DON'T give him any ideas!!!

Ok Saint, NOW you've gone & done it! Now Deeds is gonna have nightmares for another week.

Nightmare's not so bad, he can choose not to sleep for a week, at the end of which he won't remember this conversation. Or anything at all, for that matter.

What he cannot not do is to avoid toilet paper for a week. Everytime he finishes his business on the crapper, he's going to reach over for some TP and have a traumatic airsoft flashback.

This is true. Never even thought of making grenades out of toilet paper rolls with the toilet paper still on. Hmmm, might be a cool effect.

I have to try it some time. It IS mainly for display but im sure I can rig something up. I do have to admit, its pretty cool. I may have to rig up a cholrine and alcohol mix and throw in some bbs and boom! I dont know, if anything itll be a one time use thing going on. But, if you guys want, ill rig something up. Ha, this may become interesting...

I don't think people would like white spots on their uniform because they got drenched by a chlorine grenade...

I know lets put windex and bleach in a grenade. Then when we toss it at someone we can laugh as they slowly choke to death on chlorine gas. :smack:

Its not a 2L bottle of chlorine. I dont think that they would get drenched in chlorine. But, if I do end up making a couple, ill be sure to test it on if it will stain. You know what, I'll rig one up for you guys before the night is over, possibly throw it in my backyard... Wait, not such a good idea :S...

ROTFLMFAO!!!

Even a spot of chlorine will leave a stain. If it is mixed with something else, I am not to sure what would happen then. Still, I am sure there are enough people who would rather not get it on them at all (let alone anywhere near the face/eye area).

True enough. I'll think of another way to do it. But, I'll still try it.

Oh god. As if I didn't fear the threat of being door knob'ed for necroing.

We use tennis balls and bunker grenades locally. Which gives them a pre-determined area they cover, and you cant really argue with that. However its a much smaller group here.

I hope to never play with anyone using bleach, chemicals, paint, or explosives for improvised grenades in airsoft. :|

OK I am really impressed with my grenade. My girlfriend was in the washroom and I decided it would be a good time to test this sucker out! I opened the door yelled "FRAG OUT" and tossed the grenade in. I was rewarded with a large bang and the tinkly sound of hundreds of bbs bouncing off the walls. But what really impressed me about the grenade is it scared my girlfriend so much she started to cry! So it has passed the scare the sh!t out of the girlfriend test and is ready for the game test! :-D

OMG you didn't actually do that...did you?

How big is the bathroom?

Yet you throw one at your unsuspecting girlfriend in a confined space. Good call.

lmao Nice. But yeah, just be glad it didn't hit her in the eye, though I suspect the human reaction of covering your head might have kept her safe.... Good to know they work well though.

:lol:
Please tell us you have some pictures of this piece. And a video of the action would be cool too, though, don't put your girlfriend through that again - you may not have the means then to reproduce.

But really... :smack:

I really want to get video but I don't have know how or equipment. I have a crappy web cam so I will try to get some amature video going. It will probably look like the video of bigfoot walking through the woods though :-D
O and don't worry about my GF she is well trained, she knew to put her hands over her eyes when I yelled "FRAG OUT!"

Jackel ill bring my digi cam when i come over to your place and get a vid and host it.

Was a team-get-together at Apoc's one day, Ex_Royal went into the can to drop one, forget who it was, Helios or other, tossed in the charge to an Air-Burst firework while he was in there. Guess he needed help getting it out. Lol

Cool thanks Bean that would be very helpful :cheers:

Smile for the camera though cus your the one eating the bb's :D

You have got to be fucking kidding me. Unless you're talking about your girlfriend in the past-tense, as in EX-girlfriend, you're the luckiest man alive. I know girls who would have beaten you to death for that. And they're the cute, little, benign ones. You're equally lucky she didn't take one of those in the eye.
I'm impressed with your resourcefulness and creativity, not so much impressed with your risk/benefit discrimination.

Musta been one of those bathrooms where the toilet is behind a semi wall or something. :D

If I did that, I'd be single in no time. Which would allow me more game time, more road trips, etc. Hell, more money for airsoft gear!!!!!!!

I think we should nominate jackel's girlfriend for some sort of award. :confused:

Am I the only one who thinks throwing a device, that Jackel previously admited could take out an eye within 5 feet, at someone un-prepared in a confined space, with no eye protection, is a completely fucking moronic thing to do? All I see is people posting thinking its a cool idea to get video and do it again - you may all also be semi-retarded in my opinion.

I think flame retardant has been put on his thread, even it it was dumb for him to do what he did. Unless it was pure joke on his part.............

OK ok everyone can calm down she is ok as she was in the shower and there was a rather rigid balistic shower curtain between her and almost certain death. Funny to see how many people got bent out of shape about that post ( thinks to himself that he is sure glad he did not tell the kitten drowning joke). So just to set the record straight, there were absolutley no girlfriends hurt in the production of my grenade. Although I did get a slap in the face!

And here as a peace offering are some pics to drool over!

http://file007.bebo.com/large/2006/0...378595846l.jpg

http://file007.bebo.com/large/2006/0...851243855l.jpg

http://file007.bebo.com/large/2006/0...695824064l.jpg

http://file007.bebo.com/large/2006/0...990724689l.jpg

http://file007.bebo.com/large/2006/0...938443165l.jpg

Set one off in a card board box and show us the box, that'll be a peace offering. We already know what grenades look like. :lol:

It is not going to penatrate corragated cardboard. It will how ever make a very large mess

Oh, pretty please, yes!!

How much and when can you start production?

may not penetrate, but drop it insaide, set it off and cover the top. when done, cut along the seems to reveal all teh indentations in it :)

Dont worry all will be revealed next week when i stop by with my camera.

It is looking like the grenade bodies will be around $30 and the burst tubes will be 3$ ( The bodies will be re-usable while the burst tubes will not).

Über 1337! Gots to try this.

I'd pick up a few in a heartbeat. And I was under the impression from your post she was actually on the toilet, not in the shower. It was still funny, now it's funny and safe :P:D

Haha Jackel you lucky you only got a slap in the face! I would have got a kick in the nuts! I would also be intrestedin your grenade. Keep up the good work.

Here is some rough diagrams that I made to show kinda how they work. And please don't ask if this is theory as I have a working production model.
1 http://file010.bebo.com/medium/2006/...483249335m.jpg
2http://file010.bebo.com/medium/2006/...431832077m.jpg

3http://file010.bebo.com/medium/2006/...346969169m.jpg

lol

What is funny about the diagrams :sad:

So the spoon is attached to the burst tube and when the spoon pops off the tube bursts...?

Does the spoon stay attached to the grenade? Is it part of the body assembly? Or does it come with the burst tube? 'cause I'd like to see some way of having it remain attached to the grenade if it's not replaceable, I'd hate to have to hunt around for a grenade *and* a spoon afterwards.

I should be stopping over at his place tomorrow. So i can get some photo's and all that shnazz then. Will also be picking up mine if i can.

Sweet. Keep us posted :D

Will do im having an informal pistols only game either this weekend or next that ill test it at agaisnt about 6 people.

maybe i didn't notice it, but have people noticed these guy's grenades?

http://www.milsimlabs.com/

kinda interesting

btw Jackel, i think i prefer how yours work better, it took me a bit to get my head around your design, but it looks sound, videos will prove beyond all doubt... looking forward to it....

Ok so i just got back from his house. Jackel is a god. The grenades work awesome and ill get the videos up soon prolly tomorrow morning. He probably wont reply because he has about one zillion bb's on his floor to pick up.

Man, I can't wait to see that video. :nod:

Videos are utter shit but meh.
http://www.dontcamp.com/~deputy/noba...p/100_0814.jpg
http://www.dontcamp.com/~deputy/noba...p/100_0818.jpg
http://www.dontcamp.com/~deputy/noba...ture%20005.MOV
http://www.dontcamp.com/~deputy/noba...ture%20006.MOV

I must say i was really impressed by it and it was quite fun to make a mess of jackels house.

Not to belittle your video skills, but those videos really do leave much to be desired. I can see the grenade popping apart, but no BBs. If you get a chance to do them again, I'd recommend dropping the grenade in a large clear container of reasonable BB-resistance, like a thick glass vase or Gladware something, and just put the camera beside the container.

BTW, Jackel, since the grenade pops apart into two like that, any plans to link them together with a piece of string to ease their recovery post use?

ok I tried my hand at video tapping these buggers with sound on my web cam. The prob that is happening is that the bbs are leaving it really fast and just not being visible on the cam. Well enough talk try this

http://www.zippyvideos.com/608369188...est_1/original

Jackel, that's like a picture of you... Not a video. :lol:

fixed

Its hard to capture cus the bb's move fast and my camera is part of my shitty digi cam. The grenades will be tested at the game on the 29th of this month.

I'd be happy to indirectly observe the BBs if that's the only way you can film them. Take a card board box, cut out as much of the sides as possible and replace them with plain paper held together by masking tape, leaving the box's corners alone for structural support. Rig a grenade to explode inside the box and film the BB impacts against the paper.

that is a good idea I will see what I can do :-D did you check the video link it is working now and has sound

Fuck looks liek i need to visit you again jackel. Well figure out another time to do it.

There's no video, but there's sound. If one turns their volume up, they can clear the BBs clattering against things. It's fair progress. :)

Imagine getting beaned in the face by that at a game >.<

Common sense is maditory when playing airsoft. If you have no common sense you should try another sport like masturbation! :smack:

see if this one works. It should I hope

http://i1.zvhost.com/1/t/tnd0iqed.jpg

SELECT QUALITY OF VIDEO TO (ORIGINAL)

It does work...

Question:

- Is it a delayed BANG, or is it triggered by impact?

it is triggered by impact

Does look preety cool, but yet it's like expensive i can have like 50 big macz wit that money lol. yet their is another type of grenade is called the AHG mabe by like sum spanish peeps it' uses baking soda wit water and citric acid to make a explosion to shoot bb's up ur pants. i got the link,- http://www.airsofthandgrenades.com/AHGenglish/index.htm

I don't think people will want baking soda residue on their gear.

Neat though. I remember seeing their prototype a long time ago. Nice to see them get a final design done.

Mine will be cheaper because it is reusable at 30$ and the AHG is one time use at around (8$). You do the math

More videos!

Wait till the 29th and we will get videos of it in game.

http://www.airsoft-freaks.com/framecode/index.html

this is a good site,they got a realy cool claymore that realy shoots a wave of bb's

*casts Resurrection*

So bean, jackel, what's the word?

OK who kidnapped Jackal and how much do you want for him? I'll pay American!

Its still in the design process. A few minor flaws were found with the grenade design.

That's understandable. I thought perhaps you guys were holding him for ransom, LOL. Glad to see someone working on a useful item for the game.

we had him up for ransom but he singe handedly ate more food thent he ransom was worth let alone the cost of bb's.

Don't feed him garlic then...... If it works on him like it does on me, the pair of us could rule the world with nothing more than a butane lighter or a match!

What are the burst tubes made of and do you make them yourself?

I still prefer less than $2 hand grenades that are disposable (word is the local field has bean sprouts growing where we'd use them) and have a huge impact while being safer than a clear mini shooting 0.12g at close range with a huge bang. Lol, all others seem lame. Of course, that's just me.

Oh the DOW cracked that one a while back, eh Deeds? ;)
Ours do wonders too mouahahah.

Karma already posted about the airsoft grenades on www.milsimlabs.com but has anyone seen the flash bangs there they seem pretty safe but caps are loud and legal.

Wasn't it shared info from Warmongers that DOW benefitted from? Or you talking about something completely different? ;) I recall twice giving Deeds full instructions on the making of cool yet safe grenades. :-)

Yes it was.

It's the way it happened, when I made the first one, I never said where I got the info, and in all the rush for OPQPII, it was never talked about.

http://media.putfile.com/Test-Grenade

Wow. What's the chances of getting these into canada though. I'd love to get a few of those flash bangs. Oh well, wishful thinking I guess.

Why wouldnt they allow them?

Hehe, great stuff! Actually, at one point Iceman asked me about my ides and the grenades, I gave him full info too, I think that affected the coolness of QP2 special effects somewhat.

Hehe, just watched the video of ya Deeds, brave man for trying them indoors! I see and hear the glee of your inner Warmonger after the BANG! :lol:

They shouldn't be a problem, I can't see a single reason for these not reaching you provided they don't mark "flashbang" or "grenade" on the customs declaration forms. :smack:

It was quite awsome to try them indoors. I actually liked it, as you can see.....lol

Oh ya! They are super loud inside, hence the reason we try to avoid using them inside. It's not that they are dangerous due to projectiles, just the bang is harmful. And best part about them, aside from the effect, is they are dirt cheap to make.

I found this cool dummie grenade that has a safty pin and the spoon shoots off on impact.Heres the link http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...nu2=1183#17286.

Just so no one thinks I've abandoned the project, I'm still working on getting UK-style stuff here. Canada Day and the fireworks season kinda put that on the farthest burner.

I just placed an order for two "flashbangs" from www.milsimlabs.com.

I sent him an e-mail and he replied saying he hasn't had any problems with customs as he he ships them as a "toy cap device." Since they only cost $5 a peice, it's not really a big deal if they do get taken.

Anyways, I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

When are you expecting these "flashbangs" to arrive and what mail sevice does he use to ship them?

I'm hoping to get them within the week. He uses US Airmail I think.

I cant wait for the reveiw!!:D If they're good i thing ill buy a couple.

ghillie have you got them yet?

Gas Powered Grenade
 

um.... i am not sure if anyone has posted this before.... the thread is too long for me to read through the entire thing!

anyways.... redwolfairsoft has now put up a gas powered grenade for sale.

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...nu2=1276#20721

this grenade has actually been on sale in Hong Kong for a while now, i have seen them in stores since the beginning of summer. I am livin in Hong Kong right now in case u are wondering.

if this has been posted, please just ignore my post, thanks

Since RWA Isnt in Canada, they cant ship a grenade replica to Canada, it will be stopped by customs.

I just got the flashbang grenades today. Overall the build quality is very cheap, but $5 for a reusable grenade it's not bad. I had him ship them to me without any of the markings on it. The bang isn't too loud. The sound of the metal clip hitting the plastic is almost over powers the bang from the cap. It's also very light so it woud be safe for indoor

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i9...w/DSC00379.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i9...w/DSC00384.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i9...w/DSC00387.jpg