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DSFD506 October 24th, 2007 18:02

aight gotcha my bad then. Guess all that leaves now is why the anti reversal latch isn't doing it's job.

ILLusion October 24th, 2007 18:06

Check the spring strength and make sure the latch can flip unrestricted. Make sure there isn't a buildup of goopy grease in the axle holes.

yanhchan October 24th, 2007 18:12

I actually have a small problem right now or maybe its not a problem and I think it is.

Basically I know that I need to relieve the spring tension by firing a few times on semi. However I noticed that my piston is about 70% back even after I fire in semi, I takes about 10 semi shots to get it at the 0% or all the way in position. I timed my gears to the 1300 position and everything seems to be installed properly. It fires every shot but my only worry is that over time my spring will degrade and I'll have to change it every few games since it stays loaded for long periods of time, and the hassle of disassembling every game is something I don't really want to do.

I'm running

G&P reinforced mechbox
guarder infinate torque up gears
Classic Army High Torque motor
M120 spring.
madbull poly half tooth piston w/ systema silent piston head
Systema cylinder head
G&P air nozzle

*I'm assuming it could be the low battery power problem since I'm using a 8.4 to run this rig....

DSFD506 October 24th, 2007 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 561525)
Check the spring strength and make sure the latch can flip unrestricted. Make sure there isn't a buildup of goopy grease in the axle holes.

Yeah I've checked all that over and everything looks good. I guess i'll just buy a new one and try that.

Skruface October 24th, 2007 19:29

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Originally Posted by DSFD506 (Post 561425)
I read skruface mention a MODIFY anti reversal latch but who carries those ?

www.airsoftparts.ca

Juggles is awesome to deal with.

DSFD506 October 24th, 2007 19:37

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Originally Posted by Skruface (Post 561584)
www.airsoftparts.ca

Juggles is awesome to deal with.

Thanks...I may go ahead and get me one of those. Also is there any difference b/w a cylinder with the port on the back and one without it ?

ILLusion October 25th, 2007 03:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanhchan (Post 561532)
I actually have a small problem right now or maybe its not a problem and I think it is.

Basically I know that I need to relieve the spring tension by firing a few times on semi. However I noticed that my piston is about 70% back even after I fire in semi, I takes about 10 semi shots to get it at the 0% or all the way in position. I timed my gears to the 1300 position and everything seems to be installed properly. It fires every shot but my only worry is that over time my spring will degrade and I'll have to change it every few games since it stays loaded for long periods of time, and the hassle of disassembling every game is something I don't really want to do.

I'm running

G&P reinforced mechbox
guarder infinate torque up gears
Classic Army High Torque motor
M120 spring.
madbull poly half tooth piston w/ systema silent piston head
Systema cylinder head
G&P air nozzle

*I'm assuming it could be the low battery power problem since I'm using a 8.4 to run this rig....

The amount of torque you're running is overkill and most likely the cause for it to wind so much. The system stops based on restriction against rotational momentum after the cut-off lever trips the electrical circuit.
But with that much torque, even the tiniest rotational momentum is enough to keep the piston winding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSFD506 (Post 561591)
Thanks...I may go ahead and get me one of those. Also is there any difference b/w a cylinder with the port on the back and one without it ?

Yes, the one without the port has more air volume than the one without.
The ported one should also give a higher rate of fire.

yanhchan October 25th, 2007 08:39

Thanks Brian, I'll throw in my other gears from my AK to see if it solves this problem they should be Standard ratio if I remember correctly.

DSFD506 October 25th, 2007 16:16

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Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 561880)
Yes, the one without the port has more air volume than the one without.
The ported one should also give a higher rate of fire.

Alright...I have torque up gears now but i'm gonna switch them out for high speed gears instead. So I guess I should stick with the ported cylinder I have now ?

ILLusion October 25th, 2007 20:14

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Originally Posted by DSFD506 (Post 562117)
Alright...I have torque up gears now but i'm gonna switch them out for high speed gears instead. So I guess I should stick with the ported cylinder I have now ?

That totally depends on the length of your inner barrel and doesn't really have anything at all to do with what your gearset is or what your ROF goals are.

The ROF output is just a by-product of the primary purpose of the port, which is to affect air volume.

DSFD506 October 25th, 2007 20:27

Gotcha. I just have the stock 363mm barrel. I'll just stick with the same cylinder when I change the gears and piston.

hutch1970 October 30th, 2007 10:50

Just a thought.Could the little nub on the sector gear in combo w/ tappet plate be the problem? It's mentioned that a diffrent brand of gears are being used.Kind of like the sector gear in the CA25 w/ the large timing nub w/ longer stroke piston.Whoops-noticed just now a2nd page.Hope you find your solution.

ILLusion October 30th, 2007 13:27

That shouldn't affect the cycle in a negative manner.


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