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Eff that! Now I'm kinda horny. :(
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OMG, that is smoking hot!
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Did you hand polish the stock controls or buy new ones?
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Fitted my polished SD Hi-Capa bull barrel....
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Does that slide have the grooves for a SD barrel bushing?
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it has groove for the TM 1911 bushing.....(which I am not using on my 1911 because of the comp, thats what I was using before). Which Nova makes as well...
I have to say its a very nice slide...just the polished finish is very prone to scratches.... |
I can't wait until mine arrives...
How is it for weight? Light? |
its pretty light. With what I had before with the Nova barrel the gun is much lighter than my monster 1911. With the stainless Bull barrel it brings it back up a bit. The guiderod bushing included in the frame and slide set is aluminum as well. I swapped them out with my SD unit because I like the weight. But if I were to turn this into a full race build I might go back to using the lighter items....
trying on the PDI comp for size... http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3325586b.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3325586c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3325586d.jpg |
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Wow that looks absolutely amazing
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Did you mill out that slide? WICKED !!!!
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That looks wicked. I can't believe you did that to such an expensive kit... lol
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it needs to be cleaned up a bit, and atm it does not cycle properly...but I think its working out ok...
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that's a lot of money to potentiall screw up. But kudos man it looks incredible. :) |
stop making such great guns, I have no money to build one that looks half as good as the guns you build! btw, great job on this. I'd have been to afraid to mill the slide but I think it worked out perfect.
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polished the chamfer edge....which is I think what the real steel has...
http://sviguns.com/photo_gallery/72.jpg It also help me to hide some blemishes I got from the milling and deburring operation... http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3326538a.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3326538b.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3326538c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3326538d.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3326539a.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3326539b.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3326539c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3326539d.jpg |
WOW JUST FUCKING WOW
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look, im pretty low on sex thingies and stuff
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oh my.... that is one beauty of a pistol now man, great job with the milling and polishing
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thanks for the comment....I am quite pleased with how this is going, as this was a complete impulse buy and going in with no plan what so ever(my 1911 on the other hand was always kinda planned to be like that, and so was this Hi-Capa's original form). Impulse buy for the kit when I saw it on Redwolf, then when I saw the real steel's barrel setup I thought I could pull off something like that and just went for it.......
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Nice work. Tempting, how many options
there are for the TM Hicaps... That slide and frame remind me of the WA Expert 5", with the frame following the slide taper. I noticed the custom milling hit the rail a bit... any plans to correct it? Sand it? |
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mounting optics, the milled lines seems to have just nicked the rail 3 times. Not too noticeable but would be nicer without those blemishes. |
I didn't mill anything other than the hybrid cut....the slide and frame came as a set...
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3324694d.jpg and the same cut exist in real-steel, though don't mind the polished lowerframe, as I don't have faith in my ability to reproduce that....:D http://sviguns.com/photo_gallery/67.jpg |
Ahhh I see. I'm not familiar with all
the TM stuff. But that is a sweet kit. Tis' a small shame the factory didn't leave the rail unmarked. Nice work on your part though :) |
Safx, theres one available for your Western Arms as well: http://www.prog4.com/db/product-show.asp?refno=AR1429
The difference with the western arms version compared to the marui one, is that it comes with the hybrid cut and outer barrel, anodized gold too. |
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The hybrid cut is nice... lightens the slide and lightens your wallet too! |
holy shitballs batman RM! That thing is a work of art.....kudos...
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I just can't believe it's almost twice the cost of the non-hybrid cut one....and all thats extra is the included barrel...
I almost wish they sell a seperate barrel though... and btw they also sell one without rail or the hybrid cut, but with polished top and lower... |
Ahh fuck balls. Thanks for the temptation Dave!
Damn that site, I was avoiding it... thinking they only made stuff for the TM's That price is high enough to keep me at bay til' I finish my Kimber's. Brian, I'm pretty sure the SCW2 WA set-up won't work with the TM mags, or the internals. The SCW2 use a hammer that's connected to the firing pin and the frame is cut for it. Also the WA mags hold open there own valves, not the frame. It would be a waste of time and money to try and make that kit work on a TM, you'd end up building a WA in the end. |
I think what he meant is that ProG4(and whoever their supplier is) is making the kit available in both TM and WA system....I've seen the WA version of it from someone on Trader's Airsoft. And I have the TM version of the kit, and afaik the Airsoft Surgeon and ProG4 are supplied from the same machine shop, the difference being AS's kit is sold through Redwolf and have CL## on the frame for serial # of the kit....
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Gah. I want one now, but then i'd just be copying your style. Gotta keep my eye out for new goodies and different ideas. Curse you!
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No dude, those milled lines on the front of
the slide and frame are "over milled" on the real and the replica. Wouldn't you want the lower edge of the rail free from those tiny nicks where the tool just went a little too far? It would be different if the lines extended in an obvious way through the frame instead of stopping with little gouges. They look like a mistake, and probably are. |
http://www.prog4.com/db/product-show.asp?refno=AR1429
"For WA R-Type, WA SCW 2, WA SCW 3 and Marui" I really think they would make the same style slide/frame/barrel, but under different system....they sell mostly WA stuff to start, then they start carrying the same style lower frame as Redwolf's AS stuff for TM, I think they make parts for both..... |
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only one who sees those tiny nicks in the rail as not intentional enough to stand out like part of the design? I'm a designer myself, I work with all kinds of print, web and products. So when I see things like that, it looks to me like the milling tool wasn't able to clear the top half of the rail without nicking the bottom. An obvious choice would have had the groove go straight through the rail, to look more intentional. If I were to buy that setup, I'd have to file down the nicks on the rail and repaint it so its smooth. |
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so believe what you will. I didn't say the frame and slide were cut in one pass, that's not the point. Of course the real steel was cut that way on purpose. My point is it's aesthetically bad if it's just a nick and not obvious enough to look intentional. The real steel is flawed. KSC replicated the USP, and they have the same trigger flaw as the real steel. Which is wrong and bad. They should have taken the opportunity to make an improvement. |
That's awesome! Very nice.
I'd agree with SafX on the tiny nicks on the rail. Also, I'm not sure if it's the same on real steel...but it often seems like the slide is too far forward (i.e. 0.5mm) and non-horizontal cuts that pass through both the slide and the frame end up not matching up when you let the slide go forward under it's own power...which is a real shame. Incredible amount of work that went into it and well done though. Takes guts to do that and takes even more guts to post it up for kudos and criticisms. Tys |
yeah the grooves don't line up perfect. I noticed that the first time I put it together and I have no idea what can I do to address that. The slide just travel to the furtherest forward point it can and then stop there, which I guess is dictated by where the lugs on the barrel meets the slide, OR where the loading nozzle meets the hop-up. I think the slide more or less sits at the same spot regardless what setup I have, I mean I always have a bit of rail sticks out the back of the slide on the hammer side, and that doesn't seem to change before when I have my SD slide or now with the AS set....
I might have been able to mill my hybrid slot a little bit short so that the slide bottoms out on the exhaust port, but that'd mean the piece will stick out a tiny bit up front. And when I had the slide on the mill I definitely was not thinking about that.....:D personally I don't mind how the grooves are executed on the kit, I see having them going slightly over the rail as keeping some sort of continuity going, since the 3 grooves are the defining feature of this slide/frame combo, use them as a character lines that overrides any other feature just emphasize on the stylistic choice of putting those grooves there in the first place.... |
It looks freaking bad-ass. I'd never use it though...I would just scratch and bang the crap out of it.
I really like the detailed vertical cuts on the rear sides of the slide...just beautiful. And the recessed groove along the top edge of the slide where it hits the rear sight. Just a hair more so it was flush with the sides of the bomar sight would have been sweet (but the sight probably wouldn't hold then...it wouldn't be held on by much). I couldn't see it in the pics...but did you do anything to the rear of the slide and sight? i.e. horizontal lines? My slides do the same thing...if you let it forward gently you can get it to stay...but mine is usually a little forward, with, as you said, a little frame rail sticking out. Maybe Illusion or MadMax knows a fix. Doesn't bother me...but then again, I beat the sh*t out of my working stuff. |
As long as you like it, that's all that matters.
And your work is amazing. I may get a kit as well from those guys. I could remove those nicks, or dremmel them larger to continue the lines better. I had an issue before with a slide not sitting perfect, I believe it was where the slide stop hole is cut that dictates your match-up with the inner barrel/recoil assembly. |
http://sviguns.com/ph/?indx=130
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Updates, again(is that the sound of runaway money in the background?)
I've replaced the stock controls now with the Nova Stainless items, the only thing thats left is stock mag release(which I am keeping), and stock slide catch(which I am waiting to go home and get my Nine-Ball one from ILLusion). And I've also replaced the Tanio-Koba grip with the SD Real Pistol. I am not too impressed with the grip from a fit standpoint. The magcatch sticks quite a bit right now, and it does not like the Nova beavertail. I had to work it a lot with a file to get it to fit and it still sticks a bit now. And it doesn't feel as good as the TK grip. But it does look awesome. Only part I am waiting for now is a black magwell from ProG4. As a sidenote, I've lost all the pix I got in the last 4 month due to a catastrophic failure of my HDD. The HDD is replaced under warranty, but the data is gone...so in effect these pix are the only pix I have of my guns since I moved to US at the moment.... http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3328920a.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3328920b.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3328920c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3328920d.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3328921c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3328921d.jpg |
That looks pretty close to my current build - same stainless controls - I have the black STI magwell (Airsoft Surgeon version, with the 2-tone cut in it.)
My kit is serial CL 05 Just waiting on the gold oxidized AET barrel... mehehehe. I definitely like the look of the SD pistol grip, though. Matches MUCH better. |
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This thread makes me want to cry. Everytime it's being viewed, the 5.1 gets a dollar for each view.
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suppose if there were, adding material to get more....:D http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3329063d.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...3/3329062b.jpg |
Oh man.. godlike... I love that so much.
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That hybrid barrel looks awesome with it.
Here's where mine's at so far: http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof...9/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof...4/original.jpg Some work still needs to be done to the grip - it's not fitting well at the moment and I want to round out the mag well. RM, what recoil spring are you using? I installed the Airsoft Surgeon 140%, but it feels much heavier than the Guarder 150%. I'm not getting a full blowback cycle on each shot either. The slide won't lock back. I'll see what happens when I swap down to a Guarder 150%. |
Holy! Sweet hammer!
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wow, i say you need two of those just for the sheer omg factor if you puled out both in a gunfight XD
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and finally it comes out, Brian's own SV...:D
I am currently using the Guarder spring, and I am also not getting full cycle out of the slide. It CAN do it, but I basically have to give it a generous amount of silicone oil on the slide, the spring guide, and basically all the moving parts....It shoots plenty hard, just not locking back on empty..... How is your front sarration lining up with the frame? Mine is off by like 1-2mm with the slide sitting further forward...not sure whats the cause....and is your beavertail pinned? or is it just stuck? I think SD and Nova parts really don't like eachother....I had lots of trouble with my 1911 too with the SD barrel and Nova slide.... |
Did you have to modify the rail to allow your TLR-1 to fit?
I found the rail "notch" to be too thin for my TLR-2 and required modding. On another note, I've already destroyed my slide. The walls that push the chamber forward got bashed to sh!t in less than 3 mags of firing. I was using a ProG4 one-piece stainless steel outer barrel and an Airsoft Surgeon 140% spring. For 140%, that spring is incredibly strong - much stronger than a Guarder 150%. I think that may have been the cause. Anyways, the barrel doesn't return to battery properly now and the slide over runs the chamber. Makes the slide useless... ugh. I'll have to find a solution similar to Carl's with the barrel bushing that allows the slide to engage and "pull" the outer barrel forward. Prior to the destruction, I was also having a hard time getting it to lock back. I could get it to lock back on the first couple of shots, but not on the latter shots. Movement was friction-free... so I'm not sure what the problem was. The stroke was definitely ending early. Unfortunately, the slide was damaged prior to me being able to swap the stock recoil spring in to see if that would solve the problems. My front serration is lining up perfectly with the frame. I had to do a bit of filing to the mid-frame to allow my Nova beavertail to install properly. |
If you notice in my TLR-1 pic the allan screw on the leftside is missing, because I took the notch on the light out(it is removable). It is now just clamped on.
I do notice some deformation on that area of the slide behind the chamber. SD's slide that portion is a lot beefier than the AS one. I do think though runnin the Hybrid barrel helps me in that regard since it now acts somewhat as a stop from slide overtravel. My lock-back is not reliable. It can lockback on a fresh-ish fill mag but definitely not near the end. No issue feeding or shooting just not locking back everytime. It also doesn't seem to do it on the last shot, it sometimes does it one shot after the last BB... Still no idea why mine sits forward of the frame a little bit. But it seems to be doing this since my first iteration of this gun... |
well, barring some unforeseen impulse buy, I think I'll call this one as done....My black magwell came today....good time to start focus on the other one, as well as get some more practice in with this one...
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Is that Magwell from Redwolf or direct from ProG4?
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Yeah where can I get a magwell like that. Black ones aren't too easy to come by.
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I have some on the way.
Can get with silver groove cut in the side (for style... it looks good) with STI markings (on the bottom) or blank with no groove and no markings. Can also get custom markings. http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof...9/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof...4/original.jpg |
Sweet! Is that the Airsoft Surgeon hammer on that?
PS, would definitely buy one with some Strayer Voight insignia, or something along those lines. |
Yes, that's AS hammer. I can also get that for you. (sorry, wasn't ignoring your PM. Just catching up on a huge load of PMs right now and seeing new posts - been busy with work lately.)
Sorry for the threadjack, RM. btw, I paid for your custom parts today. Expect 30 day delivery time. Looks like you'll have some new presents under the tree from SantaILLusion. :D |
Beautiful.. Oh and no worries, I know how it is. You have been busy for the past few weeks. This can get to be a crazy time of year for most.
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sweet, thats good to hear....
I got the magwell direct from ProG4....I ordered that before I got around to check with you. They ended up delaying around 2 weeks since they were out of stock... |
OPS 6"
3 Attachment(s)
TM 5.1
SD Dual tone Ops slide First SAS Kit Guarder Tanio Koba Grip + trigger set First Long Slide stop WE outer Barrel King Arms Dot Sight SD Dot sight plate |
Sweet looking gun. I was thinking about one of those Docter sights for my Hicapa as well. Looks really good on there.
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I think he is saying that if you want to use a RDS on the pistol you might as well get a fixed sight mount as opposed to mounting the RDS on the rear sight which will still move with the slide. I think ILLusion talked about that on his build thread, about how its more difficult to get the advantage of the RDS on the followup shot.
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It definitely makes initial target acquisition faster than a frame mounted scope base, but double-tapping with a sight mounted to the slide is a bit harder.
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I've only had my SD RDS sight base fit one slide properly (i.e. no slop or wiggle) so far.
It's not too bad for acquiring a sight picture...and following up for doubles or triples. But it does take some getting used to since the dot seems to "jump" around. It also seems to float in "nothing-ness", in that there aren't any reference points to line things up. With a RDS on a rifle, the 3rd contact point is the stock in your shoulder...no such thing with a pistol and it takes quite a bit of getting used to. Put it this way...I've tried the SD base/docter sight out on three builds...and now it's sitting in the parts bin. If I put optics on my pistol...I'm going for a side mount with an integrated aimpoint ring. I'm struggling with putting optics on at all...95+% of the time I don't even remember looking at my iron sights, and then there's the long/aimed shots where the comfort/familiarity of iron sights (fiber optic fronts) is really nice. Optics are probably going to f*ck me up for a while until I adjust. |
Another issue with slide mounted RDS is the added weight to the slide. I'd like to try an RDS with a frame mount, I, for sure, am grabbing an RDS for my CAPS rifle setup.
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You're welcome to try my setups out. I think I'm going to stick with frame mounted optics from now on (if I'm using optics at all.)
If you're still running a stock Marui Hi-Capa 5.1 mid-frame, Shooters Design makes probably the best easily dropped-in mount base. No additional drilling/tapping required, but you are required to use the Marui 5.1 frame. |
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=O Getting ready for CAPS now huh!?! Yay!!!
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I wish I can make the 12th, but for sure I'll be in for the 30th....Too bad Huang don't carry belt, I had to get the CR Speed's belt....but his mag holder and holster is pretty nice.
now to sort the setting...:D |
I have to admit... I bit your style. Slides sent off to manufacturer today to have them cut to fit a sight tracker barrel. :D
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Are you getting the gold sight tracker barrel with silver topside like the rear deal?
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Hmm... I didn't clarify the silver top-side... at this point, I'm content with all gold. I should probably lace down a couple of diamonds along the track...
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That's just a sick setup...nice!
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I love this gun! i want one so bad to put in a display case (shelf queen) but im not verified yet :(
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Ohh i know that.. .im willing to upgrade it!
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how much does it cost to cut off your slide so that it would fit the hybrid outer barrel. If affordable, I would like to cut off my slide also. and whats the procedure? just tell the manufacturer that you would like your slide to be cut off? FYI: I have shooters design shpd 2 tone slide |
he sent them back to the manufacturer(ProG4).
I bought a $50 mill bit and did it at work. Its a simple operation. If you can get a machine shop to do it it's probably like a 15 min job... |
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I have a relationship with the manufacturer, so the price I paid can not be disclosed. You will have to discuss this project with your machinist. |
So the ProG4 trigger and trigger stirrup got here, so I took the oppotunity to clean up the gun and repolish some parts to take pic....also installed is the ILLusion Custom stainless slide catch. The new trigger and stirrup seems to give me the same amount of slack in trigger pull without needing to resort to my electrical tape tuning. Though it has more vertical play. I did endup using electrical tape to shim out the vertical play. I'll tryout this setup with my other Hi-Capa when it gets back from C-More fitting and see if its a tolerance stackup issue with the SD grip vs Marui Grip.
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No way! You're actually going to turn this into an open division gun?
You're going to drill the limited edition frame?! D: |
No I have a second Hi-Capa that's being built as an open gun....but I am swapping the trigger setup between them to see how it works on a stock grip....and yes that one is having a C-more mounted....
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