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Old February 26th, 2014, 10:33   #1
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Falcon brand precision inner barrel for 1911?

Anyone use this barrel? Thinking of getting it, although it comes with a hop up rubber, I'm not sure if it'll be any good, but it might be worth a shot before switching to a Firefly one. Which reminds me: the hop up should be a 'soft' type, right? Hard is for high fps guns, soft is for lower fps if I understood correctly.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 20:12   #2
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had them in my WE m4s and they worked pretty good for the price.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 21:19   #3
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I had one. Didn't like it. The surface finish was relatively rough compared to other brands, and I also saw some scratches inside the one I had. To me, that indicated a very soft metal that wasn't durable. Not something I want in my guns.

GREAT price, though... if that's all you care about, then they could work, but me personally, I would rather just stick with a stock Marui barrel, which are actually manufactured very well.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 23:06   #4
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I had one. Didn't like it. The surface finish was relatively rough compared to other brands, and I also saw some scratches inside the one I had. To me, that indicated a very soft metal that wasn't durable. Not something I want in my guns.

GREAT price, though... if that's all you care about, then they could work, but me personally, I would rather just stick with a stock Marui barrel, which are actually manufactured very well.
I don't have a marui barrel though lol. What kind of barrel would you suggest i put into it? I want a 6.03 ideally. I'm not sure if I want to go silencer or compensator. How do comp's get installed anyway?
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Old February 26th, 2014, 23:33   #5
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I don't have a marui barrel though lol. What kind of barrel would you suggest i put into it? I want a 6.03 ideally.
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I'm not sure if I want to go silencer or compensator. How do comp's get installed anyway?
Comps are typically attached to the outer barrel (in an ideal setup), but there are a few alternative setups that might attach to the slide, to the frame, or in airsoft, it can attach to an extended inner barrel as well.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 23:38   #6
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Comps are typically attached to the outer barrel (in an ideal setup), but there are a few alternative setups that might attach to the slide, to the frame, or in airsoft, it can attach to an extended inner barrel as well.
How do they compare with PDI palsonite 6.01 barrels?
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Old February 26th, 2014, 23:43   #7
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How do they compare with PDI palsonite 6.01 barrels?
The Nine Ball ones are manufactured to a better tolerance, have a higher polish, and a bit better accuracy.

The PDI Palsonite 01 has higher power, and has a much harder finish. It's less likely to scratch do to the Palsonite process.

Palsonite is to stainless steel as anodizing is to aluminum.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 23:44   #8
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Comps are typically attached to the outer barrel (in an ideal setup), but there are a few alternative setups that might attach to the slide, to the frame, or in airsoft, it can attach to an extended inner barrel as well.
To the outer barrel? How so? Is it an extended outer barrel, or does it come with the comp kit?
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Old February 27th, 2014, 00:34   #9
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The Nine Ball ones are manufactured to a better tolerance, have a higher polish, and a bit better accuracy.

The PDI Palsonite 01 has higher power, and has a much harder finish. It's less likely to scratch do to the Palsonite process.
How would the Tanio Koba hop-twist ones compare to Nineball/PDI, Brian?
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Old February 27th, 2014, 17:24   #10
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To the outer barrel? How so? Is it an extended outer barrel, or does it come with the comp kit?
Comp-ready outer barrels usually have some type of threading at the end of it, and may also have a secondary interfacing structure to secure the compensator to the desired orientation. This prevents it from twisting out of place. In a real gun, the compensator may be welded in place.

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How would the Tanio Koba hop-twist ones compare to Nineball/PDI, Brian?
For skirmish use, the Tanio Koba Twist barrels are still one of the best barrels you can get for <1Joule setups. The inner bore of these is around 6.04mm.
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Old February 27th, 2014, 17:50   #11
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Comp-ready outer barrels usually have some type of threading at the end of it, and may also have a secondary interfacing structure to secure the compensator to the desired orientation. This prevents it from twisting out of place. In a real gun, the compensator may be welded in place.
So I need an outer barrel with threading then, correct? Have any good ones on hand, or know of a good brand for it?
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Old February 27th, 2014, 18:50   #12
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So I need an outer barrel with threading then, correct? Have any good ones on hand, or know of a good brand for it?
I do have good ones on hand (ILLusion Kinetics brand), but they're paired with a matched slide and compensator set.

I can get just the barrel alone, but at this time, I won't be making any new orders for the next month or so due to a residential move.

Specifically, what 1911 do you have? You may run into a compatibility problem with your slide, depending on the brand.

The alternative, if you're willing to run a longer inner barrel through, is adapters that clamp on to the extended inner barrel. I think I have a few of these left in stock. It basically adds a 14mm threading to the gun, so you can use any standard compensator you can find onto it. The downside to this, is that it does add weight to the muzzle, and if you have a traditional tilting barrel, it can create cycling problems. I can only recommend this if you pair it with a fixed model outer barrel like the ILLusion Kinetics ones. You don't even need to run an inner barrel all the way through... you just need one that's barely long enough for the adapter to clamp on to.
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Old February 27th, 2014, 19:09   #13
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It's still my Army 1911, but I'm planning to start swapping the slide next month after my credit card flips, so I've got a lot to deal with on it. New slide, for one, new bbu, sights (still unsure of type and style), inner+outer barrel, and I'm thinking of using a compensator but I'm not sure how it'd look on the Shuey Custom slide. If it doesn't fit at all on my pistol then I'll have no choice but to get a new frame, but I really like how mine feels right now, so I'm really hoping the slide will fit without too much issue. I don't care if it's got a little wiggle room, but I will if it jams up on me or if it just bounces constantly... Otherwise, as long as the parts I want to buy are compatible with the Shuey Slide Custom, then I'm happy. I think for now I'll run it without a comp, just to simplify the whole thing a little more. At least until after I get the slide and see how it looks.

Nice thing is, all the parts I'm buying are going into the slide... so if the slide doesn't work on my current frame... I could always just put it onto another one that does fit. In theory, anyway. I want to stick with actual 1911 frames, not hi-capas, since I bought several magazines for it.
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Old February 27th, 2014, 20:38   #14
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There's an actual Shuey Custom compensated slide set available:

http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof..._hicapa_shueys
http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof..._hicapa_shueyb
http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof...hicapa_shuey2t

If you're thinking about doing a comp... do the proper set. Don't mix and match. I mean... you could, but then the way the compensator mates with the slide will just look like an afterthought, as a large seam will become present as the muzzle of standalone slides are beveled. Matched slide sets with compensators will have a flat cut to it to provide a seamless transition from the slide to the compensator and looks a hell of a lot cleaner.

Although, if you're looking to maintain the use of iron sights, then you don't really have any option, except to do the separate purchase of slide/comp/comp-barrel, because these compensated slide sets don't have a dovetail cutouts to accommodate front or rear iron sights. They're designed to be used with electronic dot sights, and the rear dovetail is replaced with a custom cut for a cocking handle.

Also, you don't really have much choice in terms of iron sight options... you can only get Hi-Capa 5.1 rear sights or..... Hi-Capa 5.1 rear sights. :P Nothing else is compatible. However, in that category, there are various aftermarket fixed "wedge" combat sights as well as adjustable sights. Some with fiber optics, some are just standard iron blades. I have a pile of options in hand.

You'll also need to change out to a Hi-Capa style blowback unit, as your original blowback unit won't fit a Hi-Capa slide. This will also mean a required change of your nozzle and floating valve assembly.

You will also likely need to change out to a full length recoil rod setup, which also means requiring a change of your hop up chamber...

Unfortunately, it's not so easy as just a simple slide swap with your particular platform.

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Old February 27th, 2014, 20:49   #15
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It's a bit of work, but not impossible to do a conversion to put a Hi-Capa slide on a 1911 frame:



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