral of the story US vs Canada your spending the extra $200 either way:p ( I'd rather spend it on a gun:p)

Touche