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coach January 23rd, 2011 23:12

The ASCU would solve all your overspin issues and allow you to run a big spring and big battery. You would have to still use a very high torque motor though

Edit: ASCU is V2 only right now

Corbin January 23rd, 2011 23:12

Ya i know I'd have to deal with the other issues, so would something like that be more suitable for an m110?
http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_i...ducts_id=32257

ILLusion January 23rd, 2011 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbin (Post 1393809)
Ya i know I'd have to deal with the other issues, so would something like that be more suitable for an m110?
http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_i...ducts_id=32257

I believe that motor provides more torque and ROF than the original motor. If that's the case, then it could make it worse.

Corbin January 24th, 2011 00:15

make what worse? I haven't ordered anything yet! lol, anyways all im really looking for is a motor with a bit more torque then my stock motor.

ILLusion January 24th, 2011 00:43

Overspin

coach January 24th, 2011 07:12

I have that motor in an ASCU build and it doesn't have all that much torque. Pulling an m120, it can over spin and back spin way too easily. I've gone to the G&P m170 and it seems to control over/back spin without issue.

http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...oducts_id=1846

The higher the torque, the harder it will be to turn the pinion gear over by hand. More torque also means stronger magnets so it will stop soon when power is cut off. That G&P m120 turns way too easily by hand.

Corbin January 24th, 2011 18:31

So, you used the M170 motor with a m120 spring? Also Im ordering to day so i would appreciate a bit more feedback if i can get it.
PS: will this mosfet work in an ak? the switch looks different.
http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_i...ducts_id=30538

coach January 24th, 2011 18:50

Yes, it's a very high torque motor.

I am using the ASCU, in a G&P m120 gearbox, which eliminates the anti reverse latch. It fully depends on the cutoff lever and motor to start and stop the cycles. What was happening with the G&P m120 motor was that at the end of a cycle, the motor could not completely stop as soon as the power is disconnected. The end result is that the gears would continue to spin forwards and start a new cycle, I'll call it a slight overspin from built up forward momentum/energy, then when the motor stopped the spring would be slightly compressed and that tension would reverse the gears causing the back spin to neutral.

This was bad for me because if I caught the back spin with a trigger pull, it'd put a ton of stress on the motor. The TM eg1000 was significantly better than the G&P m120 but the m170 solved it since it will stop the moment power has been disconnected.

Corbin January 24th, 2011 18:54

I don't plan on an ASCU, so i will have a anti-reversal latch. So what motor would you recommend for a m110 in that setup? (with a 9.6v batt)

THe_Silencer January 24th, 2011 19:33

Guarder Infinite Torque http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-p...ype-motor.html
G&P M140 http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-p...140-short.html
G&P M160 http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-p...ger-motor.html

I personally run the M160 in my main AEG. Strong enough to pull a M160 spring, smooth and sexy sounding, power efficient, and will give you a much better ROF than your stock motor. Worth every penny.

Corbin January 24th, 2011 19:37

thanks, i am most likely going to get this
http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_i...ducts_id=29143
run it with m110, and ill get my fps and rof that i want.

THe_Silencer January 24th, 2011 19:57

I'm not a fan of buying from US sites. Evike has a notorious rep for crap customer service. Shipping is more expensive and usually slower than from Canadian and Chinese sites and they often rape you in the ass with brokerage fees b/c many US sites use UPS. That and you're buying a rebranded Chinese motor so reliability is hit or miss.

coach January 24th, 2011 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbin (Post 1394360)
I don't plan on an ASCU, so i will have a anti-reversal latch. So what motor would you recommend for a m110 in that setup? (with a 9.6v batt)

you could still potentially have overspin. I have no experience with the Matrix but I'd go with a better motor.

edit: didn't realize you are downgrading to an M110. you could be fine with that motor but again, I have no first hand experience with it.

Corbin January 24th, 2011 20:30

Ok, so maybe this G&P M120 then, although its high speed, would that be much of a problem with the 110? And The_silencer, what spring are you using with the m160?
http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_i...ducts_id=32257

THe_Silencer January 24th, 2011 22:47

Get the M120 here instead: http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...oducts_id=1269
Or if you're not in a hurry get it here and pay a total of $31 http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/gandp-ak-...tor-short.html
I'm not going to be holding your hand anymore if you insist on paying more for it at Evike. The spring I'm using gets me arounf 360 FPS so it's around an M100ish. I get around 34ish+ RPS on an 11.1v lipo, more if I'm using my Guarder high speed motor.


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