Trollcrusher 1-1, cleared hot, running in.

http://airsoftcanada.com/picture.php...pictureid=3533

Mmmm bacon flavored bacon, tastes just like bacon.

dont lock the thread, i wanna know more about this life changing bacon jam!

Good effect on target.

My attempt to redeem this turkey of a thread..

http://www.thenerdsignal.net/wp-cont...con_turkey.jpg

Great way to cure a healthy heart..

Bacon jam, where might one acquire this heavenly concoction? Bacon Jam and Peanut Butter Sandwiches.

I am going to buy all of Jay's inventory and future production capacity of bacon jam and repackage it as a distraction device. Throw a tiny jar of that in a room and everyone will fight to dive upon it. Imagine the chaos caused by a Tornado grenade optimized to shot blobs of that all over a room.

no a bacon scented tornado, everyone runs toward it then bam, 6mm hurtstorm

Holy shit, Wildcard, really?

We needs a recipe fer dat.
Would you ship bacon jam for (x)$ via paypal +3%?

I do hope that Manchovie can chime in and tell his side. I'm curious how the two stack up against each-other.

Manchovie has briefed a few of us on his side of the story. There is no need for him to speak here. This guys asshattery has shown itself in his posts and more than one ASC'er has figured out the holes in his story.

His lack of fundamental communication skills alone is responsible for half the issues with the deal. Add to that threatening calls from an irate parent and you can start to see how Manchovie got boxed into a bad deal.

I can assure everyone he did his best to make all parties happy and got the short end of the stick on parts and labour. Even on his worst day, Manchovie could never fuck up a deal this badly.

It's this kind of BS that makes good gun docs rethink doing work for anyone. It hurts the community when it happens.

Thanks BT.

I always get a little pissed off when people start slamming gun docs. I've had a couple (Poncho is famous for this, although Manchovie did it once for me as well) who actually stop playing entirely to deal with some malfunctioning piece of kit, and hand off their working AEG to me so I can play while they fixed my shitty rifle.

So not only do they sacrifice their play time to fix my gun, they handed me a working gun so I didn't have to fix mine.

Unsung heroes of the sport, they are.

Bdot...I've read your whole post...and all the others...and all of this thread.

I've also heard Bartek's side of things a while ago.

I've known of him (when I started he was the mystical AEG fixer guy in the corner...) for years...and he's a top notch stand up guy.

You, on the other hand, sound like an miserable ass.

If you ever get back on ASC and read this...I'm sure that there's more than a few guys who've made note of you and who'll have nothing to do with you.

I had to deal with all kinds of issues like the above when working on people's guns, often seemed to be something new pops up (such as an airleak) that takes time to sort out. Custom wiring jobs were a nightmare, and it's true the MP5s take a long time to disassemble/reassemble, so literally a full assemble is required to simply test fire to see if the last attempt at a fix solved the problem. If not, back apart it goes.

I think the OP was expecting the work to be a quick and simple thing, sometimes it is, no more than a couple hours tops, but when you get finicky parts and troublesome guns, it becomes a nightmare for the person working on it, and updates on "This isn't working out with this part" are commonplace.

I'm so glad I got out of the airsoft technician business. :)

This is how my mother has cooked turkey ever since I can remember.

Hehe, I just realized this is the goon I had to illustrate 'Holding a 12v battery' for.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...12vbattery.png

Was I right :D?

"Patience is a virtue"

When my gun broke down, I first TRIED to fix it myself. After a month of no success, I spent another 2 weeks putting it back together, then took it to a gun doc. The gun doc spent about a month or so before I could get it back. Cost: $50 + $18 for some parts and stuff.

Total elapsed time without working gun: 2 and a half months.

Geez, calm down, there are some really tricky problems sometimes, but all it takes is time.
In fact, the guy I went to told me "call back in 2 weeks", I did, there was some complication, so I called back again in another 2 weeks. Guess what, it was finished and fired right and everything. Tested it on site and left, no problems.

Reading through this whole thread, I think that you, Bdot should have been less impatient and smarter. As in, TEST IT ON SITE TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS. On the other hand, I don't understand why a reputed gun doc would give you back a broken gun.

Many many times a "fixed gun" works fine when tested by the gun doc before it is delivered and "breaks" shortly thereafter

it's happened to me countless times.. sometimes there is an underlying problem that remains diagnosed .. Sometimes new parts fail, sometimes.. it just happens.

it's not the fault of the Tech.. these are toy guns pushed to the limit of performance .. and often beyond.. sometimes they just fly apart..

The best strategy when dealing with Gun docs is to take them the gun.. Tell them when you need it done, ask if that is reasonable .. and then forget about it until you are called and told it is done. The go pay the bill in cash, round up to the nearest $10 ..

and if it breaks again shortly thereafter.. repeat the process.. sometimes the gun Doc will give you a break on the second fix.. but it should not be expected.

WOW!! Glad someone gave him a vacation.

My mother uses salt pork instead of bacon. Its thicker so it doesnt burn and is oh so good.

Airsoft guns are toys. Expensive, complicated and sometimes delicate toys.

They are made up of a bunch of small parts (metal and plastic) that are moving about at high speed under significant loads. Very few but the highest end parts are structurally sound. Many parts look the part, but are not made with durability in mind.

So...the base fact remains that they can (and often do) break suddenly...and if they don't break down completely, they will wear out eventually.

There are a number of ways to "hedge" your bets on wear and tear...and setting up a gun to last as long as possible. But again...due to the parts and materials used, they may just simply fail with the next trigger pull.

I agree 100% that when you pickup your gun from your gun doc that YOU should satisfy yourself 100% with all aspects of your gun. Fit/function/etc...

When you leave with your gun...it's yours 100%...with the good and the bad. Anything less is he-said-she-said.

When dealing with a gun doc you're buying:
1. Their sum total of knowledge
2. Their access to parts
3. Their best efforts

If you insist of substandard parts, rushed timeframes, and not testing it yourself when "it's all done"...then YOU fail on ensuring that the best job can be done in the first place.

I've got a guy on his way to drop off his gun right now. He wants it working for this Friday/Saturday's games. I have no idea what's wrong with his gun...what it will take to get it working again...how long it'll be. Haven't seen it. I'll explain these very things to him and if he can't deal with it, I'll show him the way out. It's truly not worth the couple of bucks for the potential headaches.

exactly...

I asked a gundoc for a repair and upgrade on my Scar... I asked him maybe 2-3 updates in a 3 months of him having possession of my toy.
Never rush somebody who is taking HIS time to fix YOUR shit period... just be happy he ever did it !

Let's not neglect the heritage of the two AEGs in question.

Now a lot of this will be speculation but I'm a pretty good guesser at times.

First is the "custom built" Troy, Magpul etc. Who built it and why isn't he fixing it? Second is the TM MP5; usually as reliable as a Timex.

The guys with the AEGs weren't members on here so not from the classifieds. He says he works at McDonalds so he's probably not loaded. So these two are the typical craigslist shankers that have been used hard, put away wet and then dumped on the first unsuspecting & ignorant person to reply to the ad.

Contrast that with someone who signed up on here, took the time to be age verified (which is free, it just costs time) and then was able to buy here, either new or used. There are sales that go bad here but I think the quality of the product and the support of the community make that risk minimal.

So for anyone who's new and wondering if getting that AV tag under your user name is worth it you can be sure that it is.

Bacon Jam:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...m/IMG_1130.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...m/IMG_1125.jpg

It's like spreadable gold. Or sex in your mouth.

Drake: I love that Trollcrusher 1-1 picture.

Where does one get Bacon Jam?

DIY i guess.

How can anyone actually defend this asshole gundoc?

I really don't care if he is your friend or if he's been a long time member here, he acted like it wasn't his problem BUT when he took this job, he made it his problem. He had their guns for weeks at a time without responding to any messages and had to be 'bothered' by the client for his services? The way I see it he is just taking advantage of people who don't know any better, the exact same way someone took advantage of me when I bought a used gun in Ottawa, tossing shit parts in there and telling me to go to a gundoc to fix them when the crappy parts failed...

Now that I actually know how to fix up guns myself I would never trust you 'gundocs' who are just looking to make a buck off people, instead of actually fixing up a gun & helping out a fellow player. With a gun taking an evening to take apart and swap brand new parts into, I see NO reason why he couldn't do this in a week, as I think he is no likely undertaking 50 guns before Christmas.

Loblaws black lable has bacon marmalade
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Whoa, easy there cowboy.....

Slow down broskie, don't want you getting too close to the angry mob, flame spreads fast.

This is a pretty accurate summery of the events above:

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Minefield.gif

Which he was clearly doing, at something like $17 an hour.

Which it is clear he has a history of doing whenever he has the time


Plus ordering parts in. Plus debugging the issue through trial and error.

Because this is clearly his full time job and all his evenings are guaranteed to be free.


I will grant Bdot one thing. Gundocs should all have a disclaimer that says, "If you're paying me bottom dollar, do not expect your project to take over my life." One of the big issues at play here is unrealistic expectations.

i take it you would let a certified mechanic work on your car, if you dont use gundocs good for you, some of use like the quality of the work they do and its a load off of us they will fix our guns while we do something else, if you missed it before he most likely had to order the parts gun docs dont have a rack full of every part for every gun, and he does have a reason its a not a full time job he already has a full time job being a gun doc is not tax deductible so gun docs do it when they feel like it they have other priorities first: family, job, personal time, prior obligations, then comes fixing guns

You can make all the excuses you want for him, but the fact remains, he took over 2 months to do this, and for that I pass judgment on him. I see no justification for it taking that long. No part order takes that long, even from HK, just got a piston from there in 9 days... There is no way he didn't have a free weekend or weekday evening to get these 2 guns done.

If you take your car to the dealership to get your car fixed I pity you for being caught in the same scamming bs that this gundoc is pulling, but on a much more grand scale. My entire point is that they don't do quality work & prey on the people who don't have the knowledge of gun repair. You think I've never ordered a gun part before? Takes 3 days TOPS for ASP to ship out to me and 2-3 weeks from HK for parts. Your last point is too much for me, his prior obligation is fixing the gun, when he took it in with the intention of fixing it for pay. If you run a business I will be sure to avoid it, judging by your poor approach to clientèle.

Buddy You need to see and understand the whole thing before you open up a can of worms and if we want to take advantages of new players I'll charge a buttload of money whenever i loan my shit out to nubs like you who can't comprehend the basics of how an AEG works, there are guys that have posted on this thread that have gave their shit out no questioned asked or drop their playing time to fix a fellow airsofter gun without any compensation and sometimes not even so much of a thank you, Who the hell are you to judge this gun doc? or any other people in this thread? Fuckin Nubtards like you that have a year under their belt n this hobby with the know it all attitude needs to understand the basics, shut up and listen before they open up on matters that they don't understand or have knowledge on.

obviously you are one of the ones that lives on airsoft. people have lives and families if you think your gun is more important then their family you are sadly mistaken, 9 days for your piston thats over a week what if the desired part was not in stock it would take probably another week for it to come in so 2 weeks to order one part, and if he didnt know he needed a part it would have to be ordered first so it could take up to 2.5 weeks for 1 part

if you would give up your weekend to fix a gun good for you

really? have you even read the OPs post and all the responses?

the OP knew it would take 2+ months, why else would he tell the gun doc about his vacation when he gave them his guns. texting some one saying "haven't heard anything in 2 weeks any update" when you know he hasn't even looked at it is a dick move.

if you have the skills to do it yourself, awesome, but don't bitch about the way gun docs do work. you may have one gun to work on and you are willing to sit down and burn threw it in an evening, but a gun doc can have more than 10 guns at a time, and still have a life to live.

are you implying gun docs should sacrifice their time and not charge people for it? saying they are trying to just make a quick buck is retarded, because 1) they sacrifice their free time, time they could use to enjoy life, to help others who can't/wont work on their own guns
2) there is nothing quick about working on guns

most reputable gun docs are players first and do gun work on the side, they will put down their gun in a game to get yours up, so the game can go on.

its people like the OP and you who come at it with the wrong attitude, that make gun docs want to get out of that line of work.

Unlike you most of us do have Jobs and lives other than Airsoft, in fact the gundoc in question Bartek do have three jobs. parts can come in less than a week, during Christmas time my order from Polar star (in the U.S) took over three weeks to arrive explain that Genius? Fair warning unless you know the whole situation BACK OFF!

If someone wanted me to do something for parctically nothing, complain and harass me the entire time, then have other people try to bully me into paying back money rightfully earned, for a headache no one should have to endure, I would most certainly fix a gun for someone like Bdot, or yourself.

Do you have any concept of the idea of why gundocs exist? because they are the best at what they do. The argument you suggest is that helicopter pilots are ripoff artists, because anyone can do what they do, and they could do it better, for free.

Some fucking people.

That stuff is crap compared to wildcard's bacon jam. I've tried both. Wildcard's bacon jam, hand's down.

OK but what about us normies that don't have the option of eating Wildcard's goodies?

If you had never had Wildcard's jam would you recommend it?

Sure. Just because it's bacon. :D

It will do in a pinch.

It's like... if I absolutely HAD to play airsoft, and I couldn't get my hands on a premium gun, I'd settle with a crappy China made clearsoft gun, just so I could sling some BBs downrange. But the difference between Wildcard's Bacon Jam vs President's Choice Bacon Marmalade, is literally like a fully macked out PTW vs a McDonald's straw.

Anyways, this thread has started to expire. manchovie or OP, if you want to post something in here, report the thread or PM one of the mods/admin, and we'll unlock it for you to post.

bdot feels he has some important input for this thread, so I've unlocked it for now.

If I see it degrade again, I WILL lock it until either the OP or Bartek wish to say something.

Guys like the OP are the reason I stopped doing guitar tech work and why I will NEVER do gun doc work even though I'm more than capable of it when it comes to AEGs. There isn't enough money in the world to make that kind of trouble worth it.

next derail post gets 1 day ban for every letter in his post

go ahead, test me

This thread was a very interesting read, all i could do is feel bad for the poor gun tech who seemingly had 2 customers who, i guess assumed this was his life and full time job and felt that they were entitled to the fast service they are accustomed to. So funny how some of us forget that, i can see this being annoying for retailers and age verifiers as well.

We all have lives, jobs, family and doing things on the side although make seem like a favor for someone may not to others...patience is a virtue. If you don't give someone a deadline upon surrendering your goods for repair then dont call back later and say "yah this needs to be done by this time" lesson learned to the op hopefully.

Drake, it looks like the op has nothing new to add....throw'er in to lockdown

Not according to the PM he'd sent to me, bitching and moaning about why I locked his thread while he was on his forced "time out" from the forum...

He'd also accused me of banning him (I didn't), and went on a rant about how the forum supports bad business by not taking care of his problem. Actually, we *don't* support bad business, which is why he's getting the treatment he got. As a bad customer, HE IS the bad business. This thread, and his PM to me were proof of his personality type. I sure as hell wouldn't ever do business with him.

unless the OP has some rediculus new evidence or better yet, an apology, this thread should actually be deleted or moved deep deep into the pit, not just locked. as much as I am sure a reputable gun doc loves to have a thread with his name being smeared by a child in the general section of the forum, i think we have more than proved that manchovie has not done anything wrong. We should take this down so we don't discourage new members from using him as a gun doc (although after this i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't take any new peoples guns)

That is exactly manchovies point. If everyone defending him in this thread had to deal with him directly they would soon realize why he is the problem and NOT manchoivie.

Man, you'd think it was clear I did it if he bothered reading the thread, I even made than Ban Reaper Drone image and everything.

I feel my work here is very under appreciated :(

and i thought that was the most amusing part of the entire thread! would have loved to take credit for it, but i just couldnt do it...

He stole your kill mate.

So... why was this re opened again?

Thanks for the good read guys.

He'd PM'ed me complaining about why his thread was closed. The assumption was made that he must have something important to add, so I opened it again for him to post whatever he had to say. Looking at his status, he hasn't been online since he sent me that PM, so give him a couple of days.

I did explain to him that I locked it to prevent it from further derailing and to prevent his name from being continued to drag through the mud... which I knew would happen if I re-opened the thread, and that's exactly what happened. Him creating this thread did him no favours. He apparently failed to see this, which shows how closed his mind is.

Bartek is considering posting in here, but I think his silence is golden, as the OP is showing his true colours. In any case, Bartek will consider posting, and if/when he does, you'll see the additional facts that the OP decided to conveniently leave out.

This right here just proves that you people you only want to see what you want to see. First of all, I didn't complain to you iLLusion, I wanted a reason why I got banned other than needing to 'take a bread'... and why the only mod commenting on here thought bacon was more important. I realize I came off a little pissed, but having to deal with the bs from manchovie, then to have most of you bash me for being so called pushy and a disrespectful when none of you were even involved in this situation, shows that you need to be some kind of daily poster to get any respect on this site.

I thought 2 months was more than enough time for a 'respected', 'top of the line' gun doc to put a few minor parts in a couple guns. Not only that, but he didn't bother to contact me until a month later other than a couple texts saying he's going to find some time to work on them soon. Then add the fact that he couldn't give us a deadline or quote til more than a month after, going over the deadline twice, then giving me a broken gun with half of the work not done that he said and we paid for him to do all while trying to deny he broke it and did everything he said when after we went to get it fixed and they explained all the problems with it. Starting with not letting us test fire them at his house other than a couple dry shots per gun, which he told us wasn't good for the gun so not to do anymore untill we get home with bb's.

I never said one disrespectful thing to this guy until I got our broken gun back. I wasn't even disrespectful to him after he lied to us several times and missed the first deadline. Which was more than enough time for him at the very least to start on them. If he was really that busy 24/7 for a month straight which i doubt for a month he wasnt sitting at home playing with his own guns for hours, why not tell us that you don't have a couple hours to start on them in the first place and not make us sit and wait day after day with no response. You all say gun docs have lives and family's and other stuff to do, while like a lot of you already said you can easily look on the internet and find a video of how to work on these guns. These gun docs have obviously done this before and should have made the time to work on a new gun before they decided to take on a new customer. Not only that but these are TOYS they are working on not some science experiment. And some of you say you charge up to $80/hr?? That's a complete joke and its sad you even think your work is that valuable, your not a doctor or even a gunsmith for that matter.

It seems like a lot of you take this as serious as your life, although you say you have one outside of airsoft. Especially when you all had more than enough time to post meaningless replies on a 'noobs' thread at 3 in the morning like you all did. All of this while never hearing one word from manchovie. Its funny that you go look at his profile and just decide to side with him because hes got some good feedback and revolves his life around airsoft. Or maybe I should take that last part back because he sure didn't seem to care about my business, and you all start to think im contradicting myself again. Its nice to see my thread made to warn others of a "good gun doc" taking advantage of new members, NOT to try and convince people like him how he conducted his poor business, turned into a shitshow with a bunch of crying.

Hopefully the lesson you have taken from all of this is to learn how to work on your own guns. I've never paid for gun doc services, got someone to show me how to install a set of gears for a beer, and all self taught after that. Installing upgrades/servicing/troubleshooting is not really all that difficult once you get your feet wet.

Did you get the last of the sand out of your vagina yet, or is it ok to close this down again?

Like!

I don't think any good will come of this just close it and let this be lost in the records of crap. He is obviously pissed and feels it cannot be getting any worse so he feels he needs to continue to rant about this 'injustice'. Lets do everyone a favor and lock it. When manchovie is ready to post unlock it let him post and re-lock it. You can read still and your opinion will be made regardless of weather you post it or not.

As for someone who works on airsoft guns, your minor work on the guns still require the same effort of most major part replacement. You still need to take the whole gun apart and disassemble the mechbox. It doesn't matter if you are only changing a spring. The same work is required if you wanted all new internals (other than shimming).

Like most people have also said, parts break. Most than once, Ive worked on my augs and they will be in working order. Come game time, i give it a few runs at the range and something gave out. Shit happens. You are dealing with plastic and thin metal parts under a lot of stress.

Hell, 2 weeks ago i replace a loading nozzle on a hi-capa for a buddy. It worked fine for me. 6 mags through it and no issues. Gave it back to the owner in working order. 1 week later at our game, a little into the first mag the loading tab breaks again.

Just learn to work on your own gun. From the looks of it, you wont get any help from ASC. It not hard but as you will find out, it can become a nightmare.

The fact that he only let you dry fire it a few times in his home doesn't make him guilty of ripping you off. You said you dry fired it. Im sure you know what it is suppose to sound like when it fires. If you didn't hear anything there, it is save to say that it was working order when you left his house or when you dried fired it.

Definitely, not going to trust another random guy just because his friends or other just looking at his profile on a website say he's "good"

Now i definitely see whats the problem here, not only are you people ignorant and look over the fact what hes done just cuz hes your friend or well know, but its that you cant read. Thats why you guys come up with the stupidest shit to say and have nothing good to back up this joke, I didnt once say anything in that post showing i am pissed, just pointed out the facts or maybe your just pissed realizing that all the stuff you can think of to say back couldnt deny the fact that any normal person would realize that what he did isnt even considered business but a joke. but if thats all you can say back to it than i now have maybe knocked some common sense in to you people and maybe now you will realize just because this guys so awesome on your website doesn't hide the fact what he does and how he acts outside your little group in the real world.

What i meant was to put a few parts in a gun is a lot simpler and easier than to do a fully internal customization, a lot less problems to worry about. I have had parts last forever and some last a few months, but the fact he said he could only dry fire the gun a few times, than me hearing the rattling piece in the gun a min after showes to me something was broken to begin with. Especially the fact that when i get to put bb's in it they dont go more than 5 feet out of the gun than few shots later it fully stops working. I was pissed for waiting this long and finally getting the gun and not being able to shoot any shots out of it even when i get home and put bb's in it myself, i bet if i got to shoot those few shots at his house it would crap out there, and DEFINITELY would have seen that the bb's couldnt make it across the room, which in the end would have shown it wasnt working when it was still in his house and just left his hands. And i wasnt going to demand to shoot off bb's in his house i was just happy to finally get my gun back and to finally be done dealing with this guy.

Well we already know that dry firing is bad for the gun. Which is why you are only suppose to do it very little.

Hearing the rattle after you dry fired it doesn't mean it was broken to begin with. Was the rattle there before you fired it?

Lets just think about this for a sec. Why would he take apart a mechbox. Break a gear. Then put the mechbox together WITH the broken gear and lose teeth back inside it.

If he was going to hide the broken gear on you, he would have taken it out. Because without that broken teeth loose in the mechbox, it would have fired fine and you would have never known. Its the fact that there was a loose piece in the mechbox and it jamming either the piston or gears was preventing it from doing a complete cycle. And there basically no chance on someone not seeing the broken gear when you open the mechbox because you need to reset most of the internals anyways for timing and the fact that every time you take apart a mechbox shit flies everywhere.

If a gear broke, that means it was going to break sooner or later. It just happen to break at a time where the gun was trading hands from manchovie to you. You can't fault him for that. Im sure if you didn't hound him like crazy to start with he would have been fine with looking at the gun again but since there was such a bad repore with him. He just wanted to end business with you.

Yes it is a pain that you had to wait so long to get the gun back. But if you were in a rush to get it back, you could have picked it up and gone else where. It was always an option. You can't please everyone, so youre the 0.1% bad feedback from him due to tardiness, not bad workmanship.

The only good that can come out of this thread now is hopefully someone with a little more sense than you realizes that there are some fake, ignorant people hiding behind a profile that makes them out to be some good gun doc. Now that a bunch of you have polluted this thread, let alone this website, nobody will even know about my situation once a mod deletes this thread and my feedback again because they dont want one of their precious platinum members reputation being hurt anymore. The fact you say that it should be locked again until manchovie FINALLY decides to stop being a vagina and posts in here for once, then lock it right back up, proves exactly what ive just said. But then when he finally does decide to post, which is going to be lie after lie trying to cover himself up, everyone is just going to believe his fairytale story because hes a 'respected' member and anything against him just cant be true. I found that is exactly the mindset of most of you people the day I posted this thread.

Im done talking about this tonight I have better stuff to do on a saturday night, unlike most of you guys, than try to force some common sense into some people here.

Quite right. You should try them all randomly until you find one that meets your unreasonable expectations.

I'm going to be blunt. Not that it's particularly unusual.

If you are dissatisfied with how you were treated, then that's your prerogative. However, just about everyone here, including many gun techs, believe that based on your own explanation of the events; you in fact are the one being unreasonable.

ASC, the site you're currently on, is the Universe as far as the airsoft community in Canada is concerned. Manchovie's reliability, and contributions to the community, for the sake of this comparison, are on par with those of general relativity within this Universe.

You however, are unknown, have contributed nothing, and are generally irrelevant within the universe of Airsoft in Canada.

Now unless you have something earth-shattering to say that firmly demonstrates why you should be taken seriously, and a well respected member should be thrown under the bus in the process, anything further from you on the subject is just more unsubstantiated crap.

Lastly on the subject, a piece of advice. Either sell your airsoft gear and get into another sport, or learn to fix your own guns. Because after this little demonstration, there's no way in hell that anyone is going to do it for you, for any amount of money.

Is this thread still going?

Wow, went on longer than I thought it would...

Please note that user "Bdot" has been Permabanned.

Enough is enough.

One side has been heard, unless Manchovie choses to add his side to this thread it is not going to be doing anything positive....

Lets keep in mind Bdot may have had a better outcome if he was a more active member IN the community and chose his words and attitude differently. It's as much HOW you post as what you post.

Live and learn everyone.

Carnival is closed.

Turns out I did write "take a bread" -- it was obviously a typo, and should have been "take a break"

Hopefully that makes more sense to you (not that you'll ever read this now)

And for the record, no other reason is needed to issue a time out.