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Old July 3rd, 2012, 17:00   #76
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If they are like those of the M14. They are amazing.

Tighten up the screw at the bottom and it won't leak anymore.

And I run mine dry.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 17:08   #77
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Thanks for the update on WE GBBRs.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 20:10   #78
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Is there any cleaning guides for OB PDW'S floating around out there? Is it more or less the same as cleaning the M4?
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 20:19   #79
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Yup...same principles, different shape.

Two things that guys over look are...stock pin screws and the small screws that hold the internal guide rails on. Clean, loctite, and check periodically
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 22:31   #80
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I just picked up my we open bolt m16, the nozzle broke after half a mag. Also the magazine came leaking badly out of the box.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 23:21   #81
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I just picked up my we open bolt m16, the nozzle broke after half a mag. Also the magazine came leaking badly out of the box.
Did you lube it up before firing? Regardless it a testament to WE's terrible stock internals that it couldn't even make it through a mag.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 09:03   #82
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The leaking mags are a POS...but quite easily fixable (takes me abour 20min to do up a half dozen).

Sorry to hear about your nozzle...what broke on it? Did it split, did the tip break, was it the feeding foot thing that picks up a BB? Did it break on a misfeed/double feed with a BB not making it into the chamber?

I have noticed that the WE rifles have "tightened up" a bit in tolerances...and I think it's a huge mistake. These things work best when there's a bit of slop to let the parts move freely. It's like a stock pistol vs. a CNC super tuned pistol...the really tight setups will perform better, but the fine tuning is just not practical on a mass scale.

With these things I'd take one with a bit of slop over a really tight fit anyday.

On a personal rant...I'm sick and f*cking tired of fixing/tweaking/tuning "upgraded" RATech parts. What a PITA. They're pretty, they're solid...but they're not to specs that f*cking work well in most setups. And I really dislike trying to fix something that someone else has already "fixed".
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Old July 4th, 2012, 12:22   #83
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To add to the discourse.

My WE came as a CB but the first thing I did was change it to OB.

After I did that I lubed it up with grease and oil per the cleaning guide on here.

Then after that I test fired it.

On the mags I did have to re-seal it looks like the person who assembled them just licked the rectangular gasket to keep it in place while the back plate went on. If they'd just used a bit of sealant when the built the mags they'd still be running fine.

I have not changed the hopup rubber yet, still looking for the right spot with one and some of the other parts I need to consolidate on an order. I also made a V2 hopup adjuster that I'll shoot some details of on the weekend.This one works without cracking the receivers apart.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 12:30   #84
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On the mags I did have to re-seal it looks like the person who assembled them just licked the rectangular gasket to keep it in place while the back plate went on. If they'd just used a bit of sealant when the built the mags they'd still be running fine.
they use a low quality super glue. they also do not pay attention during the seal and back plate install which typically allows the seal to shift.

if a brand new seal is properly glued in place, the mag shouldn't leak. just about everyone that I opened and re-sealed, I noticed that the seal was either pinched or shifted.

they could also have designed it with a seal that was a little thicker and softer.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 13:24   #85
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Last I heard from Henry is that he doesn't even bother with the rubber seal anymore and just uses gasket maker. I still use the rubber seal + gasket maker...but I've got one mag where the rubber seal is torn (some numbnut pinched it) so I'll try that when I get around to it.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 13:58   #86
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I tried a mag without rubber seal and it leaked like MOFO. But then I am using gray gasket instead of blue Henry uses, not sure if it makes any difference...
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Old July 4th, 2012, 14:25   #87
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I like having the softer rubber seal combined with liquid gasket between the 2 hard pieces of metal as a belt and suspenders setup. Any kind of casting flaw in the mag and the liquid along might not be able to cope.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 22:55   #88
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Question..

Perhaps my speed reading fails me, but I could swear someone said they suggest running their guns on plain propane without silicone. I could see that helping consistency w/ respect to the hop up but would it not increase wear?
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Old July 4th, 2012, 22:56   #89
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What I meant was to run the mags dry.

Oil/grease the rest of the gun, but by having no oil in your mags, you'll have no/less oil in your barrel/hop-up.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 22:57   #90
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What I meant was to run the mags dry.

Oil/grease the rest of the gun, but by having no oil in your mags, you'll have no/less oil in your barrel/hop-up.
I run my mags dry, the oil on the orings is all thats in there, just means from time to time i have to open them up and relube the oring. no big deal for me anyways cus its a good idea to clean the sand and crap out of mags every so often anyways.
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