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Able1 October 14th, 2011 02:19

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Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 1545887)
They do have metal pipes but the dissapointing pfft on each shot is a turn off if you like the bull in a china shop shotgun approach



too quiet for a shotty, the point of using a shotty is to scare the shit out of the receiving end, the dreaded racking and that massive BANG is what makes teh shotty appealing to many users, the bad ass mofo with a pipe that can produced so much damage. when you use a shotty you are throwing out the silent approach

Agreed, but still silence is golden!

Reckless October 19th, 2011 00:08

as much as a china lake would kick ass ( I know I would want one) ... but wouldn't a rotary launcher be a better option? ..

for a china lake, tube magazine style I can see one big issue... sitting in the tube, the nose of one 40mm would be against the firing button of the one in front of it...

Styrak October 19th, 2011 00:17

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Originally Posted by Coresair (Post 1545868)
waiting for a GBBS :D

Maruzen M1100

Reckless October 19th, 2011 00:17

however... mag fed... would be badass ;)

EagleDriver October 19th, 2011 09:50

The Tanaka/Airsoft Surgeon M870 with Madbull SS6 shells filled with CO2 for the best looking and sounding shotgun. It has a loud report and not some whimpy pfft sound, not to mention the sound when racking it. The 6 rounds are loaded in-line, but since the Airsoft Surgeon version removes the inner barrel you get a good 6 shot buckshot type spread.

terrorist one October 19th, 2011 11:17

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Originally Posted by EagleDriver (Post 1548807)
The Tanaka/Airsoft Surgeon M870 with Madbull SS6 shells filled with CO2 for the best looking and sounding shotgun. It has a loud report and not some whimpy pfft sound, not to mention the sound when racking it. The 6 rounds are loaded in-line, but since the Airsoft Surgeon version removes the inner barrel you get a good 6 shot buckshot type spread.

But..... to start off, the tanaka 870 is shit. SUre the exterieur is all alluminum, but the interieur is all cheap plastique, easy to brake if you rack the gun 2 hard. And from experience, everything on the tanaka 870 wobbles, and i mean everything. Now i dont know much about the Airsoft surgen moded tanaka, but im sure they didint make all the internals of the gun aluminum or metal, and really that is the down fall of the tanaka. It just wont last if you plan on gaming it.

And for the madbull shells, having personally owned 15. They always leak, no matter what you do, and thats on propane. on CO2, its even whorse.

All and all your better of bying a TM shotty or a crossman. They are cheaper and wont brake as easy as a tanaka. So you can actually game it.

wildcard October 19th, 2011 11:51

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Originally Posted by terrorist one (Post 1548854)
But..... to start off, the tanaka 870 is shit. SUre the exterieur is all alluminum, but the interieur is all cheap plastique, easy to brake if you rack the gun 2 hard. And from experience, everything on the tanaka 870 wobbles, and i mean everything. Now i dont know much about the Airsoft surgen moded tanaka, but im sure they didint make all the internals of the gun aluminum or metal, and really that is the down fall of the tanaka. It just wont last if you plan on gaming it.

And for the madbull shells, having personally owned 15. They always leak, no matter what you do, and thats on propane. on CO2, its even whorse.

All and all your better of bying a TM shotty or a crossman. They are cheaper and wont brake as easy as a tanaka. So you can actually game it.

Actually the CL shotty are all metal, as for the madbull shells well most of the ones I see with issues are the ones that never got taken apart and lubed, All my madbull shells whether it's 40mm or shotty shells get taken down and relubed after a few shot on CO2. as far as TM shotty well the only one I like are the tactical launcher, all their shotty from their M3 to SPAS that I've owned in the past have issues the only one that is problem free are their tactical launcher which utilize the same mechanism and shell. Until someone makes a realistic Shot gun action capabilities I'll stick to my AEG and GBBR, the shotty for airsoft is like a pretty wall hanger

Pinard October 19th, 2011 11:57

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Until someone makes a realistic Shot gun action capabilities I'll stick to my AEG and GBBR, the shotty for airsoft is like a pretty wall hanger
not so much... In CQB when it is shotgun and pistol only games, shottys are pretty useful.
I liked playing with a shotgun when their was no AEG allowed even if it is not as scary as its rs counterpart

Coresair October 19th, 2011 19:16

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Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1548698)
Maruzen M1100

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Originally Posted by Coresair (Post 1545868)
waiting for a GAME-ABLE GBBS :D

there I fixed it :P

For the record I was referring to WE's "project"...

wildcard October 19th, 2011 19:24

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Originally Posted by Pinard (Post 1548885)
not so much... In CQB when it is shotgun and pistol only games, shottys are pretty useful.
I liked playing with a shotgun when their was no AEG allowed even if it is not as scary as its rs counterpart

For pistol and CQB games my G&P shotty are great but for the destructive path and the dreaded Rack and Bang department, airsoft shotty still comes up short unless they make a shotty type 40mm airsoft launcher that I didn't know about. So far aside from the uber expensive CL slugshot there are none in the market that comes up close to the real thing

MadMax October 19th, 2011 20:52

I'm probably breaking a rule here pushing my WTB post but...

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...90#post1549190

Sounds like there are some veterans here who have fielded some airsoft shotties and have given up on them. Does anyone have a busted TM Super 90 with a full stock for a project I'm working on?

Guess what: it's a combat worthy shotty. Sorry, I have no details to release as I am still a longass way off from finishing this project. A few players have gotten to try out an early proof of concept model which they liked despite some niggling issues I'm ironing out.

Reckless October 19th, 2011 21:06

oh Mr Mad max .... another dasterly airsoft thing to drain my wallet... yay! LOL ..

definately want a good Rack Rack BANG fieldable airsoft Shotty in my collection... I had an absolute BLAST with my old TM super 90 ... and miss it greatly .. except for the thing everyone one else that loves shotties says .. the miserable pffffttt...

TaroBear October 19th, 2011 21:41

Max, are you interested in the extendable stock version?

need_a_name October 19th, 2011 22:25

well not too long ago i though of something, why not combine the awsommeness of a pump with the destrutivity of a revolving grenade launcher? so i though of this a pump action revolving grenade launcher. you get the racking you want if built correctly and the greatness of 6 40mm's to shoot with.

so this would solve the probleme with the great racking sound and thebang of a 40mm, although its still not a true shotty.

MadMax October 20th, 2011 01:05

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Originally Posted by TaroBear (Post 1549234)
Max, are you interested in the extendable stock version?

I didn't realize that TM made one with an extendable stock. Is your stock an aftermarket one? I think I recall G&P making a collapsible twisting stock. I don't recall if there was ever a M4 style stock.

need_a_name: I don't plan to develop anything around the 40mm Moscart until I finish my launchable grenade work. This project is taking quite a long time, but if I can pull it off, I'd consider making 40mm related products. Currently I fell the 40mm rounds are prohibitively expensive for use as a shotgun round. They're nice and loud, but I don't find the have enough reach.


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